goddamn this kids parents should have hit him more or something

Yeah, you and Masscows. Brilliant bunch there!

[quote]They have Grind elements, they aren't deathgrind[/quote]Pretty much every modern death metal/deathcore band has grindcore in their sound somewhere; this is nothing new.[quote]They might have a breakdown here and there, but so do ****ing Coheed And Cambria for god's sake[/quote]Breakdowns don't have anything to do with hardcore.[quote]L Formation has a slow part in it that sounds like a jazz progression, are they jazz now too?[/quote]Well, it doesn't really sound much like jazz but this is nothing new either. Lots of bands from lots of genres use jazz in their sound times.[quote]There is way more to their sound than just Hardcore, and you are just being stubborn if you say otherwise[/quote][B]THAT'S WHY THEY AREN'T JUST HARDCORE, THEY'RE DEATHCORE[/B][quote]Prey For Eyes may have hardcore influences and structures to it[/quote][B]THAT'S WHY IT'S DEATHCORE[/B][quote]So unless you want to get your genres off of Wikipedia gtfo and form your own opinions of the music.[/quote]people look at genres on wikipedia? Death metal may be the predominant sound (which it is), but there's still lots of hardcore and metalcore in their sound as well and discounting that is asinine.

[QUOTE=Hbp;15992502]Yeah, you and Masscows. Brilliant bunch there![/QUOTE]
good one bro

Everything you just said was wrong. Ribspreader doesn't have grind influence. Nile doesn't have grind influence. Lykathea Aflame doesn't have grind influence

So does that make them Jazzdeath or jazzgrind?

[QUOTE=Hbp;15992518]Everything you just said was wrong. Ribspreader doesn't have hardcore influence. Nile doesn't have hardcore influence.

What do most if not all of the deathcore bands you listen to have?

So does that make them Jazzdeath?[/QUOTE]

This is probably the most incoherent post I've ever read in my life.

lol sure was! Do I really have to quote what you said or can you somehow manage to match them up with the right ones?

[QUOTE=Hbp;15992518]Everything you just said was wrong. Ribspreader doesn't have grind influence. Nile doesn't have grind influence. Lykathea Aflame doesn't have grind influence

So does that make them Jazzdeath or jazzgrind?[/QUOTE]

[size=7]GTFO[/size]

[QUOTE]Lykathea Aflame doesn't have grind influence
[/QUOTE]yeah they do

dude srsly i think you have earned my respect this time.

wait, who unbanned you and your 15 accounts anyway?

new jersey is a s[font=verdana]h[/font]ithole, blacklisted is overrated

[quote]Ribspreader doesn't have grind influence. Nile doesn't have grind influence. Lykathea Aflame doesn't have grind influence[/quote]Nice namedrop on the last one.

Anyway, blastbeats were invented in grindcore. Mike Smith from Suffocation took grindcore blastbeats and changed them a little. That's the type of blastbeat you hear today in death metal. So yeah, pretty much all modern death metal and deathcore has grindcore in it somewhere.

Suffocation is deathcore

Yo you guys ever heard Behemoth they're really good deathcore

Good job thanx for the history lesson.

:lol: Mappy's neg message:
[size=10]die in a ****ing fire you ignorant ****[/size]

So all death metal drumming is from grind?

I like the song [i]Forcefed Human Sh[size=2]i[/size]t[/i] by Brain Drill

who invented blastbeatS?

[QUOTE]Anyway, blastbeats were invented in grindcore. Mike Smith from Suffocation took grindcore blastbeats and changed them a little. That's the type of blastbeat you hear today in death metal. So yeah, pretty much all modern death metal and deathcore has grindcore in it somewhere.[/QUOTE]
This is a horribly flawed and irrelevant point.

Someone rename this to the ultimate fail thread.

Seriously

The Red Chord still are not deathcore, leave it

[size=7]THIS COULD BE THE BEST NIGHT OF MY LIFE
LETS GET ANOTHER CASE AND STAY UP ALL ****ING NIGHT[/size]

[QUOTE=Hbp;15992545]So all death metal drumming is from grind?[/QUOTE]

No, blastbeats came from grind though.

Anyway this argument is getting way off track and I think Hbp proved himself to be wrong with his last big post.

[QUOTE]The Red Chord still are not deathcore, leave it[/QUOTE]
You could easily say they are. I wouldn't just because of the awkward associations it creates but it's a pretty logical conclusion to come to.

Leave it.

im just gonna say that when multiple people say youre wrong and then you throw a hissy fit, it doesnt mean youre right

[quote]
This is a horribly flawed and irrelevant point.

Someone rename this to the ultimate fail thread.[/quote]Wait how?

yes masscows, I am wrong and you are the smarter one. Blast Beats are the defining factor in all Death Metal, or should I say grind. I guess you're right, they are interchangable because all death metal has blast beats so... yeah

you win for sure

you too mappy

you are 100% right, all of your contributions to Masscows argument swayed this in your favor. Every single valid point you brought up was totally founded in stone, so I admit, I was wrong

you guys both win, gg :thumb:

[QUOTE]Wait how?[/QUOTE]
You're pulling threads. Making an unproven statement (grindcore invented blast beats) and saying that Suffocation pulled that technique from grindcore and the claiming it to be a "grindcore" influence is flawed and irrelevant. Derpass.

well blasts were used before grind was around, and nobody in specific did anything to revolutionize the beat or anything

[QUOTE=Hbp;15992574]yes masscows, I am wrong and you are the smarter one. Blast Beats are the defining factor in all Death Metal, or should I say grind. I guess you're right, they are interchangable because all death metal has blast beats so... yeah

you win for sure[/QUOTE]

Narrow minded large bundle of stickss call The Red Chord deathcore. They have Grind elements, they aren't deathgrind. Primarily, they are death metal. Not all their songs have this hardcore influence masscows seems to be cumming over. They might have a breakdown here and there, but so do ****ing Coheed And Cambria for god's sake. L Formation has a slow part in it that sounds like a jazz progression, are they jazz now too? There is way more to their sound than just Hardcore, and you are just being stubborn if you say otherwise. Death Metal is the predominant sound and that is what they are. Prey For Eyes may have hardcore influences and structures to it, it's still a death metal record. So unless you want to get your genres off of Wikipedia gtfo and form your own opinions of the music.

[QUOTE=Hbp;15992574]yes masscows, I am wrong and you are the smarter one. Blast Beats are the defining factor in all Death Metal, or should I say grind. I guess you're right, they are interchangable because all death metal has blast beats so... yeah

you win for sure[/QUOTE]
when did I ever say this? I was just saying that death metal has [b]some grind influence[/b] in it. I feel like I'm arguing for evolution vs a creationist here.

[size=7]ENOUGH OF THIS NIGGOTRY, LISTEN TO KIDS LIKE US[/size]