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magicbus 12-23-2004 12:27 AM

Yea DSOTM isn't all about Syd. Brain Damage could be (I never heard it was, but I'll take your word for it), but the rest of the album is about life and death and aging and stuff.

gmoneyguy 12-23-2004 12:28 AM

Roger says it on the DSOTM DVD.

Kingofdudes 12-23-2004 12:38 AM

[QUOTE=guitrguy]Roger says it on the DSOTM DVD.[/QUOTE]

It may have been inspired by him, but it isnt 100% about him.

gmoneyguy 12-23-2004 12:39 AM

[QUOTE=Gilmour]It may have been inspired by him, but it isnt 100% about him.[/QUOTE]
we'll see tomorrow.

Kingofdudes 12-23-2004 12:40 AM

[QUOTE=guitrguy]we'll see tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

Is it that serious? You act like the world is gonna end if it isnt exactly about Syd.

gmoneyguy 12-23-2004 12:41 AM

[QUOTE=Gilmour]Is it that serious? You act like the world is gonna end if it isnt exactly about Syd.[/QUOTE]
I was mostly joking, but whatever.

thelizardkingcc 12-23-2004 04:14 AM

i dont have to redo the entire paper, i just have to incorporate "philosophy" into it, meaning i have to use terms we talked about in class, and quotes and citations, instead of what i did which was just a lyrical analysis. ahh well, id better get crackin its 5 14 am.

P.S. does anyone else think that Obscured by Clouds is Floyd's most underrated album. The more I listen to it, the more I like it.

Lateralias 12-23-2004 11:11 AM

[QUOTE=thelizardkingcc]i dont have to redo the entire paper, i just have to incorporate "philosophy" into it, meaning i have to use terms we talked about in class, and quotes and citations, instead of what i did which was just a lyrical analysis. ahh well, id better get crackin its 5 14 am.

P.S. does anyone else think that Obscured by Clouds is Floyd's most underrated album. The more I listen to it, the more I like it.[/QUOTE]

Do you have the Dark Side DVD? If so, that could be a major help to you...

Obscured by Clouds is a good PF album, although I just got it and haven't listened through it more than twice... I should listen to it more.

hypocracy hater 12-23-2004 11:46 AM

Isn't the wall partly about Syd aswell

Lateralias 12-23-2004 11:48 AM

[QUOTE=hypocracy hater]Isn't the wall partly about Syd aswell[/QUOTE]

Nah I doubt it, some songs might have been inspired by him, but The Wall is a concept album about a kid/man named Pink.

BludgeonySteve 12-23-2004 11:48 AM

[QUOTE=hypocracy hater]Isn't the wall partly about Syd aswell[/QUOTE]

Yes, it's like 70% Rodger and 30% syd or something.

hypocracy hater 12-23-2004 11:48 AM

[QUOTE=Lateralias]Nah I doubt it, some songs might have been inspired by him, but The Wall is a concept album about a kid/man named Pink.[/QUOTE]

Syd is the original pink.

BludgeonySteve 12-23-2004 11:48 AM

[QUOTE=Lateralias]Nah I doubt it, some songs might have been inspired by him, but The Wall is a concept album about a kid/man named Pink.[/QUOTE]

Pink is made up of part Rodger and Part Syd.

hypocracy hater 12-23-2004 11:52 AM

Two things

1. Is Syd's solo stuff allowed in this thread

2. I have got Floyd and Zep singing stairway together, weird

Lateralias 12-23-2004 11:55 AM

Syd as well? I didn't know about that... where have you heard that? Cause I know Pink's father died in a war, and in reality, that was what happened to Rodger, so i can see a relation there, maybe the insanity side of Pink was a relation to Syd I'm guessing...

hypocracy hater 12-23-2004 11:57 AM

[QUOTE=Lateralias]Syd as well? I didn't know about that... where have you heard that? Cause I know Pink's father died in a war, and in reality, that was what happened to Rodger, so i can see a relation there, maybe the insanity side of Pink was a relation to Syd I'm guessing...[/QUOTE]

Rogers dad died in WWII tiger broke free ring any bells

[url]www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes[/url]

click on comfortably numb and then video. :D

Lateralias 12-23-2004 11:59 AM

[QUOTE=hypocracy hater]Rogers dad died in WWII tiger broke free ring any bells

[url]www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/echoes[/url]

click on comfortably numb and then video. :D[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I knew When The Tigers Broke Free was about Rodger's father... good song... very atmospheric.

Kingofdudes 12-23-2004 12:44 PM

The Wall is pretty much 100% about Roger, that is the way he liked it.

DeusExMachina 12-23-2004 05:20 PM

No. The character "Pink" is a fusion of Syd and Roger. Also, the song WYWH isn't about Syd. It applies to him, sure, but its not actually about him. I'm in a rush, but I'll clarify later.

Riva 12-23-2004 05:45 PM

Pink is almost all Roger, and Roger's interpretation of Syd's mindscape. Hence, Roger can be considered the main character "Pink" seeing as although it is somewhat based on Syd, it is based on Roger's egocentric view of Syd.

DeusExMachina 12-23-2004 05:48 PM

HeavyRiva, thanks for putting it in much clearer (and nicer) words than me. Sorry everyone, didn't mean to be an *** about it, I was just kind of rushed.

IAJP 12-23-2004 05:51 PM

[QUOTE=Lateralias]Yeah, I knew When The Tigers Broke Free was about Rodger's father... good song... very atmospheric.[/QUOTE]
I don't really like "When the tigers broke free"
It doesn't stand up to their better work very well.

Lateralias 12-23-2004 05:54 PM

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]I don't really like "When the tigers broke free"
It doesn't stand up to their better work very well.[/QUOTE]

Well I don't think it was intended to be a "Floyd Masterpeice", just a song with Roger expressing his memories of his father, more of a personal thing, but thats why I find it so good.

funk_rock_jazz_drummer 12-23-2004 05:56 PM

what are your thoughts about "the final cut"

I used to hate it, but i listened to it thoroughly and now im beggining to like it a lot more now.

Lateralias 12-23-2004 05:57 PM

[QUOTE=funk_rock_jazz_drummer]what are your thoughts about "the final cut"

I used to hate it, but i listened to it thoroughly and now im beggining to like it a lot more now.[/QUOTE]

You can easily notice the big difference with the absence of Roger's songwriting on that album, but it has some good points.. Fletcher Memorial Home is a good song.

DeusExMachina 12-23-2004 05:58 PM

I've said it before, I'll say it again: The Final Cut is teh lose.

It's a good album if you throw it in the general pool of albums, but... All other Pink Floyd Albums > The Final Cut.

funk_rock_jazz_drummer 12-23-2004 06:00 PM

[QUOTE=Lateralias]You can easily notice the big difference with the absence of Roger's songwriting on that album, but it has some good points.. Fletcher Memorial Home is a good song.[/QUOTE]


yeah, its definatly more of a instrumental album then a lyric album.

funk_rock_jazz_drummer 12-23-2004 06:01 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I've said it before, I'll say it again: The Final Cut is teh lose.

It's a good album if you throw it in the general pool of albums, but... All other Pink Floyd Albums > The Final Cut.[/QUOTE]


well yeah. no ones gonna say that final cut is better then DSOTM or The Wall


/edit: 300th post! haha 700 more to go

Lateralias 12-23-2004 06:03 PM

Oh shoot, made an error.... I was thinking of Momentary Lapse of Reason... Final Cut is the last PF album with Roger in it... wait, is that the one with Fletcher Memorial Home on it? If so, then I didn't care for that album much, just the song I just mentioned.

DeusExMachina 12-23-2004 06:11 PM

I really think The Final Cut is a lyrical album, not a musical album. Lyrically, it's arguably the most mature thing to date by Waters. However, musically, it's very subpar.


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