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crag 03-06-2006 12:51 PM

TBH, i don't really mind that the IMBB is closing, it's not the end of the world. Also if people really wish to talk about Maiden they can just join some other forum (the unofficial IMBB or here for example). Also in regard to the DVD and its problems, mine works perfectly and from what i've heard they're correcting the problem anyway.

Some people need to just calm down and quit being little pricks.

evilalex! 03-06-2006 12:57 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]And they think that Maiden would just take it off the shelves like that?
This isn't some faceless band, it's Iron Maiden, They prove how much they care about the fans all the time. If Maiden were all about money, they would have jacked it in a long long time ago.

I'd like to know why you think the way you do about DOD...I wouldn't count it as my favourite Maiden release, that would go to Piece of mind, with X-Factor a close second, but Paschendale alone is worth the album. I have the CD of DOTR, and the live versions of Paschendale (Anthem for Doomed youth++) Dance of death and Journeyman, all make the transition from the new album, to the live environment very very well, as they did when I saw them be magnificent on the DOD tour.

Welcome to the forums, by the way.[/QUOTE]

Well there has been no official statement as to why they have taken it off the shelves, and what they are actually doing about it. And how many "Greatest Hits" and live albums have we had other the years? We all love the band but there are a too many re-releases in my opinion.
I agree there are some very good songs on DoD, Paschendale is a classic, and Rainmaker is one of the modern greats. But the album lacks quality in sound, the drums sound awful and the bass is hardly present.
I saw the band on the DoD Tour and they were amazing, very tight and they always put on a great gig, but Bruce sounds awful on DOTR and the solos in some of the older songs sound half-hearted

Lord Abortion 03-06-2006 01:10 PM

I believe it may still take a while for Kevin Shirley to become an effective producer for the band, I don't hear the problems you hear, but maybe that's just me. Martin Birch produced for Maiden for years, and knew the band inside out, it may take a while for Caveman to get to that level of attunement with the band, and that could account.
However, I half-agree about the best of situation, but I can only count two, recently (discounting BOTB) Edward the Great and the American Greatest hits thing, which never get released over here. I dislike ETG, because it's mostly singles, and I don't think that represents Maiden at their best. But that was the album that got me into Maiden, and I should be thankful for that, I'm sure other people would say the same. Live albums aren't any sort of problem for me, the more Different versions of Maiden songs and Rare live versions of seldom-played tracks I have, the better, Lord of the flies on DOTR is excellent in that regard.

I don't play Guitar, so I don't know a good solo from a bad one, but being a vocalist myself, I can't really see much wrong with Bruce's vocals, but the guy is nearing 50, it's no surprise that he can't do some of the things on older songs he could when he was 25. I would suggest you get the Bootleg from the recent tour, when they played for Sweedish TV in Ullewi. The band, and Bruce especially, sounds fantastic on that.

crag 03-06-2006 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=evilalex!] but Bruce sounds awful on DOTR and the solos in some of the older songs sound half-hearted[/QUOTE]
Personally, i thought Bruce was excellent on DOTR, he just isn't as good as he used to be but he's still a damn sight better than a lot of other singers around today, but you're entitled to your oppinion.

Are there any solo's in particular you thought were 'half-hearted'?

SimonCore 03-06-2006 01:15 PM

When do Day tickets for download go on sale?

crag 03-06-2006 01:18 PM

[QUOTE=SimonCore]When do Day tickets for download go on sale?[/QUOTE]
Are Maiden even playing at download?

Lord Abortion 03-06-2006 01:20 PM

[QUOTE=crag]Are Maiden even playing at download?[/QUOTE]
No, of course not.

SimonCore 03-06-2006 01:24 PM

^^Yeah i thought this was the Metallica thread obviously i clicked the wrong link:O Nevertheless does anyone know?

Lord Abortion 03-06-2006 01:40 PM

Anyone else really love when two worlds collide?

I'm listening to it now, and Blaze's mournful intro is simply breathtaking.

evilalex! 03-06-2006 01:40 PM

[QUOTE=crag]Personally, i thought Bruce was excellent on DOTR, he just isn't as good as he used to be but he's still a damn sight better than a lot of other singers around today, but you're entitled to your oppinion.

Are there any solo's in particular you thought were 'half-hearted'?[/QUOTE]

Daves solo on The Number of the Beast, its easily one of Maidens best live songs, but I just wanted him to do something!
Surely you can all hear the difference in Bruce's voice when you compare DOTR to RiR? Dont get me wrong Bruce is an amazing singer and just as good a song writer, I saw Maiden at Sheffield on that tour and Bruce had a far better night then he did on the recording of DOTR, the scream during Wrathchild is always a tell-tale sign I think

the_uber_penguin 03-06-2006 02:35 PM

I hear that Bruce has a cold that night, so his singing wasn't on top form.

RiR > DotR, despite DotR having Dance of Death, Journeyman and Paschendale.

RiR has The Wickerman, a far better version Fear Of The Dark, Blood Brothers, Dream Of Mirrors, The Evil That Men Do, Sign Of The Cross and The Clansman.

Incidentally, I love Bruce's intro to The Clansman:

"This is a song set in medieval Scotland, it's called The Clansman. This song is about freedom! Something that should be familiar to you all. [i]But which sometimes is not.[/i]"

crag 03-06-2006 03:39 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Anyone else really love when two worlds collide?

I'm listening to it now, and Blaze's mournful intro is simply breathtaking.[/QUOTE]
I've always loved that song.

I just love the transition from the intro into the heavy part:)

Josh 03-06-2006 04:06 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Anyone else really love when two worlds collide?

I'm listening to it now, and Blaze's mournful intro is simply breathtaking.[/QUOTE]
one of my favourite Blaze-era songs. i love the version on As Live As It Gets as well.

Mr_Bounce 03-06-2006 07:16 PM

Speaking of Blaze, I haven't heard his parts in Iron Maiden very much, but I checked out a couple of his solo albums (Tenth Dimension, 2002; Blood & Belief, 2004) and they're really quite good. Obviously nothing like Iron Maiden or anything like that, but still solid.

Lord Abortion 03-06-2006 07:25 PM

[QUOTE=Mr_Bounce]Speaking of Blaze, I haven't heard his parts in Iron Maiden very much, but I checked out a couple of his solo albums (Tenth Dimension, 2002; Blood & Belief, 2004) and they're really quite good. Obviously nothing like Iron Maiden or anything like that, but still solid.[/QUOTE]
Yes, he's more of a Doom/traditional style now.
His voice is very dark and brooding, like Messiah of Candlemass.

I really love his solo work, [I]Silicon Messiah[/I] and [I]as live as it gets[/I] are excellent.

Mr_Bounce 03-06-2006 10:01 PM

Yeah, that's some good stuff too. I prefer Bruce's voice (by a lot :D), but Blaze is definitely very skilled.

ashman 03-07-2006 08:20 AM

[QUOTE=evilalex!]Daves solo on The Number of the Beast, its easily one of Maidens best live songs, but I just wanted him to do something!
Surely you can all hear the difference in Bruce's voice when you compare DOTR to RiR? Dont get me wrong Bruce is an amazing singer and just as good a song writer, I saw Maiden at Sheffield on that tour and Bruce had a far better night then he did on the recording of DOTR, the scream during Wrathchild is always a tell-tale sign I think[/QUOTE]

I was at Sheffield, it was amazing, Daves solo to NOTB was superb (well I was stood like 5ft away, so I saw everything :p ). They should have recorded that night, it was excellent...

SimonCore 03-07-2006 10:31 AM

Have maiden announced their November dates yet?

Lord Abortion 03-07-2006 10:38 AM

No, Only Scandanavia.

raz0r 03-07-2006 10:42 AM

[QUOTE=SimonCore]Have maiden announced their November dates yet?[/QUOTE]

Yes.

They're selling like ****ing hot cakes though. All 3 of the sweden dates were sold out in an hour.

Holland tickets are on sale the 18th March.
I'm getting down to the ticket shop at 6am for those things.

Deth 03-07-2006 11:00 AM

[QUOTE=SimonCore]Have maiden announced their November dates yet?[/QUOTE]
UK dates:

Dec. 11 - Cardiff, UK @ NIA
Dec. 12 - Birmingham, UK @ NEC
Dec. 14 - Manchester, UK @ Arena
Dec. 15 - Glasgow, UK @ SECC
Dec. 17 - Newcastle, UK @ Arena
Dec. 18 - Sheffield, UK @ Arena
Dec. 20 - Dublin, IRE @ The Point
Dec. 22 - London, UK @ Earls Court

Josh 03-07-2006 11:13 AM

[QUOTE=Deth]Dec. 17 - Newcastle, UK @ Arena
[/QUOTE]
i'm so gonna go. again. lol.
my little brother will probably want to go as well.

Lord Abortion 03-07-2006 11:13 AM

/Dances.

crag 03-07-2006 11:16 AM

[QUOTE=Deth]UK dates:

Dec. 11 - Cardiff, UK @ NIA
Dec. 12 - Birmingham, UK @ NEC
Dec. 14 - Manchester, UK @ Arena
[B]Dec. 15 - Glasgow, UK @ SECC[/B]
Dec. 17 - Newcastle, UK @ Arena
Dec. 18 - Sheffield, UK @ Arena
Dec. 20 - Dublin, IRE @ The Point
Dec. 22 - London, UK @ Earls Court[/QUOTE]
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

JamJar 03-07-2006 11:24 AM

[QUOTE=Deth]UK dates:

Dec. 11 - Cardiff, UK @ NIA
Dec. 12 - Birmingham, UK @ NEC
Dec. 14 - Manchester, UK @ Arena
Dec. 15 - Glasgow, UK @ SECC
Dec. 17 - Newcastle, UK @ Arena
Dec. 18 - Sheffield, UK @ Arena
Dec. 20 - Dublin, IRE @ The Point
Dec. 22 - London, UK @ Earls Court[/QUOTE]

Hmmm, Birmingham or London?

crag 03-07-2006 11:26 AM

[QUOTE=JamJar]Hmmm, Birmingham or London?[/QUOTE]
Both?

JamJar 03-07-2006 11:28 AM

[QUOTE=crag]Both?[/QUOTE]

If I have the money/neither are 18+

Lord Abortion 03-07-2006 11:29 AM

Crag, I may be seeing them in Glasgae too, aswell. if I'm not broken up for Christmas by that point.
University...It gives you the excuse to see Maiden twice!

2muchket! 03-07-2006 11:38 AM

Hopefull I'll have broken up from college by then if not........Maiden is more important

crag 03-07-2006 11:44 AM

[QUOTE=JamJar]If I have the money/neither are 18+[/QUOTE]
If the Glasgow gig is 18+ there'll be hell to pay.

/shakes fist

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Crag, I may be seeing them in Glasgae too, aswell. if I'm not broken up for Christmas by that point.
University...It gives you the excuse to see Maiden twice![/QUOTE]
haha, me under the same roof as another MXer:amaze:

Josh 03-07-2006 11:45 AM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Crag, I may be seeing them in Glasgae too, aswell. if I'm not broken up for Christmas by that point.
University...It gives you the excuse to see Maiden twice![/QUOTE]
i could maybe come up from Newcastle to Glasgow to see them, then see them at Newcastle (i'm hopefully gonna be at uni at Durham).

my life has a meaning again :).

Uni will probably finish for Christmas on the 18th, or soon after anyway, so i can earn the money back over Chrismas :)

[quote=Mr Amsterdam]Hopefull I'll have broken up from college by then if not........Maiden is more important[/quote]
Newcastle will be 12 minutes on the train from Uni...

The Fonz 03-07-2006 03:39 PM

I cant wait 'till they come to the US. Seeing them live would OWN. I have to convince my parents (im 15) to buy them now. Then wait for them to come on sale, becuase it will take a few days, and from the looks of things, I wont have that much time.

Josh 03-07-2006 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=The Fonz]I cant wait 'till they come to the US. Seeing them live would OWN. I have to convince my parents (im 15) to buy them now. Then wait for them to come on sale, becuase it will take a few days, and from the looks of things, I wont have that much time.[/QUOTE]
UK tickets go on sale on the 17th.
i don't know how much of a US tour they'll actually do, i don't know how much of one they did for Dance of Death.

The Fonz 03-07-2006 03:53 PM

I was thinking one summer, either next, or the one after, me and my friend should fly to europe for a few days when theres ther most concentration of concerts. Beauce a)europe is cool and b) Theres much more good metal concerts over there.
Of course it wont happen, but still.


As a no0b to this thread, i guess i'll just say that one of the coolest part of iron maiden songs, is the epicness of them. Like "the trooper" "Pascendale".. etc.

GenuineImitation 03-07-2006 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=Josh]UK tickets go on sale on the 17th.
i don't know how much of a US tour they'll actually do, i don't know how much of one they did for Dance of Death.[/QUOTE]


They better do a US tour. Do you think they will after last years Ozzfest incident?



Seventh Son of a Seventh Son is quickly becomming my favorite Maiden album.

Josh 03-07-2006 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=The Fonz]I was thinking one summer, either next, or the one after, me and my friend should fly to europe for a few days when theres ther most concentration of concerts. Beauce a)europe is cool and b) Theres much more good metal concerts over there.
Of course it wont happen, but still.


As a no0b to this thread, i guess i'll just say that one of the coolest part of iron maiden songs, is the epicness of them. Like "the trooper" "Pascendale".. etc.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.wacken.com/en/woa2006/]start saving[/url]
lol. i may go there, but i dont think i can afford it with going to uni in september.

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]They better do a US tour. Do you think they will after last years Ozzfest incident?



Seventh Son of a Seventh Son is quickly becomming my favorite Maiden album.[/QUOTE]
they'll probably do a few of the major cities.
7th son is great, i never used to like it much, but now i love it. especially Only the good die young.

GenuineImitation 03-07-2006 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=Josh][url=http://www.wacken.com/en/woa2006/]start saving[/url]
lol. i may go there, but i dont think i can afford it with going to uni in september.


they'll probably do a few of the major cities.
7th son is great, i never used to like it much, but now i love it. especially Only the good die young.[/QUOTE]


Few major cities I see. That means that they may come to New York.

The Clairvoyant is my favorite from 7th son.

JamJar 03-07-2006 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]The Clairvoyant is my favorite from 7th son.[/QUOTE]

That and Infinite Dreams.

the_uber_penguin 03-07-2006 05:06 PM

I love the album as a whole, I don't really listen to individual songs.

Moonchild, Infinite Dreams and Seventh Son are my favourite individual songs though, with The Evil That Men Do not far behind.

Mr_Bounce 03-08-2006 12:25 AM

bellowing: MOOOOOOOONCHHIIIIHAAAYYYYYIYAAILLLDDDDDD!


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