Thinking of everyones talk in the past few pages, I am now sitting here with some beers and just listening to Demilich. Fantastic! When I drink I always want to listen to metal but I only drink with other people really so metal isn't really the music at the time. Drinking and listening by myself I am loving :)

blah, headache.

Toejam, what Mexican bands do you know? (death metal of course)

NP: Preaching for Mass Suicide

Necrophagist is so fukking awesome... i think i need to learn some songs by them... or at least "steal" some exercises.

Necrophagist have no songwriting talent, no aggression, no riffs, and no atmosphere. He can play fast, but death metal is supposed to be music, not a sport. I'm afraid I have to file them away as bland, sterile kiddie ****.

they are technical, i agree... but thats the reason why i love them... not every band has to have "atmosphere" or good interludes... necrophagist are just awesome.

Dargon, do you like early Therion?

Therion's "Gothik Kabbala" bores me. Seriously.


I haven't got anything else from them though.

@Behemoth: if you have written down a riff... how do you write "interludes" or how do you make another riff... thats the part when i fail always. i write down a riff and its finished - no more ideas.

are you just messing around or do you have a "trick" how to write interludes easier/faster.

[QUOTE=Stoic;14940182]Dargon, do you like early Therion?[/QUOTE]
...Of Darkness is alright, it's a little laid-back and bland for me but it has some good ideas and decent atmosphere. I don't like anything past that.

[QUOTE=repcak;14940195]@Behemoth: if you have written down a riff... how do you write "interludes" or how do you make another riff... thats the part when i fail always. i write down a riff and its finished - no more ideas.

are you just messing around or do you have a "trick" how to write interludes easier/faster.[/QUOTE]

I don't think you can really teach that. You either get ideas or you don't. That said, try screwing around with the one you already have to make something different, or think of where you want the song to go and try to create it.

[QUOTE=Dargon II;14940169]Necrophagist have no songwriting talent, no aggression, no riffs, and no atmosphere. He can play fast, but death metal is supposed to be music, not a sport. I'm afraid I have to file them away as bland, sterile kiddie ****.[/QUOTE]

In your previous era here, didnt you claim the sole criteria to judge music upon was speed? Did you not say that the fastest played thrash song is the best entirely because of that fact?

[QUOTE=Squirrel;14940217]In your previous era here, didnt you claim the sole criteria to judge music upon was speed? Did you not say that the fastest played thrash song is the best entirely because of that fact?[/QUOTE]
I liked fast thrash and still do but I'm pretty sure I never said the only criteria to judge music upon was speed; furthermore that was about 3 years ago so it's quite irrelevant now.

Well, you manner, tone and attitude hasnt changed so I assumed you still had the same judgment and views.

[QUOTE=Dargon II;14940169]Necrophagist have no songwriting talent, no aggression, no riffs, and no atmosphere. He can play fast, but death metal is supposed to be music, not a sport. I'm afraid I have to file them away as bland, sterile kiddie ****.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. When technicality takes over any other aspect of the band then you know it's going to be worthless crap.

[quote=repcak;14940195]@Behemoth: if you have written down a riff... how do you write "interludes" or how do you make another riff... thats the part when i fail always. i write down a riff and its finished - no more ideas.

are you just messing around or do you have a "trick" how to write interludes easier/faster.[/quote]

I actually have a collection of riffs, mostly, and I kinda just have to figure out a way that they go together, without making it seem like they don't. I often look at the relationship between the riffs.

A transition doesn't always have to be a riff in and of itself. For example, if I have two fast paced riffs, somtetimes one goes right into the other (uncommon), but usually if they are both fast, intense riffs, all I need is something like a pick slide or a pinch harmonic to separate the two, and then head straight into the next one.


If the first riff is a fast intense riff and I'm trying to make it go into a slower, more melodic section, it usually works for me to let the last note ring and fade, then go into the slower section. That's the transition, in and of itself.


Basically, you have to look at what you are trying to piece together and how the parts relate to each other. You have to look at if you want a break or if you want to head straight into the next section. But there's no "right" or really "easier" way to compose interludes and transitions. You just have to feel where the song is going.


Edit: Also, it helps if you can hear in your head how you want to "build" up and into the next section, if you're looking to do that.

[QUOTE=Dargon II;14940071]blah, headache.

Toejam, what Mexican bands do you know? (death metal of course)

NP: Preaching for Mass Suicide[/QUOTE]
There's quite a proficient death metal scene in the city I go to university to, but I wasn't as involved with the music scene last year, so I didn't attend concerts or acquire material, for that matter.

Other than the basics, like mexican Disgorge.

When I have time, I'll get some albums and upload them, but while that happens I downloaded a brazilian band named Necroterio which I have to listen yet.

>.>

Some good Mexican/South American bands:

Abhorrence
The Chasm
Cenotaph
Disgorge
Nephasth
Soulburner
Ancient Gods
Infinitum Obscure
In Torment
Shival-vah
Vomepotro

[QUOTE=Poofy 666;14940494]Some good Mexican/South American bands:

Abhorrence
The Chasm
Cenotaph
Disgorge
Nephasth
Soulburner
Ancient Gods
Infinitum Obscure
In Torment
Shival-vah
Vomepotro[/QUOTE]

Soulburner is pretty good. Do you have any of their albums?

I used to but I had to delete it because the files got infected with some virus :(

Finnish Abhorrence > *

[QUOTE=FatalEnergy;14932618]I must be the only one to actually 100% agree with dargon. This "core" crap in the DM thread is a bit ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

If you can't get hardcore right, you clearly can't get death metal right either.

Learn to define things young man.

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14940270]I actually have a collection of riffs, mostly, and I kinda just have to figure out a way that they go together, without making it seem like they don't. I often look at the relationship between the riffs.

A transition doesn't always have to be a riff in and of itself. For example, if I have two fast paced riffs, somtetimes one goes right into the other (uncommon), but usually if they are both fast, intense riffs, all I need is something like a pick slide or a pinch harmonic to separate the two, and then head straight into the next one.


If the first riff is a fast intense riff and I'm trying to make it go into a slower, more melodic section, it usually works for me to let the last note ring and fade, then go into the slower section. That's the transition, in and of itself.


Basically, you have to look at what you are trying to piece together and how the parts relate to each other. You have to look at if you want a break or if you want to head straight into the next section. But there's no "right" or really "easier" way to compose interludes and transitions. You just have to feel where the song is going.


Edit: Also, it helps if you can hear in your head how you want to "build" up and into the next section, if you're looking to do that.[/QUOTE]
cool!
thanks for your advices!

i realized that if i have something in my head, i can pretty good write it down on guitar, if i take the time to do it.

i think i just need to jam around more with myself, try out things and mess around more. most of the time i just practise my technique and songs... i hardly write own material. i should change this.

And in recent news, Dargon gives neg rep for making a point against him.

Very very insecure young man we're dealing with here, the internet seems like his only outlet. We've got to help him out guys.

Dude, I'm just gonna say, shut up about that hardcore sh[size=2]it[/size]. :rolleyes:

wah wah wah

Hopefully this is lul worthy.

Decibel magazine, top 20 death metal guitarists

1. Trey Azagtoth - Morbid Angel
2. Chuck Schuldiner - Death
3. Bill Steer - Carcass/Napalm Death
4. Karl Sanders - Nile
5. Anders Bjorler - At the Gates
6. Mikael Akerfeldt - Opeth
7. James Murphy - Death/Obituary/Cancer/Disincarnate
8. Kelly Shaefer - Atheist
9. Scott Hull - Pig Destroyer/Agoraphobic Nosebleed
10. Erik Rutan - Hate Eternal/Morbid Angel/Ripping Corpse
11. Terrance Hobbs - Suffocation
12. Muhammed Suicmez - Necrophagist
13. Luc Lemay - Gorguts/Negativa
14. Matt Harvey - Exhumed/Repulsion/Dekapitator
15. Robert Vigna - Immolation
16. Patrick Mameli - Pestilence
17. Nergal - Behemoth
18. Baz Thompson - Bolt Thrower
19. Nicke Andersson - Nihilist/Entombed/Death Breath
20. Paul Ryan - Origin

I mean.. some are good, but...

That's actually a solid list.

Eh... Karl Sanders, Muhammed Suicmez, Nergal, Anders Bjorler, and imo Azagtoth don't belong on there at all... and there's others I'd choose in there stead.

idle chatter

[QUOTE=TojesDolan;14940332]There's quite a proficient death metal scene in the city I go to university to, but I wasn't as involved with the music scene last year, so I didn't attend concerts or acquire material, for that matter.

Other than the basics, like mexican Disgorge.

When I have time, I'll get some albums and upload them, but while that happens I downloaded a brazilian band named Necroterio which I have to listen yet.

>.>[/QUOTE]
I have tons of elite Mexican death metal, I'm sure I don't need more from you. I was just wondering what you knew. looks like you knew nothing; as I thought.