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id552 01-13-2005 01:15 PM

Yeah, I like it. Not the most melodic piece, but I never said that I hated reguar Death, I said it wasn't my type of thing. Also, Kreator sound a bit like slayer, who are thrash.

LordDargon 01-13-2005 01:18 PM

[QUOTE=id552]Yeah, I like it. Not the most melodic piece, but I never said that I hated reguar Death, I said it wasn't my type of thing. Also, Kreator sound a bit like slayer, who are thrash.[/QUOTE]
HOLY CRAP!

You completely missed the point of my post.

COMA OF SOULS IS PURE THRASH.

There is no death metal in Coma of Souls.

Earlier Kreator, like Pleasure to Kill, is somewhat deathy, but not CoS.

CoS = Thrash.

(it's technical thrash if you want to get nitpicky, but thrash will do well enough.)

id552 01-13-2005 01:21 PM

Ok, cool. So are you gonna do any of those songs I recomended? I was going to say some In Flames, but quite a few people have heard of them. Thought I'd stick to rare(ish) tracks,

LordDargon 01-13-2005 01:25 PM

You have to do tracks you haven't heard, and I've heard those ones except for the Kyuss. And I don't want to do Kyuss if it isn't metal.

id552 01-13-2005 01:44 PM

Ok, I'm adding a recommendation.
EDIT: Done, try Whitewater.

Bartender 01-13-2005 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=LordDargon]You have to do tracks you haven't heard, and I've heard those ones except for the Kyuss. And I don't want to do Kyuss if it isn't metal.[/QUOTE]

Kyuss may not be technically metal, but they're heavy as a really heavy thing.

/bump

NJMetalMeister 01-13-2005 07:04 PM

Nice reference bartender, 5 metal points for that one.

CaptainWaits 01-13-2005 07:08 PM

K i guess ill dibs this one

CaptainWaits 01-13-2005 07:29 PM

[U][B]KREATOR - COMA OF SOULS [/B] [/U]


0:00 - 0:37... Good start to the song, I really liked the beggining good tempo thrash (the way I like it)

0:38 - 1:05... Tempo picks up a bit, good double-pedal here

1:06 - 1:40... Singer comes in, his voice is different, sounds like he's not talkin breaths in between. There's a horrible end verse here (maybe it's the chorus), just doesnt fit and the vocals completely terrorize it

1:41 - 1:59 ...Back into the beggining beat, so far the best part of this song

2:00 - 2:38 ...Goes back into the verse part where the vocals kill it

2:39 - 3:14 ...Goes into a pretty sweet solo, I quite liked it

3:15 - 3:42 ...The tempo slows down into another vocal ruined section

3:43 - 4:18 (End) ...Goes back into the begging segment of the song (with no vocals....thank god)


Overall I give it 5.5/10

Why?
This song has a lot of potential, just the vocals are insanely brutal, and it loses a lot of its sense throught the bad vocals. Good musicians otherwise, good solo.


[I][U]Recommendations[/U][/I]

Anata - Shackled to Guilt
Anata - Under the Debris
Dew Scented - New Found Pain
Kataklysm - Da*nation is Here
Napalm Death - Cursed 2 Crawl

killswitchlog 01-13-2005 08:39 PM

fvck

^Dream~Theater^ 01-13-2005 08:40 PM

[QUOTE=killswitchlog]fvck[/QUOTE]
Don't post meaning spam just to get a higher postcount.

LordDargon 01-14-2005 07:03 AM

[QUOTE=Animosity_62]This song has a lot of potential, just the vocals are insanely brutal[/QUOTE]
Wha...? You listen to Napalm Death, Kataklysm and so forth, but Kreator vocals are too "brutal" for you?

Devil Inferno 01-14-2005 08:03 AM

dibs @ Animosity_62

Devil Inferno 01-14-2005 09:00 AM

[b]Napalm Death - Cursed To Crawl[/b] 3:25

wow, something unexpected, I thought they would start grinding from the start to the ending.

A very "soothing" death metal intro riff from the detuned guitars and drums from napalm death which is good to rock out to, than the normal naplam death songs which make you wanna tear up a rabbit with your bare hands. then comes a short break from the bass, which well, is very groovy. And when the vocals come in, at 0:30, it was not really very good, but the build up was great and at 0:46 to 0:47 you can really feel the adrenaline build up, then comes that riff again with vocals, and it softens to the bass part again.

i like the distorted riffs alot and that bass part, but the vocals which are not growled are quite boring, but they can build the song quite well, a great chorus.

Suprised at a ND song turning out like that. heh.

Quite ok, nothing too shocking or out of the ordinary, but quite ok song.

Creativity : Riff was great.
Emotions : Death metal, what do you expect?
Idea/Storyline/potrayal of ideas : No comments here.
Flow : Quite ok, apart from some abrupt parts that slowed down too quick.
Song structure : The building up was good, but there was too much of building up and pulling down for a 3 minute song.
Atmosphere created : Quite a good rock out atmosphere with the distorted riff.
Lyrics : pretty good lyrics, a repitative chorus.

6.5/10

[u]Recommendations[/u]
Sonata Arctica - Full Moon (melodic power metal)
Nightwish - Beauy OF The Beast (don't confuse with beauty AND the beast) [symphonic power metal] (10 miinute song)
Avenged Sevenfold - Second Heartbeat (punk/melodeath/metalcore/whatever)
Delian League - Days of Regret (Prog metal)

Sonata, nightwish and a7x is easily obtainable from soulseek and even kazaa.
Delian league available here :[url]http://www.delianleague.com/media.html[/url]

alurny 01-14-2005 02:53 PM

dibs on beauty of the beast

Eleventy 01-14-2005 10:59 PM

Ummm can I do a review for the A7X song? considering it's been more than 12 hours since alurny called dibs.

Tyler 01-14-2005 11:11 PM

I'd say, go for it, but then again, I'm an idiot.

Bartender 01-14-2005 11:38 PM

Er. It's been about 9 hours. But yeah, that's still enough.

alurny 01-15-2005 03:43 AM

srry guys my post failed last night and lost my connection ill let someone else do it coz i didnt save my review

CaptainWaits 01-15-2005 10:50 AM

[QUOTE=LordDargon]Wha...? You listen to Napalm Death, Kataklysm and so forth, but Kreator vocals are too "brutal" for you?[/QUOTE]


I just don't go for that style of singing....Napalm and Kataklysm are a lot different

Badmoon 01-15-2005 01:57 PM

dibs

Badmoon 01-15-2005 02:20 PM

Delian League - Days of Regret (Prog metal)

Okay, throughout this review keep in mind that overall, I am not a fan of Metal music. There are few Metal bands that I care, and many that I cannot stand. I will try to be fair also. But please do not get offended if I dislike the song greatly.

The song opens and gets right to business very quickly. Since the first second hit, the vocalist is heard. His voice isn’t bad, possibly even technically good, but nothing that really excites me. There is a keyboard playing in the back ground with an almost piano sounding sound.

The song picks up, beginning with a guitar with much distortion entering. The drummer and bassist also enter, but a short time after. The drummer performs some interesting double bass role, and occasionally the bassist tries to almost imitate that, causing a not so clean effect. As the band is playing, the keyboard effect changes, and once in awhile the guitarist solos. The solo is kind of predictable and over the top.

He vocalist enters once again. I do appreciate that he [I]does[/I] actually sing. While going through the chorus, the vocalist is accompanied by background vocalists. They harmonize quite well, but the vocals are most likely stacked. The guitarist throws some high notes out in the background.

The instruments really cut down all of sudden. The bassist just keeps up with the drummer, and the guitar riff leads this section. The regular sound kicks back in, as does the vocalist. The bassist performs a few pops and maybe slaps, that are definitely unneeded, and just do add a messy sound to the song.

A fake ending now occurs, but they of course enter once again. There is an odd effect in the back ground, possibly keyboard. The drummer (especially) and the rest of the band slightly break down as the seconds go by, and the singer lets out a cheesy laugh. The song soon ends.

Well, nothing really special. But I was expecting worse. 5/10

[B]Grateful Dead[/B] - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleoo (Country-Rock)
[B]Grateful Dead[/B] - China Cat Sunflower (Psychedelic-Rock)
[B]Grateful Dead[/B] - Franklin’s Tower (Reggae-Rock)
[B]Grateful Dead[/B] - Ramble on Rose (Folk-Rock)
[B]Jerry Garcia[/B] - Bird Song (Folk-Rock)
[B]moe.[/B] - Spine of a Dog (Jam-Rock)
[B]Phil Lesh & Friends[/B] - Liberty (Jam-Rock)
[B]Widespread Panic[/B] - Blue Indian (Folk, etc - Rock)

I reccomend that you do not download live versions. They will be much longer.

Badmoon 01-15-2005 04:46 PM

*bump*

Slapping Penguin 01-16-2005 01:35 AM

Dibs China Cat Sunflower

Slapping Penguin 01-16-2005 02:09 AM

Grateful Dead - Chian Cat Sunflower (Psychedelic-Rock)

I myself been only 15 I have not been exposed as much to bands like the Grateful Dead but I am trying everyday to expose myself more to be a more accomplished musician. So please realise that my experince with this style of music is limited.

This song starts very nicely. Two guitars, a unnoticable piano, drums and a bass get right into it with a nice quite groove that gets your attention and gets you bopping. The vocalist then comes in about 30 seconds later but I don't think his vocals were that impressive, for the mood of the music he could sound mabye slightly louder and more happy and not so raspy.

He dosen't sing for very long and soon after he is finished the piano becomes alot more noticable and instruments follow up with and nice little fill with the guitar mainly leading it with a small solo that wasn't very amazing but just suited the small vocal break very nicley.

After about 45 seconds the vocals come back with another small talk which lasts about 30 seconds like the other one before it. Again the intruments have another fill which is pretty much the same as the one before only slightly longer. The song then justs stays the same like that with a small vocal verse and a instruments fill which gets longer and longer until after about 5 little vocal parts and fills the song go into a long instrument bridge with all the instruments grooving away with the guitar again leading it all.

The song started off well but after a while the song just got repeditive and predicatable. The guitar solos in the in vocal breaks and bridge sounded extactly like the last which made it even more boring and preditable. I tried to appeciate the instrument fills which I did at first but after the 6th bloody time of the same solo and fill anyone could get their patience tested. I wasn't too sure what the voclaists was talking about but after hearing him twice my orginally happy bopping on my computer chair mood was lost.

A song with alot of potential but just didn't quite hit the mark. 6.5/10

Dire Straights - Sultans of Swing (Classic Rock)
Shadows Fall - The Power of I and I (Metalcore)
John Frusicante - Murders (Guitar Instrumental)

CaptainWaits 01-19-2005 06:46 PM

i guess I'll dibs this one

CaptainWaits 01-19-2005 07:22 PM

[U][B]Shadows Fall - Power I and I[/B][/U]

0:00 - 0:55... Standard double-pedal beat with a ordinary riff at the beggining. Singer is great for a metalcore band, but half-good overall. Decent guitar here, good mix between the two.

0:56 - 1:49... Chorus is somewhere in this part. There's response chant in it, stuff I don't overall enjoy. Goes back into the verse, and then to the chorus again.

1:50 - 2:20... Solo starts at about 2 minutes here, it's good and fits, but nothing too special, just a common occurance solo.

2:21 - 3:12... back into the verse and chorus here.

3:13 - 3:38 (end)... back into the beat just after the beggining, which closes the song off.


I've never really been with metalcore, but this song I'd say shows a good side of it. Sounds simliar to KSE and all the metalcore out today, but it's got a bit extra something that the others don't. Pretty good guitars, decent drummer, different kind of vox.

Overall:

7/10


[U][I]Reccommendations:[/I] [/U]

Amon Amarth - Once Sealed in Blood (Melodic/Viking Metal)
Amorphis - Black Winter Day (Death/Doom Metal)
Dragonforce - My Spirit Will Go On (Power Metal)
Primal Fear - Mind Control (Power Metal)
Symphony X - Abscence of Light (Progressive Power Metal)

CaptainWaits 01-19-2005 09:30 PM

*Bump*

killswitchlog 01-19-2005 11:04 PM

dibs. nobody take my dibs. i would appreciate it. expect it within the next 2 hours.

killswitchlog 01-20-2005 12:14 AM

Dragonforce - My Spirit Will Go On

quarter note= 180 ±2 2/9%

0:00-0:06 no sound

0:06-0:26 guitar comes in. he's probably finger-picking the chords he is playing. i like it.

0:26-0:46 metal-core style riffing comes in and sounds like a symphony in the background.

0:46-1:07 rhythm continues w/ what sounds like a dual-lead guitar solo(1). it has a 2nd part without a real break in the middle but still obvious it is foreshadowing the guitar solo(2) that is found a full 3 times in the song.

1:07 silence
1:08-1:28 1st verse vocals come in. traditional metal vocals. onward type vocals. only a little lower pitched. not my favorite. the rhythm still plays of course

1:28-1:38 pre-chorus. same vocals, guitars play more metal-core-ish riffing, with symphony music in the back.

1:38-2:16 this is where the song took a turn for the worse. the vocals became harmonized, worthy of a peter cetera album. i just didn't like the whole scheme of things in the chorus. all though the guitars played well and the symphonic parts sounded great, the whole tone of things and the content and sound of the vocals were just awful. vocals end.

2:16-2:38 guitar solo(2). i'm guessing it's 2 guitars. the solo, out of a 10, i'd give it 10 stars. it wasn't long and drawn out, and went well with the song. it wasn't to fast either. pretty manageable.

2:38-2:58 2nd verse begins. same as above during the 1st verse.

2:58-3:08 pre-chorus

3:08-3:46 chorus. crappy as the first one. vocals end.

3:46-4:08 guitar solo. same as solo at 2:16-2:38.

4:08-4:28 pre-solo material. nice guitar riffing, the orchestral sounds are still good.

4:28-5:02 guitar solo 4(?). it's a fast one. at 4:46 a 2nd guitar comes in. there's not much to compare it to but it's good.

5:02-5:05 not sure about that

5:05-6:22 guitar solo 5(?). really fast guitar solo. good solo and at 5:26 2nd guitar comes end. it seems solos are introduced by one guitar, then harmonized or copied by another guitar at a later time.

6:22-6:42 guitar goes back to rhythm. vocals are going "ohhwo ohhwo oh woh" the whole time. better than nothing but still pretty pathetic. Ironically enough though, i love it.

6:42-7:25 chorus

7:25-7:48 solo(2). actually the 6th solo but for identification purposes i called it 2.

7:48-end. not really a solo. more of a run. probably descending triplets while running up the scale.
ex) 10--8--7--12--10--8--14--12--10
-----\------/---\-------/---\--------/
--------3----------3-----------3-----


song overall: 9.5/10
guitars: 10/10
symphony sounding part: 9/10
vocals/lyrics: 3/10

would i listen to it again? definitely. i'll probably check some more out tomorrow. i'll seriously think about finding a cd. it's the best band i've came across recently

for my suggestions i'm putting links so i'm basically handing it over to you on a silver platter.
suggestions:
Jacknife- How Does It Feel (Texas thrash-type stuff, described as Hatebreed meets KsE) [url]http://www.jacknife.net/media.html[/url] it's there in mp3 format.
Element Eighty- Texas Cries (hard rock) [url]http://www.activerock.neostrada.pl/promo/ElementEighty2ARlistapromo.mp3[/url]

i'd really prefer someone do one of these but i've got more if needed, but because the links are there, it's no prob. there both 3-4 minute songs so not to hard.


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