[QUOTE=IHeartDisco]Looking for a 16" Crash.
I am quite a heavy hitter so it has to be something durable.
I play mostly punk/rock and in a band with one guitar and one bass so I want it to be ehard over the top of that.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if you would like the trashy overtones, but wuhan crashes are supposed to be very punchy. And the s series have a nice finish on them so they wouldn't be as trashy as the trads.

im looking for a bright splash, with not to fast of a decay, but also not too long

Check out some HHX splashes.
The Evos rule.

[QUOTE=-TheGlassPrison-]Check out some HHX splashes.
The Evos rule.[/QUOTE]

Give the 8" or the 10" ( :thumb: ) A custom a listen. You might be very pleased!

whats the better buy? sabian paragon hi hats or new beat hi hats

Never heard Paragon, but New Beats are the most versatile and they've been around for a long time.

[QUOTE=Strong Drummer]whats the better buy? sabian paragon hi hats or new beat hi hats[/QUOTE]

the new beats. same general sound, MUCH less money.

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]the new beats. same general sound, MUCH less money.[/QUOTE]

new beat

[QUOTE=MXicanDrummer]Never heard Paragon, but New Beats are the most versatile and they've been around for a long time.[/QUOTE]
doesnt mean they sounded exactly the same as now as they did before. Tghe new beats have gone through many changes.

I'm looking for some hi-hats. I really dig the sound of the ones in Who Are You? by The Who (CSI theme). I know it was edited and all that but that's the sort of sound I'm going for. If I try describing I guess I'd say they're really high and washy and fast, very very clean sounding. No overtones. Oh and a loud chick is good. Or an audible chick...I'm used to B8s, so probably anything will have a better one.

^^^Ah yes, one of my favorite drum tracks. Keith Moon during that time period used Paiste 2002s, so I would suspect yuo should get 14" 2002 Sound Edge hats.

14 over 13" eh?

We've got a really small drum shop here, it's actually just part of an everything music shop, so chances are they won't have any around to try out.

And yeah I was thinking sound edge too, but why sound edge over the regular ones?

Ya the 2002 soundedges are nice, but if Paiste is more expensive in your area, like mine, try looking into the A or A custom Mastersound Hi Hats. They should sound pretty much the same as the Soundedges.
I have the mastersound and will say they are pretty much what you are looking for. Also there is never a time when you shouldn't go try the Hats out for yourself and see which you like the best.

...unless of course it's impossible. But yeah, definitely if I get a chance to try more stuff I will!

ya sorry I didn't read that part, my bad.

[QUOTE=Epiphender]

And yeah I was thinking sound edge too, but why sound edge over the regular ones?[/QUOTE]

As for why the sound edges over the regular ones is because the sound edges or mastersounds have a cringled (s.p?) bottom edge so they have a more articulate chick sound. Which you said you liked the sound of. There are also other reasons that I'm not totaly sure about, so I won't provide you with false information.

[QUOTE=rockindrumer]Ya the 2002 soundedges are nice, but if Paiste is more expensive in your area, like mine, try looking into the A or A custom Mastersound Hi Hats. They should sound pretty much the same as the Soundedges.
I have the mastersound and will say they are pretty much what you are looking for. Also there is never a time when you shouldn't go try the Hats out for yourself and see which you like the best.[/QUOTE]


geiven the fact they're 2002's, they wouldnt be overly expensive though.

How do the various Paiste lines rank for expensitivity?

PST3, PST5, PST8, Alpha, Innovations, 2002/Rude, Dimensions, Traditionals, Signatures

Exotics and noiseworks fall everywhere in between.

Anyone know where I can hear Paiste soundclips?

[url]www.indoorstorm.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Epiphender]Anyone know where I can hear Paiste soundclips?[/QUOTE]

Cool thing is, Paiste are really consistant, so if you hear a sound you like, you should be able to order blind and like what you get. "Should" being the operative word.

yea they're made out of huge sheets by machines so theres not much that could be different within the lines and if theyre the same size.

[QUOTE=Epiphender]And yeah I was thinking sound edge too, but why sound edge over the regular ones?[/QUOTE]

Moon used Sound Edge. I read what his setup was on a site once.

[QUOTE=poppinfresh]yea they're made out of huge sheets by machines so theres not much that could be different within the lines and if theyre the same size.[/QUOTE]

yeah, cause that hand hammer crap doesnt make any difference.

ok! Can you find an ok cymbal package that'll be ok for a drummer who wants to get ride of his crappy cymbals that look like stamped out sheet metal painted bronze! .....so yeah! price range: 200 to 250!......i'm not looking for professional cymbals now.....cause i'm still learning and stuff......i just need something better then the ones i have now!......

and ACTION!

[QUOTE=NCDrummer]ok! Can you find an ok cymbal package that'll be ok for a drummer who wants to get ride of his crappy cymbals that look like stamped out sheet metal painted bronze! .....so yeah! price range: 200 to 250!......i'm not looking for professional cymbals now.....cause i'm still learning and stuff......i just need something better then the ones i have now!......

and ACTION![/QUOTE]

Wuhans. Any of their box or bag sets are less than $250 and they sre top notch cymbals. :D

Wuhans, eh? I thought they were crap!?

[QUOTE=NCDrummer]Wuhans, eh? I thought they were crap!?[/QUOTE]

Not at all.

Hey all. Looking for hi-hats, probably 14", to get that classic 60's wash like ringo and charlie watts. To compliment a 21" A sweet ride and an 18" K crash/ride. open to any brand and (nearly) any price. Thanks heaps.

either the A. New Beats, or some 2002 Medium Hats.