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[QUOTE=munky_magik]I believe you should look at this: [url]http://www.megadeth.com/_sections/scorpion/12_10_04.html[/url][/QUOTE]

wow you're on it. I didnt even know you had posted this

Yeah I like the cover they do of Little Wing on Binge. I actually got it for 45. And why would Megadeth do a metallica cover lol? I'm not saying they didn't, but why would they?...

[QUOTE=metal_milita]Its true, that is sperm.
One is called Piss And Blood (Reload?) and one is called Semen and Blood (Load? One or the other). I read it off some hardcore metallica site, but it is true. Kirk saw it on the bottom of some wierd artist, and liked the images.[/QUOTE]

i need proof

no way semen and blood?

[QUOTE=guitarcreep13][SIZE=7]RONNIE[/SIZE]
from
[SIZE=6]LOAD![/SIZE]
Thats it!.
Thanks metallicamaniac for bringing up load so i skimmed through it and found it. now i go to sleep.
night.[/QUOTE]
Glad I could help. :cool:

[QUOTE=metallicamaniac16]Awwww, dammit! I'm not gonna be able to touch the Reload case anymore! Thats not right![/QUOTE]

dude there is no proof. how could you beleive it. it might be true but i didnt see anything like that

[QUOTE=led_zep_luvr]dude there is no proof. how could you beleive it. it might be true but i didnt see anything like that[/QUOTE]
i think hes being sarcastic

It's true about that piss/semen/blood/sperm thing. I don't know I thing I read it in one of these interviews. It's also got an interview with Ron. You should check it out. It's very interesting

[url]http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/Interviews/interviews.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/Interviews/1996_load_perspectives.htm[/url]

" It is the ultimate subversive act. In thousands of record stores throughout the world, displayed for anyone to see, is a photograph of ejaculated sperm mixed with blood. The cover of Metallica's humorously titled Load is a 1990 photograph titled "Semen and Blood lll" by the controversial artist Andres Serrano (his 1987 work, "Piss Christ"--a cross submerged in the artist's urine-- was condemned on the Senate floor by Republican senator Jesse Helms) that Hammett found in a book of Serrano's work that he bought at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art.

Neither Hetfield nor Hammett will talk about the meaning of the cover art. "I don't really want to get into exploring the deeper meaning of that image only because I don't want people to hear it and get a mindset on it and always see what I get out of that image," says Hammett. "I'd rather just explain that it's semen and blood and it's by this guy named Andres Serrano and that I think it's a really beautiful abstract image that is open to a lot of interpretation and metaphor." "

Oh $hit, guys I fvcking hated James, Lars and Dave after reading interview with Ron

:upset:

It's really not that big of a deal anyone. It's just like Page being a satanist, who cares? They put out amazing music

I didn't say music was bad..........it's about personalities

Some intersing moments from that interview:

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Was James singing and playing guitar at this time?

"No. He wanted to be the singer/frontman so it was just Troy on guitar. We started working on three original tunes, one ended up to be Hit The Lights , which became a Metallica song, another song called Handsome Ransom , and a song called Let's Go Rock'n'Roll . The combined riffs from Handsome Ransom and Let's Go Rock'n'Roll became the Metallica song No Remorse . We never really played any gigs, Mulligan decided he wanted to play more progressive 'Rush' type of music, he was a real good drummer, very technical, and I guess he thought we were a little too heavy or too glam for him at the time."

So this is around mid 1981... is this when James met Lars for the first time?

"Yeah. Lars and James hooked up I believe through Hugh Tanner, Hugh brought Lars to our house and I think Troy had already quit the band so James had to go back to playing guitar. When he and Lars first jammed, I thought Lars was the worst drummer I had ever heard in my life! He couldn't keep a beat, and compared to Mulligan, he just couldn't play. So I told James, 'This guy sucks, dude'. And I told them to do whatever they wanted to do and I was just gonna stick to photography, at the time I was taking pictures for bands like Motley Crue. Anyway, Lars would come over and I would watch him and James jam together, and it got better and better but I still didn't feel like getting back into it."

So what's the story about Dave Mustaine and his dogs?

"I think it was the summer of '82. Dave had come over to my house on a Sunday afternoon and he brought his two pit bull puppies. I think I was in the shower at the time; anyway, Dave let the dogs loose and they were jumping all over my car scratching the **** out of it, I had a rebuilt '72 Pontiac LeMans. And James came out and said 'Hey Dave, get those f**kin' dogs off of Ron's car!'. And Dave said, 'What the f**k did you say? Don't you talk that way about my dogs!'. Then they started fighting and it spilled into the house, and when I came out of the shower I see Dave punch James right across the mouth and he flies across the room, so I jumped on Dave's back and he flipped me over onto the coffee table. And then James gets up and yells to Dave, 'You're out of the f**kin' band! Get the f**k out of here!'. So Dave loaded all his **** up and left all pissed off. The next day he comes back crying, pleading 'Please let me back in the band'."

So, you knew nothing of any negotiations between the other band members and Cliff?

"Things started happening back at the house... my things would be missing. The worst thing was when we played with my friend Jim's band KAOS, and ROXX REGIME (who later became STRYPER). Apparently one of Dave's (Mustaine) buddies stole my back-up Ibanez bass guitar...My leather jacket was missing...I was really getting sick of the situation. And I didn't know why this was happening because I did what I could and what they asked me to do. Lars and I butted heads a lot, I hate when people show up late and use you all the time and that's just what Lars did. I would have to drive all the way down to Newport Beach to pick him up, so I told him 'If you can't make it, it's not my problem'. Everytime we did a gig up in San Francisco I had to borrow my Dad's truck, pay for the gas, I had to rent the trailer out of my pocket, I paid for the hotel rooms on my Visa card... and San Francisco is expensive even for a cheap room. I paid for all of this and they couldn't understand why I was mad, they said 'Well, you're getting the check after the gig', and we were only getting paid a $100 per gig at the most, which didn't even cover the hotel room. Plus we drank a couple hundred dollars worth of alcohol. I always said to them, 'If I'm a part of this band, why is it up to me to pay for everything while you guys get the free ride?'. I had suggested we get a manager or somebody that could back us because I was really getting tired of this. And they just laughed about it and said 'have a sense of humor'. They just didn't understand, so they interpreted it as me having a bad attitude."

So you were just fed up with their antics and you probably didn't think that they would become successful...

"Right. I knew the way they were... Dave, at the time, was an *******, and Lars only cared about himself. But what really hurt me was James, because he was my friend and he was siding with them and I suddenly became the outcast in the band."

At the end of November '82, when you went up to S.F. for the third time, did you have any idea that they were planning on replacing you with Cliff?

"After I heard them talk about Cliff, I had some idea. I remember after that show it was raining like a mother****er and I saw Cliff, all in denim, just standing there in the rain. And I said to him, 'Hey dude, do you want a ride home', I kind of felt sorry for the guy. I kind of saw the writing on the wall...We played at the Mabuhay Gardens the next day, it was a little hole in the wall. That was the last gig I did with Metallica."

Driving back home to L.A., did you think to yourself that you were about to be replaced? "First off, let me clear something...I'm talking a long time ago, this was so long ago it doesn't even matter today. I'm just telling you what I was feeling then. I want to make it clear that it doesn't bother me now, this was 14 years ago, it's just memories. I get along with all the guys now. So, this is what happened.. On the way home we stopped at the liquor store, I was driving, and they got a whole gallon of whisky. James , Lars, and Dave were completely smashed out of their minds. They would constantly bang on the window for me to pull over so they could take a piss, and all the sudden I look over and see Lars lying in the middle of Interstate 5 on the double yellow line. It was just unbelievable! And I just said '**** this ****!'. Then one of my friends told me that they witnessed Dave pour a beer right into the pickups of my Washburn bass as he said 'I ****in' hate Ron'. The next day my bass didn't work. My girlfriend at the time also told me that she overheard that they wanted to bring Cliff in the band."

Do you think their intention was to harass you until you would quit the band?

"I don't know. If you listen to their version, they claim they kicked me out. But I never, ever heard them tell me 'You're out of the band'. What happened was, after Dave f**ked my bass up, I confronted the band when they came over for practice and said 'Get the f**k out of my house!' I turned to James and said, 'I'm sorry, James, but you have to go too'. And they were gone within the next couple of days. They packed all their gear and moved to San Francisco."

So this all happened around the first week of December '82.

"Yeah. It was right after we had returned from that trip to S.F. I was so disgusted with the whole thing that I sold all my equipment: my amps, my cases, I even sold my Les Paul which would now be worth about $1,200. I was just so pissed with the whole thing. Then in 1986, my friend Katon DePenna, who was a singer, told me that I should get back into it. I had some cash in the bank at the time so I went and bought a Fender P bass and a Marshall half stack bass amp. So Katon and I started jamming and we formed a band called Phantasm. It was more like progressive punk, it's hard to describe; the lyrics were punk but the music had tons of different changes in it. Our first two shows with Phantasm were on the same two nights as Jason's first shows with Metallica, when they played the Country Club & Jezebel's. I think November 7th and 8th. We played Fenders Ballroom in Long Beach with about ten other punk bands. We also played Fenders opening for the Plasmatics in front of 1,500 people - it was totally cool, that was actually the biggest crowd I ever played in front of. The reason Phantasm broke up is because I just kept getting bombarded with the Metallica thing and the band got sick of it. A lot of kids came to our gigs just because I had been in Metallica. When we went to play Phoenix all the guys from Flotsam and Jetsam were jumping off the stage and after the show everyone bombarded me for autographs. So it just faded away after that and I haven't been in a band since."

so now we know why dave was thrown out.

better i know that

i just thought he was a whiney bitch

[QUOTE=JACKROXYOU]better i know that

i just thought he was a whiney bitch[/QUOTE]

well according to SKOM, he was also a bit of a drunk, even worse than Hetfield when he checked himself into rehab

Dave was also kicked out cause he was big into drugs, and that interfered with the rest of the band.

[QUOTE=gocaps99]It's really not that big of a deal anyone. It's just like Page being a satanist, who cares? They put out amazing music[/QUOTE]
It can be a big deal for some people if their idols are involved in stuff like satanism and painting by a guy who drew Jesus covered in piss. I don't personally agree with Page and his whole satanist deal, or with Metallica usin a painting by the likes of that artist, but the music is great and I'll listen to it.

[QUOTE=metallicamaniac16]It can be a big deal for some people if their idols are involved in stuff like satanism and painting by a guy who drew Jesus covered in piss. I don't personally agree with Page and his whole satanist deal, or with Metallica usin a painting by the likes of that artist, but the music is great and I'll listen to it.[/QUOTE]

Yea your right. I don't like the fact that metallica used that for a cover or page's satanist ways, but the music is awesome

[QUOTE=btoto]It's true about that piss/semen/blood/sperm thing. I don't know I thing I read it in one of these interviews. It's also got an interview with Ron. You should check it out. It's very interesting

[url]http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/Interviews/interviews.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

i liked the interview with cliff's parents

I thought all this **** with Dave, James and Lars being arseholes to Ron was common knowledge. Anyway kids, I don't know if this link has been posted before, but if not, enjoy!

[url]http://www.metallicademos.tk[/url]

Hello-I'm a big Metallica fan!!!

Favorite Song-One, Seek And Destroy, Fade To Black, or Enter The Sandman

Enter The Sandman? never heard that one before.

I can play most of One, Fade To Black, Enter The Sand Man, Seek And Destroy, and Master Of Puppets on guitar. :thumb: :D

There's no 'The' in Enter Sandman.