[QUOTE=noreason88]He does know theory because someone who knows theory can look at his basslines and determine it. The two tabs I looked at (still waiting and hell song) both use theory. And theory is a really good thing to learn because it makes you a musician, not a bass player. Bass players need to know theory, I havn't looked in bass forums since I play guitar but I'm positive they would say that theory is somthing you need to know. Also, its dumb to walk around saying that you write good stuff because someone will listen to your songs and some might say that there shiit.[/QUOTE]

there's always someone who won't like something somone else writes, but I actually do write really cool stuff, and the bassline to Still Waiting is nothing special and the one to Hell song is all eigth notes of the same note eight times in a row except a random not every now and then, dude, seriously, he writes good stuff, but I doubt he ever learned theory

[QUOTE=TomDelonge18]wat da fux up guys[/QUOTE]

not too much man, you haven't been in here in forever, what's the deal?

[QUOTE=TheBassicBassist]there's always someone who won't like something somone else writes, but I actually do write really cool stuff, and the bassline to Still Waiting is nothing special and the one to Hell song is all eigth notes of the same note eight times in a row except a random not every now and then, dude, seriously, he writes good stuff, but I doubt he ever learned theory[/QUOTE]

I really think he does know theory, but if both of us cared enough we could look into it more, but we can just leave it.

i doubt he knows theory. he may know some but not alot.

He will know enough.

Most bands, who can make decent songs and work together well, do.

I just have trouble believing that he actually knows very much if any, he can't know too much, guys that know alot about theory move on to be like Victor Wooten and so forth

Not if they like doing what they do.

To break down the talent level in Sum 41....
Steve: Amazing, great rock drummer.
Dave: Same thing but guitar
Deryck: Good guitarist, but not great.
Cone: Either he can play like a 12 year old who has played for 3 months or he only plays like that when he's being recorded.

I agree with Silvermedal mafia, but Cone deserves a bit more than that ;)

[QUOTE=Silvermedalmafia]To break down the talent level in Sum 41....
Steve: Amazing, great rock drummer.
Dave: Same thing but guitar
Deryck: Good guitarist, but not great.
Cone: Either he can play like a 12 year old who has played for 3 months or he only plays like that when he's being recorded.[/QUOTE]

wow, you got Dave and Steve right, obviously you guys aren't even trying to listen to what cone does, listen to what he did for Mr. Amsterdam, he has talent, he just does what most bassists do, he plays the guitar part an octave lower, but he's a good writer and he's really talented

and Deryck has gotten tons better since his vocal chords ruptured, it sounds weird but it's true, I can't wait to hear his voice for the next album

[QUOTE=noreason88]I really think he does know theory, but if both of us cared enough we could look into it more, but we can just leave it.[/QUOTE]

In Total Guitar the band admitted to not know any theory. For example they could not identify a pentatonic scale or notes on the fretboard.

They play by ear and by experience of working out how to get a good sound mainly.

[QUOTE=deathscreamingsheep]In Total Guitar the band admitted to not know any theory. For example they could not identify a pentatonic scale or notes on the fretboard.

They play by ear and by experience of working out how to get a good sound mainly.[/QUOTE]

thank you for that information, it is most appreciated :D

dave knows his theory. i know that much. i doubt cone knows much more than basic scales though. most of what he plays is root notes.

is bass not all root notes? as in on guitar youre using two fingers but the root note is the one played on the lowest of the strings played and commonly played with the index finger


edit- this is bassist for a band, im on my friend's PC and hes signed on

if a bassist is playing root notes, it means he's just playing the root of what the guitarist is playing. it's boring and basically pointless.

[QUOTE=himynameistweek]if a bassist is playing root notes, it means he's just playing the root of what the guitarist is playing. it's boring and basically pointless.[/QUOTE]
It is nowhere near pointless.
It makes the sound a lot more "full", and helps to keep rythm when the guitarist does anything different.

Guitar sounds so hollow without the bass backing it up.

bass isn't all root notes, it can be very different, it can do chords and power chords and all of that crap and it can also be the lead if your good, but it's not pointless to ANY extent

[QUOTE=himynameistweek]if a bassist is playing root notes, it means he's just playing the root of what the guitarist is playing. it's boring and basically pointless.[/QUOTE]
yea thats what i meant, the root of the guitar music

but its not pointless at all

The point I was trying to make about Cone was that all he does it root notes, and it bores the living sh*t out of me. Christ, just once he should do a little something different.

this band is awful...

after hearing albums such as all killer no filler

i dont think it is even possible to take an album like chuck seriously

they are definentily not hard asses

[QUOTE=Silvermedalmafia]The point I was trying to make about Cone was that all he does it root notes, and it bores the living sh*t out of me. Christ, just once he should do a little something different.[/QUOTE]


it's called pop punk lol dont expect much from the bassist.

[QUOTE=Original Gangsta!]this band is awful...

after hearing albums such as all killer no filler

i dont think it is even possible to take an album like chuck seriously

they are definentily not hard asses[/QUOTE]

Oic.

you're all misunderstanding what i'm saying. i didn't say bass is all root notes, and i didn't say bass is pointless. i said bass is pointless if the bassist is only playing root notes. basically, i'm saying playing nothing but root notes is pointless.

if so then why did they ever invent a bass or play what they play??

its just like the bass part of what the guitars playing but with some differences

im tired of you guys sayin all this **** about bass being sucky or something without even backing it up

seriously, if root note bass is so pointless, why do they even have it in the song?

[QUOTE=Original Gangsta!]this band is awful...

after hearing albums such as all killer no filler

i dont think it is even possible to take an album like chuck seriously

they are definentily not hard asses[/QUOTE]
shutup n00b


these guys are ****in awesome


and obviously youre not a hardass.... sounds like youre tryin to be one though

[QUOTE=Silvermedalmafia]The point I was trying to make about Cone was that all he does it root notes, and it bores the living sh*t out of me. Christ, just once he should do a little something different.[/QUOTE]

you should listen just a little bit closer to songs like Welcome to Hell, Mr. Amsterdam, Pieces and other good stuff

[QUOTE=Original Gangsta!]this band is awful...

after hearing albums such as all killer no filler

i dont think it is even possible to take an album like chuck seriously

they are definentily not hard asses[/QUOTE]

okay, and would you consider yourself to be a harda[size=2]ss[/size], because your a pretty stubborn little b[size=2]itch[/size]

how can you say the bass is pointless. it makes the whole song sound more full.

Yes I believe Welcome To Hell had quite a nice bass solo

I also noticed some nice bass in the songs on HHOP....