What is the packaging like with it, standard cd case or Paper Back or whatever?

So far I think I am going to buy this.

[QUOTE=Cain]It's pretty far away from Train of Thought's sound. LaBrie is still not working for me as a vocalist though, but Portnoy's drums sound a lot better than they've been, and [B]there's keyboard ALL OVER this album[/B].[/QUOTE]
eeeexcellent :)

I'm kinda thinkin that this is my favorite Dream Theater album so far, I love it.

i just bought it like 2 hours ago and i think it has a pretty good ambience for that album... i must say i only own ToT, live at budokan and, octavarium which are more in my tastes considering im more into metal than rock but still i really like the slower songs from budokan's dvd.. but to come back to octavarium.. at first listen i cant say i really heard any amazing solo(like wtf-stoked-cantmove) but still i really like the ambience the keyboard is adding. i really liked the vocals too less aggressive than ToT without the rapcore like parts. one of my fav song from it is never enough. it has a kinda new sound that mixes psytrance-metal and it has a more opera groove.

I just got [i]Octavarium[/i] now, the first song was excellent but this second one is like Anna Lee, but worse :(

is there a song named octavarium, if so how much does it lasts?

thx

[QUOTE=daven]is there a song named octavarium, if so how much does it lasts?

thx[/QUOTE]
24 minutes

I'm really dissapointed by this album. The first song is awesome, it's part 3 of the Glass Prison. The rest of it kind of sucks, though. It's just boring, formulaic, and uncreative. I haven't listened to the title track enough to know what to think of that one though.

about 24min...23:59 to be precise.

[QUOTE=azathoth]I just got [i]Octavarium[/i] now, the first song was excellent but this second one is like Anna Lee, but worse :([/QUOTE]

The piano line is remiscient of an Evanescence song. :-/

I love the album personally. The last two tracks are mindblowing.

[QUOTE=clearvision]about 24min...23:59 to be precise.[/QUOTE]

WRONG - The leak was 23:59, the actual version is exactly 24:00.

I love it. Even Never Enough is starting to grow on me, even though I hate JLB's vocal tone in the verses, with all the Matt Bellamy asthma impersonations.

So? I have the leak? Shoot me be0tch.

When I though I had some tracks off Octavarium, they were apparently not in any way. Although they [B]were[/B] DT, and they were tracks off some other, new album, not previous ones. Don't know which.

Eg. When I got Panic attack it started with a tremolo effect on the guitar. Wrong after listening to the new one it starts off with the bass part. Someone said these tracks were of Jamies Labries new album? Anyway, after d/loading a few Im still going to support the band by [I]buying[/I] the cd.

O and another thing. I feel sorry for James in DT really. In TOT some of the lyrics were done by Petrucci and Jordan, not James, so he only did a few. Portnoy and Petrucci were the main producers of their songs on TOT, amongst other albums, and this happened again in Octavarium.

My copy arrived today. My first impression is very good, but not quite up with what people were saying about it being one of DT's best. When I heard SFAM and ToT I was completely blown away on first listen, I suppose my expectations might have been too high for this one.
Then again, I've only listened to it once, I'll see how I feel after a few listens

EDIT: yeah I forgot to mention, I thought Panic Attack was Muse-like, well Never Enough sounds exactly like a Muse song

[QUOTE=trysthedrummer]O and another thing. I feel sorry for James in DT really. In TOT some of the lyrics were done by Petrucci and Jordan, not James, so he only did a few. Portnoy and Petrucci were the main producers of their songs on TOT, amongst other albums, and this happened again in Octavarium.[/QUOTE]

James has never been the principle lyric writer in DT. It's always been Petrucci and either Moore or Portnoy. The first song JLB wrote the lyrics for in DT was a joint collaboration with Petrucci (Caught In A Web) and he's not really written more than two songs on an album. I think the most he did was on 6DOIT (Blind Faith and Disappear) followed by Octavarium (Sacrificed Sons and the Medicate section of the title track).

And Rudess doesn't write lyrics for DT. Portnoy does, Myung did, but no Rudess.

Oh, and Portnoy and Petrucci have produced the last 4 albums. The last album they did with an outside producer nearly split the band up, remember? I'd do the same thing as they did if that happened to me.

so far Panic Attack is standing out for me. Still a little disappointed with the title track...and I still havent had a good [I]thorough[/I] listen...but so far the album seems very simple. Not as progressive as I may have hoped, and not enough shredding...but like I said, I'm still waiting to sit down and go through the whole album.

james wrote 2 songs on 6 degrees, which happen to be my 2 favourite tracks on that album. he doesn't often write lyrics, and 2 in particular, Vacant and Disappear are very similar, but i like his lyrics a lot anyway.

:lol: Labrie wrote caught in a web? Man i hate him even more now...

I picked up train of thought today, it was interesting....some parts were great, but others just passed me by. Nothing has been able to feed my hunger from Images and words, scenes from a memory came close but didn't quite make it...

How do people rank the albums?

for me it's...

Images and words > Scenes from a memory > Octavarium > awake > Change of seasons > 6 degrees

I haven't including ToT as it's my first listen, though i haven't given 6 degrees much of a chance i fount it really uninspiring....

Opinions on the albums?

I&W = SFAM > ToT > 6DIOT > Awake > WDADU > FII

I haven't included Octavarium yet becuase it hasn't had time to sink in, but at the moment I reckon it would be in between ToT and 6DIOT
And I've not inlcuded ACoS because its an EP, but the song itself is one of the best

What appeals to you abvout ToT and 6 degrees? i sense they are pretty similair in their sound...

SFAM > 6DOIT > IAW > TOT > Awake > FII > WDADU > ACOS




So far I'm guessing 8VM would be in between Awake and FII, but like I said I haven't had a genuinely thorough listen yet.

SFAM > IAW > 6DOIT > ToT > Awake > ACOS > WDADU > FII

octavarium will probably end up in between 6 degrees and ToT

ToT was the first DT album I heard so maybe that's why I like it so much. I was expecting them to be a regular metal band, and that album just completely blew me away
If you listen to it as a metal album, not as a prog album, then you realise it is amazing
Personally it is one of my all time favourite metal albums, up there with Master of Puppets and what not

got Octavarium..THE day it came out, second one left :D

Images & Words/Octavarium > FII > SFAM > ToT > 6DOIT > Awake
and the live albums..
Live Scenes > Budokan > OIALT

Awake > Scenes From A Memory > Images & Words > Octavarium > Train of Thought > A Change of Seasons > Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence > When Dream and Day Unite > Falling Into Infinity

/rates [i]Awake[/i] much higher than most DT fans

Hmm... I find it pretty hard to compare them... I like different things about each album. I reckon that for me the order would have to go...

SFAM = IAW = AWAKE > TOT >(=) Octavarium > 6DOIT

Haven't really give FII a proper chance yet, and as someone said before ACOS is an EP yet one of the best works they're ever done.

I really like Octavarium. I think as an album it works exceptionally well. I can understand that some people are annoyed at how similar some songs sound to other bands (Muse, U2, Coldplay etc), but meh, it works for me. Petrucci's restrained playing here really works for me too, we've all seen that he can shred like the best on TOT, but this album proves those people who said he was devoid of emotion wrong (check out ending on title track). The songwriting here is immense as ever, and the Intervals section of the title track is one of those moments that sends shivers down my spine. The only other record I have that does that is Frances The Mute. But yeah, that's just my opinion.

I seem to fit in with what most people are saying... I'd rate Octavarium above than 6DOIT (I feel disc two lets it down, great song, but they could have done better) and below or maybe equal to Train of Thought.

[QUOTE=clearvision]What appeals to you abvout ToT and 6 degrees? i sense they are pretty similair in their sound...[/QUOTE]


i don't think they're similar at all. 6DOIT isn't anywhere near as heavy as ToT and to me seems more like SFAM only without the regression story.

i'd rank them as:

I&W
SFAM
6DOIT
Awake
Octavarium
ToT


i don't have the first album, or FII, although i do have 7 mp3s from it, and ACOS isn't really an album. but still, just because ToT is last, doesn't mean i don't like it, there's not one album by them i dislike, i just like the others more.

I change my mind. I love parts of the new album, but still some parts just seem really really lame (the 2nd track being the main one, and the chorus of I Walk Beside you).

Haven't listened to all of the title track yet, but Sacrificed Sons blows me away.

[QUOTE=Kaden]I change my mind. I love parts of the new album, but still some parts just seem really really lame (the 2nd track being the main one, and the chorus of I Walk Beside you).

Haven't listened to all of the title track yet, but Sacrificed Sons blows me away.[/QUOTE]

SS is a great song isn't it?

Octavarium will blow you away even more.

[QUOTE=The JoZ]SS is a great song isn't it?

Octavarium will blow you away even more.[/QUOTE]
I'm looking forward to it.

EDIT: Anyone else notice that the beginning of Octavarium sounds [i]exactly[/i] like shine on you crazy diamond?

[QUOTE=Kaden]I'm looking forward to it.[/QUOTE]

Hello, there, Kaden. I sure haven't seen you in a long time.

[QUOTE=Kaden]I'm looking forward to it.

EDIT: Anyone else notice that the beginning of Octavarium sounds [i]exactly[/i] like shine on you crazy diamond?[/QUOTE]


i noticed that exact thing too

so whats everyone favorite song on octavarium??
i saw that a lot of people mostly liked the root of all evil which i really dont think is the best... the one i listen to more than the other is never enough. sounds like metal mixed with infected mushroom psytrance at the beggining. and sacrificed sons is pretty good too.

anyone else notice at 14:15 on title track the lyrics are "lucy in the sky with diamonds"? :p

I like Panic Attack and sacrificed sons the best.

Can anyone tell me what cd Glass Prison is On?

[QUOTE=Suicide_Punishment]I like Panic Attack and sacrificed sons the best.

Can anyone tell me what cd Glass Prison is On?[/QUOTE]

That would be Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. I'd upload it for you, but I honestly recommend getting the whole album.

Dude, the orchestra stuff on the title track is reminding me of Nightwish.

[QUOTE=Cain]Hello, there, Kaden. I sure haven't seen you in a long time.[/QUOTE]
I think you're hawt.

Really, I like all the songs on Ocatvarium...although I Walk Beside You is the weakest link.

I need to listen to Never Enough again, because honestly I don't remember how it sounds.

I will say that I really like Root of All Evil, These Walls, SS and 8vm

[QUOTE=The JoZ]I Walk Beside You is the weakest link.[/QUOTE]
What about the second track?

I wish I remembered what it's called.

The piano ballad one.

That song is teh suk.

Favourite song is "Pull Me Under"

I have Images and Words, Awake, Scences From A Memory, and Train of Thought, what album would you suggest next?