Try reading James Joyce sometime. Everyone hails this guy as a fantastic author, but he spends 90% of the book rambling on about insignificant events leading up to the actual plot. So like the stereotypical Irishman, his stories take their time and hang around in bars.

While on the topic, [I]White Noise[/I] by [B]Don DeLillo[/B] is totally relevant to this discussion. Yes, the ideas in the novel were wonderful, but the plot, if you can call it that, was ridiculously boring.

[QUOTE=CocaineAndCrucifixes]While on the topic, [I]White Noise[/I] by [B]Don DeLillo[/B] is totally relevant to this discussion. Yes, the ideas in the novel were wonderful, but the plot, if you can call it that, was ridiculously boring.[/QUOTE]
I hated the movie.

[QUOTE=Moses]I hated the movie.[/QUOTE]
They're not the same. The book is about consumerism and death, the movie is all about ghosts. The title is the only similarity, they're not based on one another.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Try reading James Joyce sometime. Everyone hails this guy as a fantastic author, but he spends 90% of the book rambling on about insignificant events leading up to the actual plot. So like the stereotypical Irishman, his stories take their time and hang around in bars.[/QUOTE]

we've actually gotta read one of his novels later this semester for humanities...
the name escapes me though.

WoW stinks. i'm a starcraft person at heart until the end :]

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]All of the above. Not only is the story so dry and boring that'd rather put my foot up my own a[SIZE="2"]s[/SIZE]s, but Faulkner tried so hard to get the southern dialect down that he went as far as using terrible grammar. Also, character's thoughts are nearly impossible to follow, since they seem to be stringing random sentences together. I'm 100 pages in and I have no idea what the hell is going on other then a woman has died, the story is just so difficult to follow. Also, the story is told from the perspective of all of the different members in the family, so consequently the same events are retold five different times.

This book is awful. I can't believe this guy was published, let alone awarded a Nobel Prize.[/QUOTE]

It all depends on your perspective. The majority of readers don't appreciate true "literature" which is what Faulkner undeniably writes. You can't deny that he is innovative, inventive, and extremely progressive for the early half of the twentieth century in terms of how he tackles issues of racism, etc. in the Deep South, not to mention the "tyranny of opinion" characteristic of small-town life in his book "Light in August" which I am reading for my fiction class.

The way he writes thoughts is similar to how they actually happen. He uses great touches such as putting conscious thoughts in quotation marks and leaving subconscious, "dark" thoughts in unpunctuated italic sentences. It is confusing, yes, but when you take him on his wavelength it's easy to appreciate why he won the Nobel, even if you don't neccesarily appreciate the work that earned it.

I think "Light in August" is pretty boring too, and I have an incredibly hard time with colloquial dialogue such as that which he includes (the dialect), but at the same time he does try to make a point with it: the character and composition of his characters reveals that while they are not educated, they are equally not stupid.

Some people hate Faulkner, claiming that everything he writes is so full of incomprehensible crap. That's valid too. As long as you realize that the book does hold a lot of worth to a lot of people, and understand why, you are free to think whatever you like.

Judging books like that, which occupy the realm of "high art," are as difficult as judging the brilliance of the painting of two perfectly round circles on a white canvass. There are incredibly alienating aspects and redeeming brilliance on multiple levels for multiple people, in both works. You can't get more subjective than that.

I don't neccesarily disagree with you, either, I'm just saying.

[QUOTE=CocaineAndCrucifixes]Love that album. It's much better than Terrorhawk IMO.

NP: Emperor - prometeus:the discipline of fire and demise (the whole album)[/QUOTE]
i think i like terrorhawk more. shame that they broke up. they're from around where i go to college so they'd play this little cafe right off campus.

james joyce is terribly boring. henry james is probably worse though. ugh. words can not describe how much i loathe henry james.

I hear Opeth and the Devin Townsend Band are touring, supposedly Dark Tranquility are opening. It just has to be 2 hours away. WHY NOT TORONTO, GOD DAMNIT.

Opeth is coming to Calgary. I doubt I'll go, unless I get that Alberta money soon.

I really want to go, but I dont have a car. This sucks, it's such a sick line-up.

I wish AoS would go on tour somewhere around here.

Cats>>>>>>>Dogs.

That's all I gotta say about that!

I had a nice pint and a chip butty at lunchtime.
Being 18 means the pub can be visited during free lessons. :cool:

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Cats>>>>>>>Dogs[/QUOTE]
hell yes \m/

Cats are tempramental little sh[size=2]i[/size]ts as are really small dogs. I repeat: greyhounds are where it's at.

Besides, it's easier to take a greyhound out to the park and pick up chicks because they're guaranteed to be eyecatching and friendly.

Try to take a cat out on a leash and he'll tell you to f[size=2]u[/size]ck off.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Cats are tempramental little sh[size=2]i[/size]ts as are really small dogs. I repeat: greyhounds are where it's at.

Besides, it's easier to take a greyhound out to the park and pick up chicks because they're guaranteed to be eyecatching and friendly.

Try to take a cat out on a leash and he'll tell you to f[size=2]u[/size]ck off.[/QUOTE]
I like cats, but I also like Big dogs.
Then my Auntie in New Jersey got mauled by her Dobermann...that kind of put me off a bit.

NP-Dream Theater- the silent man.

A close friend of my aunt used to have a doberman. He was a weird one. When you put the choke collar on him, he stood with his head up, chest out, and acted very military.

But when you put the regular collar on him he was really friendly. He even brought visitors "gifts" when they came over, i.e. chicken bones from the garbage, dirty boxer shorts from the laundry basket, etc.

You and your Horror Fiction class Alex...
I have no lessons and I'm hella bored.

/mutters jealously

NP-Dream Theater- Lie

[quote=Lord Abortion]Cats>>>>>>>Dogs.[/quote]
Werd \m/

NP: Time Machine - Black Sabbath

my friends doberman could say his frigging name


"rawr jay"



it was the funniest sh!t :lol:


/seriously

I used to have a Great Dane...We used to have plenty of animals.

Alas no more, eh?

how long u get to keep the big avatar?

No idea...Jake hasn't been on for ages, so I don't know if he got to keep his or not.
I think it'd be fairer if I gave it up at the end of the month.

eh, no big deal




I have a hard decision to make after work. Go home and practice for band, or go to girls, sister's little pageant thingy

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Alas no more, eh?[/QUOTE]

Well we had to give the Great Dane because of allergies of me and my brother. We had a bunch of salt water fish that died. We had an Iguana who died when we ran out of power. We had this small dog called Gismo, I dont remember what kinda dog it was...that one died at the age of 14.

We had 2 ferrets, 1 that died at 1 year old because of an infection, and the other was realy sick. We dont know why she died...maybe old age. She was 6 years old, which is old for a ferret.

We had another dog when I was a baby. That one caught a disease.

We sound like a mean family to animals :( Were not.

dudes, listen to this...



my older sister and her fiancee got this baby black cat. Cutest thing. Used to sleep in the sink of the bathroom.


One day, Chad (fiancee) was going down the step, where he slipped on a sleeping bag, fell down the steps, and landed on the cat, killing it instantly.


The sick thing is, my sister found the dude curled up in a corner, rocking back and forth

That's unlucky man.

Kurrup- depends what's gonna happen after your girl's pageant?
You'll get boners points for turning up.

I have a yellow lab. Thing is a bit lacking in intelligence, but he's the nicest dog you'll ever meet.

I never realized how hard pit would actually be...stupid actual melodies for guitar. :mad:

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]That's unlucky man.

Kurrup- depends what's gonna happen after your girl's pageant?
You'll get boners points for turning up.[/QUOTE]



dude, im so "in like Flynn" that i can already make outrageous claims, like the sky is purple and aurora borealis is located in my kitchen, and she believes me...




actually, no, that last part was a lie. I've racked up so many "brownie" points that i believe they have lost all meaning

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]dude, im so "in like Flynn" that i can already make outrageous claims, like the sky is purple and aurora borealis is located in my kitchen, and she believes me...
[/QUOTE]
That's a good place, man.

I'm sitting being all downhearted about not seeing my GF for like 2 days...:lol: