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Mr Herb 07-12-2005 09:38 PM

[QUOTE=MuDvAyNe3B]Maybe Justin woud do something with his former band Peach, which i think are(or maybe alreday have) re-releasing thier old album. I think i would be more interested in what he does after Tool if this is the last album.[/QUOTE]


Or maybe hell just disspear. . .


on a dream scenario hed join apc :D

TheSubtleArts 07-12-2005 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=ThirteenthStep]i highly doubt that. with their outlooks on life, they have much more than enough money to live. think about it[/QUOTE]

I know, what i said would probably apply to most other artists, but how much do we really know about them and their lifestyles except for their general lifestlyes. money may be a somewhat important issue in not supporting themselves but maybe family, children, ect...
(i only know for sure that Maynard has a son, i dont know about anyone else in the band).

Mr Herb 07-12-2005 09:41 PM

maynard has apc and makes movies. . hes got money covered

Moses 07-12-2005 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=Dude3]Rap dosen't bother me when it has good lyrics, or at least something better than Ludacris' lyrics. Most rap today is just crap. I really can't think of many talented rap artists that are are also very successful.

Kanye West is good. I wouldn't listen to him, but I definately respect him.[/QUOTE]
I love Ludacris. :upset:

But really most of the rap I listen to is more poetic like Nas, Talib Kweli, and De La Soul.

ThePatient 07-12-2005 09:59 PM

I could see this being their last album, though I hope its not. Maynard seems to be the type of guy who would want to go off leaving us wanting more (I say Maynard because he's the only one I ever hear from), giving the band that "what could've been" type of aura. As much as I love the band, I really cannot stand the mysterious shadow they try to throw over themselves. I can totally understand when you hear people say that the pretentiousness of the band turns them off.

And about age, all the Members of Rush are 52 and they don't show any signs of aging when they play, so I don't think it'd be a real issue.

Moses 07-12-2005 10:05 PM

[QUOTE=ThePatient]I could see this being their last album, though I hope its not. Maynard seems to be the type of guy who would want to go off leaving us wanting more (I say Maynard because he's the only one I ever hear from), giving the band that "what could've been" type of aura. As much as I love the band, I really cannot stand the mysterious shadow they try to throw over themselves. I can totally understand when you hear people say that the pretentiousness of the band turns them off.

And about age, all the Members of Rush are 52 and they don't show any signs of aging when they play, so I don't think it'd be a real issue.[/QUOTE]
When there's a band as interesting as Tool, ever, there is a huge deal of pretentiousness. I can't see any other band putting as much effort into the level of interest every single album and song like Tool has. Tool has accomplished what every band dreams, where the depth is interesting enough for one fan to be completely indulgded into the band. It's almost like they are more than a band, and alot of people veiw them this way.

Mr Herb 07-12-2005 10:09 PM

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho] Tool has accomplished what every band dreams, where the depth is interesting enough for one fan to be completely indulgded into the band. It's almost like they are more than a band, and alot of people veiw them this way.[/QUOTE]


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lol.

thats reall really true dude.

They dont have to relly on image or realising something often to keep people interested

ThePatient 07-12-2005 10:11 PM

I know, and I try to draw the line there. I can't view a band as anything more than a band. That's why I never dive into the writer's meaning of the lyrics or anything, and stick with the way the songs make me feel.

Mr Herb 07-12-2005 10:17 PM

hmmm. Some songs make me feel certain ways msot of the time. But there are thoose times when they dont make me feel anything. And i wonder why. Does that happen to you?

ThePatient 07-12-2005 10:25 PM

Yeah sort of. I listen to H., Push!t, and 4degrees before I go to the doctor because they tend to mellow me out and straighten my head, if that makes any sense.

Mr Herb 07-12-2005 10:31 PM

lol right you have that thingy. thats gotta suck.



I just had an emotional encouter with the girl I like. Didnt go well. I d normally id put the patient on real loud but since its late Ill put some radiohead wich. . .I can enjoy quietly:(

ThePatient 07-12-2005 10:40 PM

Actually, I just went today and the doctor said I'm cleared to get the colostomy reversed either August 3rd or 8th. So I guess my superstitiousness finally paid off (I had been listening to those same songs every other tuesday for almost 2 years). So as long as I can drive again by when my classes start on September 6th, I'm good to go.

Mr Herb 07-12-2005 10:49 PM

Thats good to know. I may go in for some cancer screaning soon. It probably wont be anything. . .I hope. I wonder what Ill listen to if I get cancer or ****. . .the patient probably

YouGottaBeCrazy 07-12-2005 10:52 PM

[QUOTE=ThePatient]

And about age, all the Members of Rush are 52 and they don't show any signs of aging when they play, so I don't think it'd be a real issue.[/QUOTE]

Good point. Rush are still excellent in concert. Geddy may not have the exact same voice as he used to, but it's pretty close.

ThePatient 07-12-2005 10:55 PM

[QUOTE=herbtones]Thats good to know. I may go in for some cancer screaning soon. It probably wont be anything. . .I hope. I wonder what Ill listen to if I get cancer or ****. . .the patient probably[/QUOTE]
Is it just because you hit a certain age and they want you to be checked for prostate cancer?

I know a guy who saw Rush in concert a couple off years ago and said the only noticable difference was that his voice didn't quite hit all the originally high notes.

Mr Herb 07-12-2005 11:00 PM

[QUOTE=ThePatient]Is it just because you hit a certain age and they want you to be checked for prostate cancer?

IQUOTE] No am just 16. Thats what scares me. They wanna chek my testicles lol. not good :(

ThePatient 07-12-2005 11:02 PM

Oooooooooh, don't worry about it. They did that to me a few months ago when I had two kidney stones within a month. Unless you're actaully feeling sick or run down, you should be ok. Did you ask for the appointment, or was it just that time of the year?

Mr Herb 07-12-2005 11:07 PM

Asked for appointment.

Dude i feel pain down there every now and then. . .must be something wrong. . .

YouGottaBeCrazy 07-12-2005 11:11 PM

[QUOTE=ThePatient]

I know a guy who saw Rush in concert a couple off years ago and said the only noticable difference was that his voice didn't quite hit all the originally high notes.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's pretty much the only difference in his voice. Some of their older songs that required a bit higher notes don't sound exact but still very good when played in concert now. I figure, Maynard seems like a smart guy, and probably does all that new age crap, so he probably takes good care of his voice, and personally, I don't think he has that big of a range, a couple octaves, and so it doesn't seem like his voice would be the type to go once he reaches his 40s, unlike for example Chris Cornell, who as you can tell by Audioslave's two albums, still has a pretty good voice, but it's nothing like the Soundgarden days. I think Maynard will have the same voice for the next 5-10 years. This is why I think they probably have 1 more album in them after the one they are hopefully releasing soon.

ThePatient 07-12-2005 11:12 PM

Oh, well you can do a check on yourself too, if that'd give you a little piece of mind before you go. Have you actually felt anything odd down there?

Mr Herb 07-12-2005 11:13 PM

Yes lol. . . there is a small lump. its not hard or anything its more like if a tube or something is out of place. . .its like a tube thats bended. sucks:(

Nate22 07-12-2005 11:21 PM

Anybody here have Salival? I think I'm going to get it but I was just wondering if you guys think it's worth it.

Magicaltroll 07-12-2005 11:24 PM

[QUOTE=herbtones]lol right you have that thingy. thats gotta suck.



I just had an emotional encouter with the girl I like. Didnt go well. I d normally id put the patient on real loud but since its late Ill put some radiohead wich. . .I can enjoy quietly:([/QUOTE]
What happened?

Expresso 07-12-2005 11:29 PM

So a mixed bag of stars...

Letmypeople... have you ever heard taleb kweli with YoungBlood Brass Band? and yeah I'm a Kanye fan. Atmosphere too.

/back on topic
A while back I heard some stuff about Tool's record deal... Relevant????

[quote] C15. What's this lawsuit I heard about?

Which one?

In late 1997, Volcano Records filed suit against Tool, claiming the band had violated their contract by seeking / entertaining offers from other labels. Tool filed suit against Volcano, saying that the label had failed to exercise a renewal option in their contract, and so they were free to leave. This ugly deadlock lasted for over a year, when finally, at the last minute, both parties agreed to terms (including a three-record deal), rather than going to court. The band didn't work on much new material during this period, not wanting it to wind up in the hands of the wrong label. Luckily, it all worked out.

However, in 2000, the band fired manager Ted Gardner (runs Larrikin Management, and used to manage Jane's Addiction). He filed suit against the band, essentially claiming they owe him money. At present, no information is available about the resolution of that dispute. [/quote]

According to this, Tool signed a 3 record deal before Salival and Lateralus, meaning they are only obliged to do 1 more.

ThePatient 07-12-2005 11:30 PM

[QUOTE=herbtones]Yes lol. . . there is a small lump. its not hard or anything its more like if a tube or something is out of place. . .its like a tube thats bended. sucks:([/QUOTE]
Oh, that does suck. Well, good luck whenever you get that checked out.

And about Salival, just get it off of the internet. Chances are you're going to pay a ton of money for it, and I don't think its really worth the $50+ you're going to have to dish out.

Magicaltroll 07-12-2005 11:32 PM

[QUOTE=Expresso]So a mixed bag of stars...

Letmypeople... have you ever heard taleb kweli with YoungBlood Brass Band? and yeah I'm a Kanye fan. Atmosphere too.

/back on topic
A while back I heard some stuff about Tool's record deal... Relevant????



According to this, Tool signed a 3 record deal before Salival and Lateralus, meaning they are only obliged to do 1 more.[/QUOTE]
Well, I guess it comes down to whether or not they really wanna keep going with this.

Dude3 07-12-2005 11:33 PM

[QUOTE=herbtones]Yes lol. . . there is a small lump. its not hard or anything its more like if a tube or something is out of place. . .its like a tube thats bended. sucks:([/QUOTE]
Yeah, you have to remember this, "Hey kids feel your balls, so you don't get cancer."

Magicaltroll 07-12-2005 11:37 PM

Tom Green is awesome.

Expresso 07-12-2005 11:44 PM

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]Well, I guess it comes down to whether or not they really wanna keep going with this.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. It's unfortunate that the circumstances make it an easy stopping point. It might even depend on their new album, how it is received. For now, we can count on refracteroid or bilboran or whatever the hell you want to call it.

Magicaltroll 07-12-2005 11:47 PM

:lol:
They made those names up... Right?


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