[QUOTE=-Obscurity-]Yes, that is one thing we talked about. Also, how hardcore is now leaking into the mainstream ie. Killswitch Engage, Shadowsfall, etc.[/QUOTE]
Glad you recognize that Shadows Fall are not thrash.

Please, don't call it hardcore, it's metalcore.

Hardcore is punk.

Genre discussions make me blah.

So, all of a sudden I have a TV in my room. :eek:

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Jackson DKMG. Beautiful guitars.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. My personal preferance would be The Jackson over anything, but that's just. Playing them and deciding which one you like best is the best tactic I think.

One thing to be wary of is that the Jackson has a floating trem. Evil, evil things they are.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]So, all of a sudden I have a TV in my room. :eek:[/QUOTE]

sweet dude, did it just magically appear :lol:

So, my mom goes to college....

[QUOTE=Ripper22]Genre discussions make me blah.[/QUOTE]

Also genre descriptions tend to vary geographically. I saw Killswitch Engage on Fuse refer to themselves and the current Massachusetts scene as hardcore.

[QUOTE=Animosity_62]sweet dude, did it just magically appear :lol:[/QUOTE]

My mom was like : "Oh yeah, I brought you a TV"


:confused:

Plus the Jackson comes with EMG's, and a floyd tremilo, making it the best value as well.

[QUOTE=-Obscurity-]Also genre descriptions tend to vary geographically. I saw Killswitch Engage on Fuse refer to themselves and the current Massachusetts scene as hardcore.[/QUOTE]

Pfft, bands, they usually know the least about genres.

Bands don't know anything about music. I think we know a little bit more than they do.

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Plus the Jackson comes with EMG's, and a floyd tremilo, making it the best value as well.[/QUOTE]

Seriously be warned, floating trems can be [I][B]the[/I][/B] most annoying things. Ever.

[QUOTE=lunch998]Bands don't know anything about music. I think we know a little bit more than they do.[/QUOTE]

Ha ha, we should show them how it's done. :D

Ok, ill try it out some more then. Whats the difference between a floating and a fixed?

[QUOTE=munky_magik]Seriously be warned, floating trems can be [I][B]the[/I][/B] most annoying things. Ever.[/QUOTE] It depends. My JS100 has one, but it's an innovative design that makes changing strings way less of a pain. It's just not intonated properly at the moment, and there's an extreme shortage of guitar techs around me in Connecticut, despite the presence of the Guitar Center nearby: once I find one, that guitar will be SO much fun to play. Blues licks are indeed problematic though. Unison bends are impossible.

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Ok, ill try it out some more then. Whats the difference between a floating and a fixed?[/QUOTE]

A floating trem has cavity in the body like [url=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/atouchofgenius/DSCF0014.jpg]this[/url] so that you can manipultae the bar up and down. and fixed trem doesn't have the cavity so it can only be mainpulated one way.
A floating trems tuning, however, relies upon the tension of all the strings so it is a pain in the a[color=white]s[/color] to set up.

[QUOTE=Ripper22]It depends. My JS100 has one, but it's an innovative design that makes changing strings way less of a pain. It's just not intonated properly at the moment, and there's an extreme shortage of guitar techs around me in Connecticut, despite the presence of the Guitar Center nearby: once I find one, that guitar will be SO much fun to play. Blues licks are indeed problematic though. Unison bends are impossible.[/QUOTE]

I love floyd roses, but setting them up is possibly the most painful experience on the planet.

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Ok, ill try it out some more then. Whats the difference between a floating and a fixed?[/QUOTE]

Floating means you can pull up on the bar to raise the pitch of the notes in addition to lowering it. Floyd Rose setups, in addition, are almost universally reviled throughout the guitar community due to the near impossibility of changing strings and keeping the bar setup in tune. My floating trem is a much better design than the Floyd Rose. This is why Jacksons, who excusively liscense Floyd Rose bars, are worse in my mind than, say, Ibanez, who make their own floating locking tremolos. Floating trems are also very sensitive to pressure on the bar or the bridge, and the most annoying thing is a near-impossibility to play in-tune double-stop or unison-bend blues licks: since the bridge is so sensitively set up, the bridge depresses when you bend notes. If you're playing an unbent note at the same time, as in:

B--15------
G--14b16--

your D note on the B string will sound out of tune due to the bridge depressing. But it's a minor and, in-concert at least, barely noticeable problem. Locking bars are very versatile and great for tricks. The trick as the purchaser is finding a bar that won't leave you pulling your hair out.

Oh, and change strings one at a time with floating bars to keep the tension stable. Don't break strings in concert. That's all.

Well ill have to look into that.

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I like my Floyd Rose... :upset:

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[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]I like my Floyd Rose... :upset:[/QUOTE]

Heh, I like my Floyd Roses. I just [I]hate[/I] having to set them up :(

[QUOTE=munky_magik]Heh, I like my Floyd Roses. I just [I]hate[/I] having to set them up :([/QUOTE]
Meh, it's really easy for me...

So far only one person has commented on my status. I think most of the idiot n00bs don't understand it's significance. I know they'd all blow up if they knew what it was.

Crap, I want to take off my signature that shows on my profile, but vBulletin won't let me. vbulletins a fag lets burn his hou'se lolo

[QUOTE=munky_magik]Heh, I like my Floyd Roses. I just [I]hate[/I] having to set them up :([/QUOTE]

Yeah they are useful staying in tune and allow for dive bombs etc., but they make me dread changing strings or making adjustments.

Why are they so hard to change strings on?

/me understands why the changing of my strings has been so difficult :eek:

ban vbulletin plz super

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Why are they so hard to change strings on?[/QUOTE]

The bridge is kept level and the guitar in tuen by the tension of the other strings. Once you take a string off, the tension it was putting on the bridge is released and so it compensates thus messing up your tuning.

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Why are they so hard to change strings on?[/QUOTE]

Well it isn't that bad, being mainly a drummer i'm just lazy when it comes to guitar stuff :) You just have to get the strings through the tremolo and take off the locking nut to get them under. You often have to reset your intonation as well. I have seen some newer design that look much better and easier to work with than the ones from even a few years ago.

[QUOTE=LordDargon]So far only one person has commented on my status. I think most of the idiot n00bs don't understand it's significance. I know they'd all blow up if they knew what it was.

Crap, I want to take off my signature that shows on my profile, but vBulletin won't let me. vbulletins a fag lets burn his hou'se lolo[/QUOTE]

I understand your status. And otherwise, I would blow up, but since I realize you're only doing it to see how much controversy you can stir up in the first place, I won't indulge you.

EDIT: Other than to say you're a terrible terrible person.

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Why are they so hard to change strings on?[/QUOTE]

As I said, floating bars or locking bars are both very sensitive, and they require the tension of ALL the strings tuned to pitch in order to stay level. Break a string, and the bridge tilts back because a lot of tension was released by that string. This causes the five remaining strings to be pulled back tighter by the bridge, raising the pitch, and thus messing up your tuning. Which is why I said never break a string in concert if you don't have a guitar tech handy.

Ok. Ill have to try it out lots then.

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Ok. Ill have to try it out lots then.[/QUOTE]

Good idea, remember that some kinds are alot easier to work with than others.

[QUOTE=LordDargon]ban vbulletin plz super[/QUOTE]

I could edit your signature.

[QUOTE=-Obscurity-]Good idea, remember that some kinds are alot easier to work with than others.[/QUOTE]

yea, and some are just generally better.

Original Floyd Rose > licensed Floyd Rose. I'm not sure where the Pro Edge II or anything else fits into this equation though.

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