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DeusExMachina 12-21-2004 02:33 PM

Didn't someone post a link to a total analysis of the album, that said it was a lament against capitolism? And, magicbus, if you could hook me up with those covers, that would be very awesome!

magicbus 12-21-2004 02:36 PM

I posted the link awhile ago. [url]http://www.ingsoc.com/waters/personal/animals.html[/url] if you need it again.

The covers are on my other computer, so I could probably get them to you on thursday or something.

DeusExMachina 12-21-2004 02:59 PM

Sweet. Thanks.

IAJP 12-21-2004 03:02 PM

I listened to the new songs off Waters site,
I don't really like them,
but I'm intriuged by [I]"Amused To Death"[/I]...

Dr. Jake Destructo 12-21-2004 04:53 PM

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]I listened to the new songs off Waters site,
I don't really like them,
but I'm intriuged by [I]"Amused To Death"[/I]...[/QUOTE]

What's the URL to the site?

Can you download an Mp3 from the site, or what?

Sam 12-21-2004 08:29 PM

[QUOTE=Lateralias]I can't stand it when people discover DSotM or The Wall but don't explore the rest of PF's catalogue, I had to force two of my friends to overlook Dark Side and TW to hear Animals, WYWH, and Meddle. I'm not saying Dark Side and TW aren't superb albums, because they absolutely are, but it's sad some people don't dig deeper and explore.[/QUOTE]

I understand, but I personally think DSotM is the best Pink Floyd album, even after hearing almost everything else they have.

Not to degrde their other stuff though, PF is one of my favorite bands.

lunch998 12-21-2004 08:30 PM

My take on it is that the Dogs keep trying to get ahead and succeed for themselves, but really they are controlled by the Pigs, who use Dogs to gain control and keep it. No matter how much success the Dogs have in life, it won't matter. The Pigs have control over the Dogs who they then use to control the sheep. I think it can be applied to communist Russia as well as a purely capitalist system.

Dr. Jake Destructo 12-21-2004 08:55 PM

I'm still on the fence as to whether Waters intended "Animals" to be in the same allegorical sense as "Animal Farm." I've read the article Magicbus posted, but on the surface, and on a deeper level of symbolism, there are a lot of similarities. :confused:

All I know for sure is that the album kicks ***. Hooray for prog!

Dr. Jake Destructo 12-22-2004 12:48 AM

I just realized what may very well be one of the most under-rated Pink Floyd songs. Any Colour You Like. I always marvel at the guitar solo, and the interesting keyboard work at the beginning.
What do you guys think of Any Colour You Like?

What do you guys think are some other under-rated songs by them?

magicbus 12-22-2004 01:02 AM

One of my favorite Floyd song ever. Definently my favorite of DSOTM. I just love the whole psychadelic funky thing goin on there. I still have trouble figuring out which instrument is which though. When I first listened to DSOTM I couldn't tell the difference between the instruments on that song.

Kingofdudes 12-22-2004 01:07 AM

[QUOTE=magicbus]One of my favorite Floyd song ever. Definently my favorite of DSOTM. I just love the whole psychadelic funky thing goin on there. I still have trouble figuring out which instrument is which though. When I first listened to DSOTM I couldn't tell the difference between the instruments on that song.[/QUOTE]

Watch them do it on Pulse, you can tell then. It is awesome on there BTW :thumb:

turtlefingernails 12-22-2004 02:29 AM

can someone please tell me what That Pink Floyd Christmas Song i hear on those telus commercials is Called? I hear it all the time and i need it!

Riva 12-22-2004 03:02 AM

Live At Pompeii features Roger on bass and vocals, hey?

Isn't the only live video featuring him?

SixxStringKnife 12-22-2004 04:51 AM

its kinda hard to listen to them if im not on some sourt of drug

hypocracy hater 12-22-2004 07:50 AM

[QUOTE=turtlefingernails]can someone please tell me what That Pink Floyd Christmas Song i hear on those telus commercials is Called? I hear it all the time and i need it![/QUOTE]

Pink floyd don't allow their music for adverts, probably some one esle

IAJP 12-22-2004 08:18 AM

[QUOTE=hypocracy hater]Pink floyd don't allow their music for adverts, probably some one esle[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's true,
something I've allways found a bit weird..

magicbus 12-22-2004 10:23 AM

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]Yeah that's true,
something I've allways found a bit weird..[/QUOTE]

I think that's respectable. They don't want to commercialize their music, that's all.

As for Live at Pompeii, I really need to find that on VHS before its too late. Because they won't be selling VHS tapes after this year. And I heard the DVD had some funky editing and isn't as good as the VHS. But I might just have to get that, cause that's all I can find.

Woodstock 12-22-2004 10:31 AM

It's good that Pink Floyd still have respect for their own music, not selling it out.

The only artist I cant get mad at for using his music in advertising is Jimi Hendrix. Mainly because he's dead.

DeusExMachina 12-22-2004 04:04 PM

[QUOTE=magicbus]I think that's respectable. They don't want to commercialize their music, that's all.

As for Live at Pompeii, I really need to find that on VHS before its too late. Because they won't be selling VHS tapes after this year. And I heard the DVD had some funky editing and isn't as good as the VHS. But I might just have to get that, cause that's all I can find.[/QUOTE]

Well, I don't have the DVD, but I almost bought it (**** responsibility, my sister doesn't need a Christmas present THAT bad) and it said on the back that it has the original version plus the new version which has animations and stuff. I could be wrong though.

As for Pink Floyd marketing their stuff, they did once. They appeared on an ad for a German soda because they were told it would bring ticket prices down for the fans. When they realized how much they were being used, they lost their naivete and haven't appeared in an ad, or commercialized their music since.

Broken Arrow 12-22-2004 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Well, I don't have the DVD, but I almost bought it (**** responsibility, my sister doesn't need a Christmas present THAT bad) and it said on the back that it has the original version plus the new version which has animations and stuff. I could be wrong though.

As for Pink Floyd marketing their stuff, they did once. They appeared on an ad for a German soda because they were told it would bring ticket prices down for the fans. When they realized how much they were being used, they lost their naivete and haven't appeared in an ad, or commercialized their music since.[/QUOTE]
I want to see that commercial now.

DeusExMachina 12-22-2004 04:17 PM

Heh. Well, good luck finding it. It was a magazine ad or something from the early 70's.

Lateralias 12-22-2004 05:05 PM

[QUOTE=AverageGuitarist]I understand, but I personally think DSotM is the best Pink Floyd album, even after hearing almost everything else they have.

Not to degrde their other stuff though, PF is one of my favorite bands.[/QUOTE]

Oh I completely agree... If I had to pick a albm that PF reached their pinnacle in music success, I'd arguably have to say DSotM. The main reason it became so popular and you see tons of spectrum shirts these days is because, that album was a masterpeice. As much as I've listened to it (almost everyday) I still never get tired and it resides in my CD player as we speak. I just meant that PF has alot more than just DSotM to please the ears. :)

I have yet to get the Live at Pompeii video... I'd like to see Echoes (one of my favorites) being played live, that would rock. :thumb:

Riva 12-22-2004 05:27 PM

Indeed it would. I'm currently trying to order it from my local record shop.

BludgeonySteve 12-22-2004 05:53 PM

*is watching the wall live in berlin*

Just a Rodger Waters thing but there's lots of special guests.

Riva 12-22-2004 05:57 PM

Like who? Details man!

BludgeonySteve 12-22-2004 06:00 PM

Bryan Adams, The Band, Thomas Dolby, Van Morrison, The Scorpions, Joni Mitchell, Jerry Hall and lots more.

Lots of backup musicians for different songs too.

Rodger Waters sings on all of them as he is the star of the show.

edit: they have a whole symphony too ;)

thelizardkingcc 12-22-2004 06:03 PM

I dont know if anyone remembers, but a few weeks ago I posted a paper I wrote for philosophy titled "philosophical themes in dark side of the moon." well i got it back, and i got a flipping F. "theres no philosophy in it" is what my teacher said. I have until tommorow to make it up, and although Im on christmas break, I still have homework to do. ahsdhashd

thelizardkingcc 12-22-2004 06:05 PM

as for the Live In Berlin DVD, I got sick of that pretty fast, bc I dont like most of the guest singers. (p.s. roger sings all of his usual parts in the album, and all of the gilmour parts are sung by different people)

Lateralias 12-22-2004 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=thelizardkingcc]I dont know if anyone remembers, but a few weeks ago I posted a paper I wrote for philosophy titled "philosophical themes in dark side of the moon." well i got it back, and i got a flipping F. "theres no philosophy in it" is what my teacher said. I have until tommorow to make it up, and although Im on christmas break, I still have homework to do. ahsdhashd[/QUOTE]

Ouch, that has gotta bite. :( sorry about that man.

I haven't seen the Live In Berlin with Roger Waters DVD yet, probably cause I can't find it in any stores around here, I'll probably order for it online. Has anyone seen that David Gilmour Live DVD? I heard it has Shine On and some other PF classics. Wanted to know if it was any good...

Dr. Jake Destructo 12-22-2004 06:24 PM

[QUOTE=thelizardkingcc]I dont know if anyone remembers, but a few weeks ago I posted a paper I wrote for philosophy titled "philosophical themes in dark side of the moon." well i got it back, and i got a flipping F. "theres no philosophy in it" is what my teacher said. I have until tommorow to make it up, and although Im on christmas break, I still have homework to do. ahsdhashd[/QUOTE]

Really? I read your paper, and it sounded pretty darn good. What are you going to redo it on?


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