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(*The Noonward Race*) 10-17-2011 10:52 PM

not gonna post anything until my album

im actually making good mixes now

shortz 10-17-2011 10:53 PM

^lololol at actually making good mixes now. If your previous were crap I really wanna see what you've come up with

And downloaded - thanks limmy ^_^

(*The Noonward Race*) 10-17-2011 10:54 PM

lim yoiu should get monitors if you have them they help x a million

and when mixing you can always do something but its a major motherfucker to figure out what could take hours if youi have no clue what it is or have never done any of it before

Haz 10-17-2011 11:44 PM

[url]http://www.box.net/shared/ix97216rxet2g4sgz37h[/url]

Drugstep 10-18-2011 12:21 AM

is this primus inspired

if so read this and mail me a copy of illuminatus

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yage_Letters[/url]

Haz 10-18-2011 01:53 AM

i'm not done with my own copy of illuminatus yet, lol

I can assure you Primus never sampled dialogue from [I]Eastbound And Down[/I] and time stretched it until they sound like they are slurring

will read more Burroughs

nodding 10-18-2011 02:32 AM

[url]http://www.box.net/shared/xquc0uoauts163v1ru7r[/url]

think ive posted this before but w/e its the best ambient thing ive done imo

been messing around testing the dynamic range of stuff i make, its fun

adb 10-18-2011 04:16 AM

[IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2m7t94z.jpg[/IMG]

Drifting Icon - Past Lives
Genre - Lo-Sci Fi (Noise)

1. Abandon
2. Me
3. Drifting Icon

[url]http://www.mediafire.com/?mrqvttb5cy5tsfa[/url]

(*The Noonward Race*) 10-18-2011 04:19 AM

"[I]drifting icon is the next death and taxes[/I]"

-cnn

Haz 10-18-2011 04:27 AM

yeah i've found mixing vocals and samples in particular has really benefited from boosting dynamic range. I could never get them to stand out from the mix before

also when I record, I seem to get the best result from having all the bass, mids and treble on my pre-amp boosted to max I can isolate frequencies as need be

garbage in, garbage out I guess

adb 10-18-2011 04:53 AM

[url]http://soundcloud.com/carbonizedicon/abandon[/url]

(*The Noonward Race*) 10-18-2011 05:31 AM

[quote]also when I record, I seem to get the best result from having all the bass, mids and treble on my pre-amp boosted to max [/quote]lol that isnt a good idea, turning your pre amp to max will usually be too high and make it distort unless your mics are broken or something what kind of preamp do you have

you can always get a better sound, but your tools can over-color you ears very very quickly

like if you're sweeping a parameter that you're not used to listening for

for example if you blindly choose and between A and B like 9/10 times then you truly can tell a small difference in character, for example, that was done in a psychological study, i saw that in a recording engineer conference video i posted a while back

Haz 10-18-2011 08:37 AM

it's just my guitar amp. there's no distortion, it doesn't seem to clip or degrade the quality of sound at all otherwise.

I want it to sound "fuller", i've tried holding back on the frequencies to try and get a flat, even sound but it just never seemed to work in my favour. If I boost it this way, I can seem to get the exact same result by using the center channel extractor tool in adobe audition to isolate unwanted sound frequencies and fiddling with compression and EQ, the difference is i've got that extra band of frequency there to play with. Still, I try and narrow the frequencies to avoid "over-coloring" it as you put it.

on the plus side recording a song or two every day i'm learning the limitations of this cheap equipment, by the time I progress to better stuff i'll have something of an idea how to take advantage of it. then I can start spending more time on polishing weaknesses in songwriting and musical ability rather then using everything as an excuse to get better at sound engineering

Drugstep 10-18-2011 03:12 PM

[QUOTE=Haz;18683969]i'm not done with my own copy of illuminatus yet, lol

I can assure you Primus never sampled dialogue from [I]Eastbound And Down[/I] and time stretched it until they sound like they are slurring

will read more Burroughs[/QUOTE]
read Junky, Queer and Yage Letters and then re read Naked Lunch

once you realize every scene in naked lunch is an outtake from his first three books you all of a sudden realize that his cut up books are only weird because he withdrawing off of heroin when he wrote them

i will mail you my entire Burroughs collection if you send me a copy of For Whom THe Bell Tolls, i never understand it

shortz 10-18-2011 04:52 PM

[QUOTE=adb;18684015][IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/2m7t94z.jpg[/IMG]
[/QUOTE]

Isn't this the same album cover as [I]Submerged[/I]? For the most part at least.

Either way I am listening currently.

(*The Noonward Race*) 10-18-2011 07:53 PM

[quote=Haz;18684077]it's just my guitar amp. there's no distortion, it doesn't seem to clip or degrade the quality of sound at all otherwise.

I want it to sound "fuller", i've tried holding back on the frequencies to try and get a flat, even sound but it just never seemed to work in my favour. If I boost it this way, I can seem to get the exact same result by using the center channel extractor tool in adobe audition to isolate unwanted sound frequencies and fiddling with compression and EQ, the difference is i've got that extra band of frequency there to play with. Still, I try and narrow the frequencies to avoid "over-coloring" it as you put it.

on the plus side recording a song or two every day i'm learning the limitations of this cheap equipment, by the time I progress to better stuff i'll have something of an idea how to take advantage of it. then I can start spending more time on polishing weaknesses in songwriting and musical ability rather then using everything as an excuse to get better at sound engineering[/quote]oh haha a guitar amp, yeah those are sneaky

heres ur next step get a audio / digital converter the come with pretty good preamps for mics for budgets, you can also free up cpu power as well by having a dedicated soundcard

another thing that helped me was watching all my music in foobar with a spectral display, helps my identify where the tiny good sounding ghostly edges are located in pitch

and how the spectrum of frequencies is divided up among parts and space

heres a mix i did today, im using space a looooot

lukeskywalkertakingadump 10-18-2011 07:57 PM

i recorded $ome riff$ an for $ome rea$on the volume alway$ $tart$ out at the rite volume but then 10 $econd$ in it decrea$e$ to really low and i don't change my amp volume at all

i'm u$in the computer mic and it happen$ in every program

any of you know why thi$ happen$ or how to fix it?

thank$ in advance

Haz 10-18-2011 08:05 PM

probably some normalisation option in your soundcard features... unless you have got the amp directly plugged in the jack then perhaps it is filtering the signal to prevent damage to your computer

thanks Noon. downloading that track, curious cause you said it was all so under wraps :p fuck dial up though :(

(*The Noonward Race*) 10-18-2011 08:06 PM

check automation of the volume envelope

you might have accidentally faded it at one point on record

im not sure sure how reason works but that could def be it

edit oh wait every program.. not sure... can you sttill hear it or does it go all the way down

RouteOne 10-18-2011 08:06 PM

[quote=adb;18684026][url]http://soundcloud.com/carbonizedicon/abandon[/url][/quote]
I thought the parts where all sound "dipped" down was a bit of an annoyance


it didn't happen a lot, though

Haz 10-18-2011 08:06 PM

[QUOTE=(*The Noonward Race*);18684558]check automation of the volume envelope

you might have accidentally faded it at one point on record

im not sure sure how reason works but that could def be it[/QUOTE]

I was gonna suggest that but he said it happens in every program

(*The Noonward Race*) 10-18-2011 08:07 PM

[quote]

thanks Noon. downloading that track, curious cause you said it was all so under wraps :p fuck dial up though :([/quote]it is, look again! cool

lukeskywalkertakingadump 10-18-2011 08:08 PM

how can i fix it?

i miht $tart recording on thi$ tape recorder we have

Haz 10-18-2011 08:15 PM

buy a USB mixer or something

[img]http://i.imgur.com/ZIy9g.jpg[/img]

these are cheap as dirt, and a huge step up from using a computer mic

lukeskywalkertakingadump 10-18-2011 08:18 PM

i think my dad ha$ $ome computer recordin euipment that he'll let me u$e he collect$ uitar$/amp$/ pedal$ and $tuff

thank$ haz



tbh i'm $elf con$ciou$ about my mu$ic $o i'm kinda $cared to po$t it normally i don't care if people fuck with me but mu$ic i$ a little per$onal for me

cau$e i don't want everyone to hate it like they do brent$ mu$ic

Juddybear 10-18-2011 08:18 PM

i wont hate, i really wanna hear this stuff

(*The Noonward Race*) 10-18-2011 08:20 PM

yeah a very cheap usb (tho firewire is waaay better for playing along and recording at the same time) and anyone can get started since its all free on the internet

lukeskywalkertakingadump 10-18-2011 08:21 PM

the $on i have $o far i$ two tremelo riff$ the choru$ an ver$e i $till need a bridge riff

id $how it to you the recording i have but the volume change$ ten $econd$ in

if you can deal with that i'll po$t the rough recording of the two riff$ i have

Juddybear 10-18-2011 08:22 PM

dude i listen to brenoritvrezorkre and other shitty sounding shit on the regular bro, i can handle it

post it i wanna hear it mad bad

Haz 10-18-2011 08:23 PM

[QUOTE=(*The Noonward Race*);18684593](tho firewire is waaay better for playing along and recording at the same time)[/QUOTE]

is there latency?

don't think i've seen a computer with firewire for a long time

shortz 10-18-2011 08:23 PM

I'll take a listen.

I wanna see how this concept all plays out tbh

lukeskywalkertakingadump 10-18-2011 08:25 PM

http://www.mediafire.com/?q22blu376j5ucdi

i know it$ not very good already but here ya go

lukeskywalkertakingadump 10-18-2011 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=shortz;18684603]I'll take a listen.

I wanna see how this concept all plays out tbh[/QUOTE]

it$ only two riff$ on guitar i nee to write lyric$ an the other in$trument$ an come up with another riff

(*The Noonward Race*) 10-18-2011 08:28 PM

[QUOTE=Haz;18684600]is there latency?

don't think i've seen a computer with firewire for a long time[/QUOTE]
less, its satisfying

RTAS plugins with protools have the smallest latency, though sopon enough there will be considerably less latency (for $$)

latency is the hugest problem in my life honestly.. thats a good thing tho

lukeskywalkertakingadump 10-18-2011 08:30 PM

i like the tone i have an the recording quality fine i'll be happy if i can only figure out how to $top the volume change

if i can et one more riff in the middle that'll be done and i'll record vocal$ and $ome really really $par$e drum$ $ince i'm terrible at them

i probably won't u$e any ba$$ you can't even hear it in mo$t bm any way i have a ba$$ an i can play fine but i don't $ee a point hone$tly

shortz 10-18-2011 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=lukeskywalkertakingadump;18684608]it$ only two riff$ on guitar i nee to write lyric$ an the other in$trument$ an come up with another riff[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah I know, I'm just saying when it's all completed.

So far sounds pretty interesting, I'm curious to hear the final thing.

(*The Noonward Race*) 10-18-2011 08:34 PM

im just gonna post this

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ozkqan

its supposed to be like freefalling through your own mind and laughling at how simple everything turned out to actually be

lukeskywalkertakingadump 10-18-2011 08:35 PM

thank you $hortz

i like it but i know mo$t people will prob think it $ound$ derivative/borin

i have a few punk $on$ i've written lyric$ for and have all fiured out i'll po$t tho$e in the next day or two i need to record them

Juddybear 10-18-2011 08:37 PM

a promising start, sam

im sure the final product will be awes

(*The Noonward Race*) 10-18-2011 08:38 PM

[quote]im just gonna post this

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ozkqan[/quote]its supposed to be like freefalling through your own mind and laughling at how simple everything turned out to actually be

well its kind of a teaser i guess but i have a new sound planned out far beyond this one and the other ones that have been heard


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