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MAthiAS 02-20-2005 03:29 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]Megadeth is an amazing band.
I just wish the 80s went for longer :(
More Megadeth would have rocked![/QUOTE]
What?

Last Ditch Effort 02-20-2005 03:30 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]Megadeth is an amazing band.
I just wish the 80s went for longer :(
More Megadeth would have rocked![/QUOTE]
Megadeth was still good in the 90s. Rust in Peace came out 1990.

MAthiAS 02-20-2005 03:35 PM

As did Countdown, Youth, and Cryptic Writings... TWNAH was 2001 right?

led_zep_luvr 02-20-2005 03:36 PM

i like megadeth's guitar work, bass, and drums but i don't really like dave voice

Chu 02-20-2005 03:40 PM

[QUOTE=Last Ditch Effort]Megadeth was still good in the 90s. Rust in Peace came out 1990.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying Rust in Peace was bad, I just loved his 80s work. All about the sex, drugs and hair imo.

Initially dave's voice annoyed me, but to be honest, it's really grown on me now.

Freezing Moon 02-20-2005 04:34 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]I'm not saying Rust in Peace was bad, I just loved his 80s work. All about the sex, drugs and hair imo.

Initially dave's voice annoyed me, but to be honest, it's really grown on me now.[/QUOTE]

Same with me. At first I didn't like them as much because I didn't like Dave's singing, but over time I got used to it. I like it a lot now.

MAthiAS 02-20-2005 04:39 PM

[QUOTE=TheChoSenOnes]Same with me. At first I didn't like them as much because I didn't like Dave's singing, but over time I got used to it. I like it a lot now.[/QUOTE]
Same deal with me. Rust in Peace > 80s work though IMO. Marty just brought so much to the table.

Freezing Moon 02-20-2005 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Same deal with me. Rust in Peace > 80s work though IMO. Marty just brought so much to the table.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

Rust in Peace is by far my favorite, mainly because of Marty.

RIP > 80's work, CDTE > other stuff.

MAthiAS 02-20-2005 04:45 PM

I prefer some of the 80s stuff to Countdown, but its undoubtedly a great album. High Speed Dirt is one of my favorite Deth songs, though it doesn't get much attention.

Freezing Moon 02-20-2005 04:47 PM

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]I prefer some of the 80s stuff to Countdown, but its undoubtedly a great album. High Speed Dirt is one of my favorite Deth songs, though it doesn't get much attention.[/QUOTE]

I used to listen to that album all the time. High Speed Dirt is definitly awesome.

It's a great album, just not as thrashy. Marty does some great solos on it.

MAthiAS 02-20-2005 05:57 PM

Marty always has great solos... I wonder what it would've sounded like if Marty had played on KIMB-SFSGSW.

Freezing Moon 02-20-2005 06:25 PM

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Marty always has great solos... I wonder what it would've sounded like if Marty had played on KIMB-SFSGSW.[/QUOTE]

That's an interesting thought. It would probably be much different. Marty's solos took the songs to a whole new level, but Poland's added a different feel to the songs too.

vashts80 02-20-2005 07:22 PM

Weren't Polands solos mainly influenced by jazz or blues, back then? Or is that after he left the band that his stuff started to get influenced by jazz and/or blues?

Last Ditch Effort 02-20-2005 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=vashts80]Weren't Polands solos mainly influenced by jazz or blues, back then? Or is that after he left the band that his stuff started to get influenced by jazz and/or blues?[/QUOTE]
Bingo.
His guitar sounded more like fuzz than a nice metal tone too.
I heard a couple solos he played and his tone was so odd it sounded like a keyboard!

RiceMonster 02-20-2005 08:42 PM

I like Poland. He's obviously not as good as Marty, but I think he was good for MegaDeth.

MAthiAS 02-20-2005 10:39 PM

Poland was a jazz guitarist before Deth, so yeah, that kind of carried over into it. And I think his tone sucked on KIMB, and was pretty good on Peace Sells.

Marty was in Cacophony before Deth, and oddly he went into Japanese pop music after. His solos always sounded influenced by other styles of music, even more so that Poland's.

Freezing Moon 02-20-2005 11:13 PM

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]I like Poland. He's obviously not as good as Marty, but I think he was good for MegaDeth.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I like his jazzy solos because they added something to the songs.

Darkest Hour 02-21-2005 01:04 AM

[QUOTE=Darkest Hour]i fink krik hmmet pwns mustyn[/QUOTE]
JUST KIDDING FOOLS. God****... get a sense of humour...
But anyways... Much respect to Mustaine, he's an excellent riffer of sorts

Arise II 02-21-2005 02:34 AM

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]Into the Lungs of Hell is an awesome song, my favorite instrumental. The tapping part is so cool.[/QUOTE]

I've been trying to learn that song for ages, but alas, my guitar don't have 24 frets :(

[QUOTE=Last Ditch Effort]It's actually not tapping on the remastered album.
He is merely pulling off of his 24th fret onto a zero and picking the zero once.
Here hold on:

e|-24p0---24p0---24p0---24p0---|
B|------0------0------0------0-|
G|-----------------------------|
D|-----------------------------|
A|-----------------------------|
E|-----------------------------|
x2
e|-22p0---22p0---22p0---22p0---|
B|------0------0------0------0-|
G|-----------------------------|
D|-----------------------------|
A|-----------------------------|
E|-----------------------------|

e|-20p0---19p0---17p0---20p0---|
B|------0------0------0------0-|
G|-----------------------------|
D|-----------------------------|
A|-----------------------------|
E|-----------------------------|

e|-19p0---17p0---15p0---14p0---|
B|------0------0------0------0-|
G|-----------------------------|
D|-----------------------------|
A|-----------------------------|
E|-----------------------------|
x2
e|-12p0---12p0---12p0---12p0---|
B|------0------0------0------0-|
G|-----------------------------|
D|-----------------------------|
A|-----------------------------|
E|-----------------------------|

On the original CD SFSGSW he is tapping though.[/QUOTE]

Could you please post the song (mp3)? I wat to hear what the remastered one sounds like

Lord Abortion 02-21-2005 03:08 AM

it's the difference in Poland's jazzy stuff that made megadeth a bit different and how they stood out from the 80's thrash crowd... they just sounded a bit different on the early stuff

munky_magik 02-21-2005 06:56 AM

[QUOTE=Darkest Hour]JUST KIDDING FOOLS. God****... get a sense of humour...
But anyways... Much respect to Mustaine, he's an excellent riffer of sorts[/QUOTE]
You need to remember that this is the internet. Sarcasm doesn't carry well across it.

acefrehleyjendell 02-21-2005 09:42 AM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]You need to remember that this is the internet. Sarcasm doesn't carry well across it.[/QUOTE]

Too Right :thumb:

WarlockMan4389 02-21-2005 11:12 AM

Mustaine is one of the best. people think of him as just a rythem/vocalist but you have to remember that:

1. he was the lead guitarist for metallica before he got kicked out
2. he wrote alot of material for metallica which got stolen by the bastards
(example: four horsemen is megadeths mecanix)
3. he is better than kirk hammet any day, kirk is good on cds but sucks live.
4. he writes all the solos for megadeth bassically so he can play his lead
guitarists parts the same or better than his lead guitarist
5. holy wars (just listen to that megadeth song and youll see why he owns)

munky_magik 02-21-2005 11:15 AM

He doesn't write all of the solos. There is alot of stuff that Marty wrote that Dave could never play.

Freezing Moon 02-21-2005 11:22 AM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]He doesn't write all of the solos. There is alot of stuff that Marty wrote that Dave could never play.[/QUOTE]

Maybe some stuff, but I remember reading an interview where they were playing live, and Marty missed a queue, so Dave just took the solo for him.

I was actually suprised by his soloing ability on TSHF. I would have thought that Poland would write all of the good solos, but it seems like the better ones were all played by Dave.

Chu 02-21-2005 11:36 AM

[QUOTE=TheChoSenOnes]Maybe some stuff, but I remember reading an interview where they were playing live, and Marty missed a queue, so Dave just took the solo for him.

I was actually suprised by his soloing ability on TSHF. I would have thought that Poland would write all of the good solos, but it seems like the better ones were all played by Dave.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure dave will learn all the solos (How could you not?) but I don't think he writes [B]all[/B] the lead solos..

On another note, why is there always so much bashing between Megadeth and Metallica? It bloody annoys me...

Freezing Moon 02-21-2005 11:40 AM

[QUOTE=Chu]I'm pretty sure dave will learn all the solos (How could you not?) but I don't think he writes [B]all[/B] the lead solos..

On another note, why is there always so much bashing between Megadeth and Metallica? It bloody annoys me...[/QUOTE]

Never said he wrote all the lead solos, but I'm pretty sure he can play all of them.

I hate the Megadeth - Metallica bashing. It's all people's opinions, and it gets absolutely nothing accomplished.

That said, I prefer Megadeth. :)

WarlockMan4389 02-21-2005 11:44 AM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]He doesn't write all of the solos. There is alot of stuff that Marty wrote that Dave could never play.[/QUOTE]

Mustaine writes all the music except the drums he gives his drummer a basic idea and then goes with what they come up with. poland didnt write any of his own megadeth solos it was all mustaine. mustaine wrote em so he can play em. once again holy wars listen to it.

munky_magik 02-21-2005 11:47 AM

I have listened to Holy Wars. Your point being?

Freezing Moon 02-21-2005 11:49 AM

[QUOTE=WarlockMan4389]Mustaine writes all the music except the drums he gives his drummer a basic idea and then goes with what they come up with. poland didnt write any of his own megadeth solos it was all mustaine. mustaine wrote em so he can play em. once again holy wars listen to it.[/QUOTE]

No. Just... no.

Everyone has a different style of solos. Poland wrote his own solos, thus the jazzy feel. Mustaine did not write Marty's either. Marty's solos sound much different than Mustaine's. Where the hell did you come up with that?

If you actually think that he wrote their solos, find an accurate source, and post it.

WarlockMan4389 02-21-2005 11:55 AM

[QUOTE=TheChoSenOnes]No. Just... no.

Everyone has a different style of solos. Poland wrote his own solos, thus the jazzy feel. Mustaine did not write Marty's either. Marty's solos sound much different than Mustaine's. Where the hell did you come up with that?

If you actually think that he wrote their solos, find an accurate source, and post it.[/QUOTE]

hahaha little boy. i used to get my info from the official megadeth website but ******* metallica made whined and got the site changed so that the truth is not there anymore. i talked to dave mustaine in person and he told me what happenned oh and mustaine did write all the solos. poland and freidman did have a part in writing it but that dont mean they wrote them. just b/c they sound diff dont mean he didnt write them are you retarded?

Chu 02-21-2005 12:05 PM

[QUOTE=TheChoSenOnes]That said, I prefer Megadeth. :)[/QUOTE]
I agree with you there, but both are ****en amazing bands, why can't people just see that?

Chu 02-21-2005 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=WarlockMan4389]hahaha little boy. i used to get my info from the official megadeth website but ******* metallica made whined and got the site changed so that the truth is not there anymore.[/QUOTE]
Why did you say that?
No one is talking about Metallica, and I don't see how Metallica whining could make Mustaine remove something about Marty Friedman's solos from his site.

[QUOTE=WarlockMan4389]i talked to dave mustaine in person and he told me what happenned oh and mustaine did write all the solos. poland and freidman did have a part in writing it but that dont mean they wrote them. just b/c they sound diff dont mean he didnt write them are you retarded?[/QUOTE]
You're pretty quick to use the R word...

clairvoyant 02-21-2005 12:11 PM

[QUOTE=WarlockMan4389]hahaha little boy. i used to get my info from the official megadeth website but ******* metallica made whined and got the site changed so that the truth is not there anymore. i talked to dave mustaine in person and he told me what happenned oh and mustaine did write all the solos. poland and freidman did have a part in writing it but that dont mean they wrote them. just b/c they sound diff dont mean he didnt write them are you retarded?[/QUOTE]

Dude. You are retarded. Taken from the Marty Friedman website.


HOLY WARS
[b]I had to fight to record the second electric solo in this tune the way I wanted[/b]! The first take I did as I was just warming up was the one that producer Mike Clink liked. When he heard it, he said, "That's fine. Good job." And I was like , "Whooooaaaa! Wait a minute. I haven't even tuned my guitar yet. Let me play a REAL solo here." He and Mustaine both thought it was fine and that we should move on to something else, so we left it at that. As the days went on and on, just knowing that solo was on there really bugged me. So I kept bringing it up to the guys that I wanted to redo it. Everybody liked the solo that was there, so I had no allies! Eventually I wore down Mike Clink's nerves and he had me come back in and [b]re-cut the solo, and the new solo is the one that made the record. [/b]

LUCRETIA
[b]This solo is a great example of my playing. It's got it all. It sounds worked out, but it really wasn't. I follow all the chord changes differently, almost like a jazz player, which I definitely am not. To explain this solo technically would take a page and a half and a music professor.[/b] I'm quite pleased with this one.

TORNADO OF SOULS
[b]When I finished the solo to this one, Mustaine came into the studio, listened to it down once, turned around and without saying a word, shook my hand. It was at that moment that I felt like I was truly the guitarist for this band. [/b]


A TOUT LE MONDE
Playing this song in France was the greatest!! It is an amazing feeling to hear tens of thousands of people singing your song in a foreign language! Believe it or not, [b]I sort of fashioned the intro of the guitar solo after Larry Carlton's solo in Lionel Richie's "Hello"[/b]. If you're gonna copy something, you might as well copy something that was a hit...


Just a few examples of how Marty wrote all his solos...

WarlockMan4389 02-21-2005 12:13 PM

i never said they whined to get freidmans solos offf the site can u not read? i said they whined b/c dave had up the true reason why metallica was allowed to use The Four Horsemen and other songs he wrote. so metallica got their lawers and told him he had to take it off the site. and wheres your proof that this is off freidmans website post links to these exact words

clairvoyant 02-21-2005 12:15 PM

[QUOTE=WarlockMan4389]i never said they whined to get freidmans solos offf the site can u not read? i said they whined b/c dave had up the true reason why metallica was allowed to use The Four Horsemen and other songs he wrote. so metallica got their lawers and told him he had to take it off the site.[/QUOTE]

I was just proving you wrong about this comment:
[QUOTE]oh and mustaine did write all the solos[/QUOTE]

Chu 02-21-2005 12:18 PM

[QUOTE=WarlockMan4389]i never said they whined to get freidmans solos offf the site can u not read? i said they whined b/c dave had up the true reason why metallica was allowed to use The Four Horsemen and other songs he wrote. so metallica got their lawers and told him he had to take it off the site. and wheres your proof that this is off freidmans website post links to these exact words[/QUOTE]
You looked straight past my point, goodwork, idiot.

Don't even have the patience to deal with this guy anymore.
He makes Megadeth look bad! :lol:

MAthiAS 02-21-2005 12:31 PM

[quote]once again holy wars listen to it.[/quote]
Poland wasn't even in the band when Holy Wars was recorded.

I'd like to see how much of Friedman's solos Dave could play, since lots of people say he's a poor guitarist that just plays fast and surrounds himself with good guitarists that make him look better. Nonetheless you can easily tell which Hangar 18 solo is Dave's, just by the tremolo. I think its great that Dave plays his solos in a more straight up metal style and the other lead guitarist plays in a different style. Makes songs like Hangar 18 really interesting to hear both types.

and holy crap, I just downloaded Four Horsemen, and it is exactly the same as Mechanix, but slowed down a bit. Any other Tallica songs that are this way? Like Call of Ktulu and the Hangar intro?

AB/CD 02-21-2005 01:17 PM

i know a website which points it similarities between megadeth and tallica songs msotly th songs r taken from the ride the lightning album an stuff

vashts80 02-21-2005 02:08 PM

[QUOTE=WarlockMan4389]i never said they whined to get freidmans solos offf the site can u not read? i said they whined b/c dave had up the true reason why metallica was allowed to use The Four Horsemen and other songs he wrote. so metallica got their lawers and told him he had to take it off the site. and wheres your proof that this is off freidmans website post links to these exact words[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.martyfriedman.com/news-detail.php?id=44&sub=Story%20Behind%20The%20Song[/url] <-- A Tout Le Monde

[url]http://www.martyfriedman.com/news-detail.php?id=42&sub=Story%20Behind%20The%20Song[/url] <-- Holy Wars, Lucretia, Tornado of Souls


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