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sniper12345 06-07-2005 07:19 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]What about JB?

*Maybe JB only exists in Canberra, but I would have thought otherwise.[/QUOTE]

JB's in Melbourne and Sydney as well.

The Stapler 06-07-2005 07:32 PM

It totally sounds like James sings "God I'm High" in Sacrificed Sons when he sings "God on high"

:lol:

ytsedrummer 06-07-2005 07:58 PM

This album kicks ***. I'm listening to it right now.

Defintely U2 influences in I Walk Beside You (that's the song I'm on right now) and Not Enough has some Muse- Absolution sounding lyrics in it too, as well as some other songs.

Over all, this album is great and Panic Attack is one hell of a ****ed up song.

ytsedrummer 06-07-2005 08:03 PM

[QUOTE=3rdplanet]At 4:25 Panic Attack really sounds like Muse to me.[/QUOTE]

More like 3:50- 4:30. Same thing with Never Enough. Straight out of Absolution.

Kaptor306 06-07-2005 08:04 PM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]That's the weakest song on the album.

The other 7 more than make up for it though.[/QUOTE]

well said. octavarium is an amazing album. even i walk beside you is kind of alright.

The pet beaver on bass 06-07-2005 08:53 PM

i bought it today:) havnt heard it yet though ive been busy with my other new CD's. but im really looking forward to it. especially this 24 minute ocatavarium.

Dude123 06-07-2005 09:05 PM

Just bought it, really liking it on my first listen. Does anyone know which song is the continuation of the glass prison/ AA steps theme? I looked through the lyrics, and have an idea, but wanna know if anyone knows which song it actually is.

McClain 06-07-2005 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=Dude123]Just bought it, really liking it on my first listen. Does anyone know which song is the continuation of the glass prison/ AA steps theme? I looked through the lyrics, and have an idea, but wanna know if anyone knows which song it actually is.[/QUOTE]
It's, "The Root of All Evil"

Futuro 06-07-2005 09:42 PM

hmmmm... i seem to be the only one that didnt like it that much. joran rudess's solo album was much better IMO.

thunderzstruck 06-07-2005 09:51 PM

whats one of dream theaters albums that is most like scenes from a memory. I love their slower stuff but not too much their heavy metal

ArcLite 06-07-2005 10:58 PM

Try Images And Words. Great album, and should be what you're looking for.

Werny 06-07-2005 11:26 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]What about JB?

*Maybe JB only exists in Canberra, but I would have thought otherwise.[/QUOTE]

Nah we don't have JB down this way (I'm in Wodonga, you know, Albury-Wodonga).

If there's any songs even slightly similar to Stream of Consciousness on this album (please tell), I'm preordering it.

PIGS(1 different one) 06-08-2005 05:08 AM

Well I am listening right now and it sounds amazing, it sounds like they have put songwriting ahead of technical ability this time around and it sounds incredible.

Jack Daniels 06-08-2005 06:29 AM

got it today ;) 3 or 4 of the songs sounds like muse, james even tries to sing like muse on panic room :P Im a big muse fans so i think it is great, imo this is a great album.

Cain 06-08-2005 06:46 AM

[QUOTE=madeyadams]Woohoo I'm excited.

I'm off to the CD store to buy it soon.[/QUOTE]

As am I. :)

EDIT: Lawl @ 4321 posts

the2stranger 06-08-2005 06:51 AM

I was in my recordstore today, and in the Netherlands it isn't coming out till friday :(

Cain 06-08-2005 07:08 AM

[QUOTE=the2stranger]I was in my recordstore today, and in the Netherlands it isn't coming out till friday :([/QUOTE]

You're Dutch? I never knew that. Awesome! :thumb:

I love the multinationality on this site. It's just a shame Americans like me suck at language. I hope to study abroad in Italy, though...it would be cool to get fluent at that.

kurrpt 06-08-2005 07:13 AM

these walls is the best IMO.


I dont think i really listen to rest of it too much though

LiquidTensionTheatre 06-08-2005 07:39 AM

'Lo Dream Theater people,

First DT album I heard was SFAM, it remains my favourite concept album and possibly my favourite album in general. On SFNY, Rudess' face when he's playing the ragtime solo out of Dance of Eternity still makes me laugh, quite how you're supposed to put a smile on your face when playing something that technical so precisely, escapes me.

Other songs I've taken a liking to include 6 o' clock (Learn the drum intro and feel cool :cool:) Metropolis Part 1. Liquid Tension Experiment are also an excellent band, but I won't go into that because this is a DT thread. I also own Live at Budokan, which I thought could've been better but Instrumedley is amazing.

Going to see Dream Theater and Iron Maiden in Paris this month :D

Going to be truly awesome.

the2stranger 06-08-2005 09:09 AM

[QUOTE]You're Dutch? I never knew that. Awesome!

I love the multinationality on this site. It's just a shame Americans like me suck at language. I hope to study abroad in Italy, though...it would be cool to get fluent at that.[/QUOTE]

:D
But I agree, MX is jsut a meltingpot(sp?) of all different countries and cultures, and I must say, it helps you broaden you musical tastes, and overall knowledge about stuff.
studying in Italy sounds cool, although I've never been there.
I study in The Netherlands.

[QUOTE]'Lo Dream Theater people,

First DT album I heard was SFAM, it remains my favourite concept album and possibly my favourite album in general. On SFNY, Rudess' face when he's playing the ragtime solo out of Dance of Eternity still makes me laugh, quite how you're supposed to put a smile on your face when playing something that technical so precisely, escapes me.

Other songs I've taken a liking to include 6 o' clock (Learn the drum intro and feel cool :cool Metropolis Part 1. Liquid Tension Experiment are also an excellent band, but I won't go into that because this is a DT thread. I also own Live at Budokan, which I thought could've been better but Instrumedley is amazing.

Going to see Dream Theater and Iron Maiden in Paris this month

Going to be truly awesome.[/QUOTE]

I haven't seen you before in the DT thread, but that was a great (first) post,
join the DT club ;)

kurrpt 06-08-2005 09:11 AM

hey i uploaded scenes from a memory if anyone wants it

thunderzstruck 06-08-2005 09:23 AM

I bought Octavarium (yes I did have to look up the spelling)

Overall: pretty good, vocals I don't like much-seem to forced. Lyrics are really cheesy but other than that pretty good

kurrpt 06-08-2005 09:23 AM

i always think DT lyrics are cheesy

the2stranger 06-08-2005 09:37 AM

I like DT lyrics, the most atleast.

but on a different topic:
the dance of eternity [SIZE=1]f[/SIZE]ucks up on my pc.
it says it lasts 9 minutes something, but somewhere half way down the song, the songs skips 3 minutes or so, well, not the song, but the numbers,( it skips from 4:20 to 7:20 or something like that) and all of the sudden DoE lasts 6 minutes only.

does anyone else have this as well?
and what is the actual lenght of DoE actually? :confused:

red barchetta 06-08-2005 09:38 AM

DoE lasts for 6.13 on my computer

thunderzstruck 06-08-2005 09:39 AM

DoE lasts 6:13 over here

Cain 06-08-2005 10:30 AM

Just purchased Octavarium. Very melodic, but I have yet to hit a true headbanging moment. (Is only on the second song).

I'm mostly liking it so far.

Lord of Sword 06-08-2005 10:52 AM

i don't really like the lyrics on the new album, not that i'm really bothered by that though. all of them (if i remember right) are written in first person, and seem more narative, which was ok for an album like SFAM but not the albums since. compare lyrics from the early albums, eg under a glass moon or lifting shadows off a dream, to their recent songs.


and also, another easter egg thing on the album. the 5:8 is also to do with the octave thing. on the cover, the metal balls are the FGABCDEF keys that the songs are in, the birds are the flats/sharps inbetween, and it's the same on the back. the keys are also written around the 8 corners of the diagram next to the title track lyrics, which is also "scale - 5:8"

Cain 06-08-2005 10:55 AM

[QUOTE=Material Boy]i don't really like the lyrics on the new album, not that i'm really bothered by that though. all of them (if i remember right) are written in first person, and seem more narative, which was ok for an album like SFAM but not the albums since. compare lyrics from the early albums, eg under a glass moon or lifting shadows off a dream, to their recent songs.


and also, another easter egg thing on the album. the 5:8 is also to do with the octave thing. on the cover, the metal balls are the FGABCDEF keys that the songs are in, the birds are the flats/sharps inbetween, and it's the same on the back. the keys are also written around the 8 corners of the diagram next to the title track lyrics, which is also "scale - 5:8"[/QUOTE]

I think the lyrics are just plain cheesy. Petrucci, Portnoy and Co. have come up with much better stuff and much better vocal lines than they get on this one. I honestly think LaBrie needs to go.

The instrumental stuff is far more listenable than it was on Train of Thought, however.

Fallen Zero 06-08-2005 10:56 AM

how is octavarium? i'm hoping that it takes a step back and goes back to the old style. i'm not too much of a fan of train of thought.

Cain 06-08-2005 10:57 AM

[QUOTE=Fallen Zero]how is octavarium? i'm hoping that it takes a step back and goes back to the old style. i'm not too much of a fan of train of thought.[/QUOTE]

It's pretty far away from Train of Thought's sound. LaBrie is still not working for me as a vocalist though, but Portnoy's drums sound a lot better than they've been, and there's keyboard ALL OVER this album.

Fallen Zero 06-08-2005 11:00 AM

[QUOTE=Cain]It's pretty far away from Train of Thought's sound. LaBrie is still not working for me as a vocalist though, but Portnoy's drums sound a lot better than they've been, and there's keyboard ALL OVER this album.[/QUOTE]

sounds cool. as far as labrie's vocals, do you mean they are still like the last album? the more angry style?

Cain 06-08-2005 11:17 AM

[QUOTE=Fallen Zero]sounds cool. as far as labrie's vocals, do you mean they are still like the last album? the more angry style?[/QUOTE]

Nah, just very overdramatic and loud in the quiet moments. The man does not know how to deliver a sensitive vocal line in peace and doesn't know how to be aggressive without some belted yell in the loudness. He's just not a very good vocalist, IMO.

kurrpt 06-08-2005 11:21 AM

hey ill upload it to ya bud

Jev 06-08-2005 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=Med57]Ah, the curse of LaBrie's singing strikes again. :-/ I still haven't got this album, as there's not one CD shop around me that has it in stock. Pathetic, isn't it? I mean, with DT being the biggest prog metal band in the world I would have thought one of them would deign to bring in the odd copy, but clearly not.

*sigh*

Hopefully, I can pick it up next time that I'm in London. Hopefully.[/QUOTE]
I found some DT albums in Virgin i was actually pretty suprised.

denboy 06-08-2005 12:33 PM

Here in Denmark DT albums are everywhere

Cain 06-08-2005 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]hey ill upload it to ya bud[/QUOTE]

Don't do that, let him buy it. Part of the coolness is in the packaging. And there's enough piracy on the site already, without expanding it to albums.

juggalotricksta 06-08-2005 02:02 PM

I've had the new album now for a couple days. I havent had a chance to sit and listen to all of it yet. But I did listen to the title track after reading so much about it...and I have to say I was somewhat disappointed. It has its moments (like petruccis little acoustic lick around 17:50 or so :thumb: ) but I thought it left much to be desired.

Hopefully I'll get to the rest of it tonight.

MAthiAS 06-08-2005 02:20 PM

So I go to Tower Records yesterday to buy Octavarium. I get there and look in the new releases section, not there, okay meh. I head over to the DT section and there's one in the back... with a $20 price tag. No discount for being new. Fu[b][i][/b][/i]ck that, I'll d/l it now, after I waited because I didn't want to d/l it. Ironic...

The Stapler 06-08-2005 02:30 PM

Some of the little nuggets on here are incredible

I love how the piano key the song is listed on is the key the song was written in. I also cracked up when I heard the measure of "Jingle Bells" on the title track 17:47 - 17:49 :lol:


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