quicktime Baba 'O Riley from T In The Park gig....scroll to page bottom for link....

[url]http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/diary/display.cfm?id=354&zone=pr[/url]

Sep 12, 2006 Philadelphia PA US Wachovia Center
Sep 13, 2006 Wantagh NY US Jones Beach Theater
Sep 15, 2006 Ottawa ON CA Scotia Place
Sep 16, 2006 Boston MA US TD Bank North Garden
Sep 18, 2006 New York NY US Madison Square Garden
Sep 19, 2006 New York NY US Madison Square Garden
Sep 21, 2006 Holmdel NJ US PNC Bank Arts Center
Sep 23, 2006 Baltimore MD US Pimlico Race Course
Sep 25, 2006 Chicago IL US United Center
Sep 29, 2006 Detroit MI US Palace at Auburn Hills
Sep 30, 2006 London ON CA John Labatt Centre
Oct 03, 2006 Winnipeg MB CA MTS Centre
Oct 05, 2006 Calgary AB CA Pengrowth Saddledome
Oct 06, 2006 Edmonton AB CA Rexall Place
Oct 08, 2006 Vancouver BC CA GM Place
Oct 10, 2006 Portland OR US Rose Garden
Oct 11, 2006 Seattle WA US Key Arena
Nov 05, 2006 Los Angeles CA US Hollywood Bowl
Dec 04, 2006 Toronto ON US Air Canada Centre

The 10th at the Rose Garden! HAR!

EDIT: Good Baba clip! Can't wait!

September 29 at Detroit, I'll probably go to that.

I got my tickets for Jones Beach on the 13th. :)

News from Pete's website:

[b]21 July 2006

Astounding Statistics


If you have been visiting our companion website [url]www.thewholive.tv[/url] you may have added to these incredible statistics.

Since the Hyde Park concert we have recorded close to three million minutes of viewing download. That is fifty thousand hours. Nearly eleven thousand hours of that was taken up by people viewing In The Attic. The rest was mainly people logging on to watch the Who's London Hyde Park concert which we put up free in its entirety. Our LIVE subscription for In The Attic and Who Live show excerpts continues to run at between twenty and thirty-five thousand unique viewers each night

I urge you to continue to enjoy the free Who footage while it lasts - I am footing the bill for this provision entirely alone, as I have the who website at [url]www.thewho.com[/url] for the past six years. Plans are hatching to transfer this website to its own base so that Roger Daltrey can have more input.

Free webcasts of the Who on the U.S. tour will be few and far between as we have decided not to go for a large corporate sponsorship deal for this. I am currently negotiating with Roger Daltrey to continue including live clips of the Who in In The Attic, but these will be pre-recorded in future, not Live.

Any Live webcasting of Who shows in future will be Pay For View, and the profits will go to charity as originally envisaged. However, there will be no free Live Who streaming after the last show of the European tour - so make the most of it.

Your generous benefactor - Pete Townshend[/b]


And sort of a related note, does anyone know how to get that piece of crap RealPlayer to work right? I would love to watch some of this stuff properly but lately it keeps telling me my connection is timed out, wtf. Isn't the first time it's done it. And my connection and settings are fine. Thanks....

Well I finally broke down and installed Real Player just so I can watch these webfeeds.

[QUOTE=JXD]Sell the Clapton ticket, maybe? Or maybe not....[/QUOTE]
Thats not a bad idea, but one of my best friends and I are going and have waited to see him for quite some time.

I dunno if I'll have enough money to see The Who in Detroit in time...

[FONT="Impact"][SIZE="6"][COLOR="Red"]PETE AND ROGER "FUEDING". BECAUSE ROG IS BEING AN ARSE WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND INTERNETS. PETE CALLS ON US TO PERSUADE ROGER TO REASON.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

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[b]21 July 2006
Day to breathe....mountain air.


...... Roger seems to think when I provide bandwidth for the Who website, and for Live streaming, he is being exploited in some way and wants a piece of the future ‘profit’. Don’t think there is much chance of profit when it is all aimed at charity. But, the success story is that nearly three million minutes of footage has been watched, and about 650,000 of those has been In The Attic. It’s been a great adventure on this European leg of the tour.

- Pete Townshend[/b]

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[b]24 July 2006
Mixing And Nixing


NIXING

I’m afraid that it looks very much as though after Zaragosa there will be no free webcasting of any more Who shows, or even segments of the shows, Live or streamed on demand. I may be able to post some segments of the shows in Rachel’s In The Attic series, but only if we can work out some way to pay Roger for exhibiting (or should I say exploiting) his magnificent image and vocals.

Seriously, he seems to be unconvinced that the web has any real contribution to make to our career, and I am not going to spend any more time or money mortgaging my half of the stage – though I may webcast some Who shows and not show Roger at all. Only kidding. For now we have a famous Who stalemate.

If you believe Roger is wrong - and if 2.5 million minutes of Who clips viewed by fans on the web won’t convince him, we’ll need a lot of emails - please write and tell him at [email]thegreatevilweb@hotmail.com[/email]

There will perhaps be some Pay For View webcasts for charity, news later. Do enjoy the last two shows at [url]www.thewholive.tv[/url]. After Zaragosa [url]www.thewho.com[/url] is also coming down from inside [url]www.petetownshend.com[/url] where I have run it as a microsite for a number of years. I am hoping I can persuade Roger to put in some money to help run it. Again, your emails to urge him on could be useful. If you feel you can live without a Who website – and there are a good number of wonderful fan-run sites and chat-rooms – then you could say so. But if you feel the Who site has some special value to you, and you would like to see more about – and from – Roger, then let us know.

- Pete Townshend[/b]

Haha wow I didn't know Roger was such an arse.

Gehe I heard one time when Daltrey played at night of the proms, one of the backing band made a mistake and he got bitchy and said ''I thought yo were here to support ME''

but, yeah he still got bottled in London :P

I just found out what a squeeze box was yesterday.

Can someone recommend me some Who tracks, I know My Generation, Pinball Wizard and Won't Get Fooled Again but that's all.

Anything from Quadrophenia or Tommy


[u]Tracks[/u]:
Happy Jack
Substitute
Magic Bus
We're Not Gonna Take It
Baba O'Riley
Behind Blue Eyes
Squeeze Box

[QUOTE=Kreator2112]Anything from Quadrophenia or Tommy[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't especially recommend a lot of the shorter songs with Tommy or the ones that lean too heavily on the story.

Baba O'Riley
BEhind Blue Eyes
Eminence Front
The Kids Are Alright
The Punk And The Godfather
Love Reign O'er Me
Amazing Journey/Sparks
Underture
Overture
We're not gonna take it

[QUOTE=Dragon_Prince]Baba O'Riley
BEhind Blue Eyes
Eminence Front
The Kids Are Alright
The Punk And The Godfather
Love Reign O'er Me
Amazing Journey/Sparks
Underture
Overture
We're not gonna take it[/QUOTE]
Thanks a bunch :thumb:

No prob, especially Who instrumental is great :) ow and don't forget Who Are You ;) The Real Me is nice too oeh and 1 grat one, Doctor Jimmy

[FONT="Impact"][SIZE="6"][COLOR="Red"][B]The Latest From Pete's Diary. Including Setlist Changes For The States And "Who Shows".[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[b]25 July 2006
[email]thegreatevilweb@hotmail.com[/email]


This address is now full. I don't think I need any more opinions. Of the 250 Mb of emails only two were negative about getting 'free stuff'. One complained about tickets costing $250 - I think there are cheaper tickets available. The other was from a music publisher who pointed out they already owned all our music and we had no right to give any of it away.

I will take a selection of these and print them up for Rog so we can discuss this.

There is some concern expressed that the [url]www.thewho.com[/url] is coming down for good. I am just removing it from inside [url]www.petetownshend.com[/url]. I'm not sure what will happen to it, but Roger and I will need to agree on some course of action.

- Pete Townshend[/b]

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[b]25 July 2006
After the Fall


I have already had quite a few emails from fans expressing various views about the cancellation of Who Live webcasting on my [url]www.thewholive.tv[/url] website. I’m delighted for the feedback and will share your views with Roger when I get a chance.

I want to say a few things:

1. I don’t want Roger to appear to be a completely against webcasting. He has mixed feelings about it, and as a result would be happiest for a major sponsor to take it over. Intel came close to offering us a deal that involved helping to launch their ViiV system, but I was uncertain about it. It seemed to me that I personally would have the bulk of the work helping Intel to set up and run a new website dedicated to the Who. Roger offered to contribute to a website once it was up and running, but he reserved the right not to do so some times. What he will definitely not do is pay for it. I have been willing thus far to pay for a Who website, and webcasting, for a variety of reasons. Not least, I am already the Who’s principal music publisher, and as a producer I believe In The Attic is a powerful tool to get new personalities and music out in a world where traditional radio is still tied too tightly to advertising and demographics.

2. The Who are well established as a classic rock touring war-horse. Webcasting the Who, whether Live or Pay For View, and donating profits (nor proceeds) to various causes, was entirely my idea. I was unable to share my plan properly with Roger prior to the tour because we were having such trouble meeting our recording deadlines. My feeling, still, is that webcasting allows us new ways to get our new music across that our traditional Live show does not. I have yet to convince Roger of this. Sadly, I announced my grand plans, and put them in action, before Roger really had a chance to digest what I was doing.

3. Six months prior to the start of the Who tour I established a plan for the Live webcasting of In The Attic (during the Who tour but not allied to it). I subsequently persuaded Rachel Fuller (the presenter and my co-producer) to do her show from Who shows for my convenience, even though that caused her a lot of problems – noise from the Who stage, extreme heat at outdoor shows, the expense of taking the video and sound rig to every Who gig, the cost of Satellite equipment etc. The upside for Rachel turned out to be that at Festivals she was able to invite other bands on to chat and play – and we both enjoyed that. I also pleaded with her to include a Live Who song from every Who show in case she sold her show on to television – that way the Who would appear before a wider audience.

4. It will be clear that I simply decided to combine the two main events: In The Attic webcasting was combined with Live Who webcasting (the latter to raise money for charities Roger and I both feel passionate about).

5. The statistics for both the Who viewing figures and for In The Attic are quite phenomenal. They are more surprising for In The Attic; there is a tendency among some people to assume that it is the Who brand name that attracts viewers. The stats show a more balanced view. It appears that about one quarter of those who request video to view on demand watch In The Attic, and they actually stay much longer than the average viewing time on the web. For Live streaming in real time In The Attic outstrips the Who at the moment.

6. I am having a ball doing the In The Attic shows prior to Who shows, and for some reason it is making me feel lighter-hearted about my stage role in the Who. There are number of reasons for this, some are obvious, some less so: I haven’t really evaluated the chemistry yet. It could simply be that I am a performer and I like to have as big an audience as possible. But I do love a technological challenge too. I also like the sound of my own voice.

7. Fans wonder whether Roger’s non-appearance on In The Attic has any significance. Firstly, there has always been an open invitation for him to appear as other artists like Eels or Flaming Lips have appeared – to come on informally and chat and maybe play a song. I believe he is quite simply a little shy, but also feels In The Attic is the exclusive territory or Rachel Fuller and her team (that includes me) and feels he does enough performing on stage with me as ‘The Who’. As yet, he simply hasn’t appeared. No one wants to bully him to commit to come on the show when he is working so hard in the Who.

So there seems to be no real problem. Why am I backing down on Who webcasting? It is simply that while on tour it is too much to carry on my own. I had hoped that Roger would fall more actively behind me, and we could secure a solid sponsorship deal that would make everything flow smoothly, and repay some of my initial investment. Roger has been recorded in the media several times saying that I benefit from publishing income while the Who are not touring, and that allows me greater personal, creative and financial freedom. This is true. But with no promise of any investment from inside or outside the Who I need to stand back now and review my commitment.

Some emails starting to come in are focussing on the price of watching $10 webcasts versus the cost of a $30 DVD. This is not relevant – we are selling Live webcasts. If you are happy with a recording, and are willing to wait for it, you can get what you want from [url]www.themusic.com[/url]. To begin with I settled on 99 cents per song-segment, the iTunes model. Our ‘walk-up’ for this was miserable. The Time Zone was tricky for U.S. fans. So we turned to selling the entire show for $10. This was a little better, but our co-production with Hard Rock at London’s Hyde Park created a massive last minute walk-up that – according to our technical people – caused the Pay To View servers to crash. As a result we were forced to put the show up free, after quite a few people had paid for it. We could have asked for money for Who clips on demand (to avoid Time Zone problems), but in the past I have always put these up on the Who microsite free. Live is Live. Anything could happen when you are Live. An edited, streamed download is just not as exciting, and it is not NEW!!!

Another problem is that the Who seem to be playing roughly the same song set every night. We are back in harness, walking an old warhorse of classic rock songs around Europe’s Festivals – playing to new and often younger crowds who are getting to know us. They want to hear the old music. I swing my arm, Roger swings his mike, kids hold up signs telling me to smash my guitar. It’s fun all over again. Our web fans may well have heard it all before, they are more interested in something new and risky: it is a dilemma. A rock Festival with 80,000 kids who have never seen The Who is not the place to get arty.

I feel I have no alternative but to LET GO of my ambitions to see Live webcasting of all or part of every Who show. In The Attic allows me to play new music and old rarities as and when I want to, and to meet new people while on the road with the Who. This does and will continue to keep me interested and revitalised and – as long as she is willing - has the added bonus of bringing my partner Rachel along on the tour with me.

I will continue to discuss with Roger what we might be able to do on the Who stage to take advantage of the immense webcast experience I have. However, I do not want to bully anyone. Roger is my partner in the Who. He is not my partner in anything else. We love each other but we are not regular social buddies like Bono and Edge, we do not discuss or share ideas, and we have no unified joint vision or strategy for the Who or for creative projects in general. For those of you who think the Who should just get their head down, make a record, and play Live, well….

HERE WE ARE!!!!!

On a positive note – I am really enjoying the Who shows we are doing. We are playing some new songs, and will play more new stuff on the U.S. tour. I am enjoying meeting people and seeing new faces in the crowd. When we get to the USA we will at least be in the same Time Zone as the majority of our fans in a country the Who have played in most over the years. The Who is an old rock warhorse, but I have a new intravenous drip in In The Attic, and it seems to be keeping me sprightly. I feel recharged and lightened by my appearances on In The Attic. So I suppose a lot of good things could happen if I just LET GO AND LET THEM HAPPEN.

As I have said may times here in these dairy pages, watch this space.

-Pete Townshend[/b]

Doe anyone actually believe that they are going to play anything but the same stuff they played for few decades now. Tour so far have been utterly uninteresting (minus new stuff which of course was dropped fast as usual).
Only chance for rarities is if Townshend plays something in In The attic show but that's it...

Shame they can' be bothered to leave last tour with high note insted same ol same ol...

I think they will, Wanderer. Pete has shown concern for long time fans who want to hear new stuff. And Europe has kind of been a warm up. Wire And Glass and the entire new album are due shortly and I can see them at least doing the Wire And Glass segment again. Plus they are charging a premium. So I think a little something special can be done. If they make it a little special. I hope they can realize that. Don't just play the new stuff, [i]present[/i] it. I think we'll get some new stuff. I'm not paying upwards of $100 to see a "hits" show.

I heard that the audiences weren't responding that well to the new material

The smaller crowds were. Larger festival crowds were not, according to Pete. And they have been playing a lot of festivals. Still, they seem to of dropped the "mini opera" from the set entirely. They have been doing Real Good Looking Boy, Mike Post Theme, and Pete did a solo acoustic full version of Endless Wire the other night. When they come to the states and with the new stuff released I hope they do at least 3 new tunes from the new album. Or like I was saying, try to find a way to "present" the new stuff. They can always start the show with it. Doubt they would. But it's something U2 did to great success on the ZooTV tour when they weren't sure about the new stuff. And they still do it to some extent. The audience is ready, the band comes out, plays 3 or 4 new tunes to warm 'em up, and then gives them what they want.

I dont care what they play, as lonjg as they play

I've seen 'em three times, so I kinda care. I could do with a little freshening up of the setlists, good as it is.

[QUOTE=JXD]I've seen 'em three times, so I kinda care. I could do with a little freshening up of the setlists, good as it is.[/QUOTE]


have you noticed they have kinda tamed their live shows?

Um, well, not really. These new gigs seem a bit more casual. At least they seem so on the webcast. I suppose age has something to do with it. Once you hit your sixties I suppose time starts moving faster. You age faster, I guess. Roger definitely seems more casual. Just goes out in an old t-shirt and shorts sometimes. Although it has been hot, so that might be why. And Pete has said in his diaries he hates when Rog wears his "granny glasses" because they make him look old. But for the most part, musically, they are still fiery as ever.

I saw them in '96 when they toured performing Quadrophenia with the "big band", in 2002 in Irvine and 2004 at the Hollywood Bowl. Very explosive shows, good band behind them, Pete leaps, windmills, and creates havoc on his guitar. They really haven't lost that much. And it is said Roger has been fighting a throat infection on this latest tour, so that might be a reason for his more casual approach. And I do expect the American shows to be kicked up a notch, while the European ones were a bit more reserved.

Tommorow (July 27) either a peice of a show or an entire show (not sure which) will be broadcast for free on thewholivetv.com. Live, as the site name suggest. You gotta register, I think. 21:00 British Standard Time. Which I think is 1:00 or 2:00pm PST, American. You might look into that timezone thing. So if you're are available, check it out and see for yourself...

lol, did they ever blow up the drum kits, or smahing the guitars live when you were there?

I lol'd at the "Granny Glasses" thing.

[QUOTE=apple pie]lol, did they ever blow up the drum kits, or smahing the guitars live when you were there?[/QUOTE]

they haven't done that since the mid 60s

[QUOTE=apple pie]lol, did they ever blow up the drum kits, or smahing the guitars live when you were there?[/QUOTE]
Pete's hearing can't take it anymore. They haven't done any of that for ages.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]they haven't done that since the mid 60s[/QUOTE]


nah they def did that in the 70s

[QUOTE=apple pie]lol, did they ever blow up the drum kits, or smahing the guitars live when you were there?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=apple pie]nah they def did that in the 70s[/QUOTE]

The Who started doing that early on. Over the years it sort of evolved into different things. And yes, Pete did do some smashing in the early and mid-seventies here and there. But it wasn't a nightly thing or part of the performance. And the drums stayed put. Amps didn't come crashing down, things exploding. The only other band I've seen engage in this regularly with any kind of effectiveness was Nirvana. They were reckless enough to pull it off. It was The Who who put the violent edge in rock n roll, though. In the music itself and with unpredictabilty. And they meant to do it. It wasn't calculated, but it was deliberate. Townshend at work, mostly. A quote from Wiki's excellent Who page. It's been updated recently:

[b]"The Who were easily one of the most influential groups in rock music as a whole. The aggressive music made by the power trio formation of Townshend, Entwistle, Moon, was FOLLOWED by groups such as Cream, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Led Zeppelin, Rush, The Jam and nearly all punk and grunge bands."[/b]

Such is the extent of their influence. That's why they can play alongside bands less than half their age at festivals. They will be playing the Virgin Fest this year. Right between The Chili Peppers, Knarls Barkley, and The Raconteurs, among others. They also "invented" the Marshall Stack. True. Lot's of 'peeps think it was Hendrix because he kind of made it famous by fuc.king one every night (what a fruit loop). But The Who were making makeshift stacks from the beginning and Marshall developed the first Stacks just for them. Because they had to play LOUD to be heard over Moon. So the Who put a lot of the volume in rock, too. The louder, the better. :)

But yeah, the smashing thing is over. He's done it several times over the years, tops. Last time was in '04 in Japan. It's being auctioned for charity as his "Last Smashed Guitar". So it would have to be. Signed and mounted.

If I won the lottery that bitch would be mine....

About the marhsall stacks

Entwistle used them to make sure the bass gets heard over the drums
townshend used them so the guitar gets hear over the bass

I made a big report one time about the Who, this was in there too.

Been getting into behind blue eyes recently, pretty good song.

[QUOTE=JXD]They also "invented" the Marshall Stack. True. Lot's of 'peeps think it was Hendrix because he kind of made it famous by fuc.king one every night (what a fruit loop). But The Who were making makeshift stacks from the beginning and Marshall developed the first Stacks just for them. Because they had to play LOUD to be heard over Moon. So the Who put a lot of the volume in rock, too. The louder, the better. [/QUOTE]
Not to mention the fact that they were the first band to even use Marshall amps. When Marshall started making them he would use the Who as a testor to see what musicians liked, and didn't like.

On another note, I watched The Kids Are Alright (for the millionth time) today and got to thinking about what happened to the Gibson SG Townshend threw into the crowd. Did it even survive the crowd? Is it still around somewhere today? What do you guys think?

[QUOTE=loathed]Been getting into behind blue eyes recently, pretty good song.[/QUOTE]
That's a really good song. I don't appreciate it as much as I should because I've heard it so much. And I've never really liked it live for some reason? Perhaps the only Who song I don't like live. But it's really good songwriting and great lyrics. Townshend. Can't say enough about him.
[QUOTE=PremierManiac]Not to mention the fact that they were the first band to even use Marshall amps. When Marshall started making them he would use the Who as a testor to see what musicians liked, and didn't like. On another note, I watched The Kids Are Alright (for the millionth time) today and got to thinking about what happened to the Gibson SG Townshend threw into the crowd. Did it even survive the crowd? Is it still around somewhere today? What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I was reading that on the Wiki page. First to use 100 watt heads, too. TKAA is a great film. And that SG? I remember now. He just tosses it. I would think it would of survived. Very well made instrument. And if so I have no idea where it might be? Maybe a Hard Rock Hotel or Casino/Restaurant? The Who do charity work with them, so you never know. But yeah, who took that home? Maybe I'll do a little research....

A roadie in the crowd got the SG back.

Yeah, Blue Eyes isn't that great live, but the recording is awesome, especially the alternate take on the extended Who's Next CD.

I think it was claimed by roadies who rushed out and grabbed it from the crowd. That's what I remember reading, anyways.

Yea I think it mentions in the booklet for TKAA that a roadie rushed to get the guitar back.