In metal, I really like Mastodon, excellent band.

[QUOTE=Scabies]Iif everyone listened to cryptic slaughter no punks would hate metal and no metallers would hate punk[/QUOTE]

truth

[QUOTE=Kithkin]I can appreciate Metal for skill, but they don't do anything for me in terms of enjoyment. The way a lot of them play guitar is robotic and clinical and, to me, boring.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. And in metal guitar is overrated. A large percentage of people who listens to metal only cares about the guitar. And from people I know personally that percentage increases to a 100%

I'm a Metal fan more than anything. I love Punk, Jazz, Classical, and Rock (to name a few genres), but Metal is my bread and butter; what I was raised on. Like most every genre of music, you have a lot of crap, a decent amount of decent-good bands, and a few gems. It's just a matter of sifting through the crap to find what you like, eventually you get linked to a bunch of bands you like from that.

As far as the robotic and clinical statement goes; that, to me, would be like saying most Punk bands care more about being simplistic and derivative than writing good songs.

I was raised on metal, but I don't listen to much proper metal anymore.

i like metal when the drums are somewhat fast. i cant stand that pounding boring drumbeat a lot of shi'tty bands constantly use (disturbed, creed, etc)

[QUOTE=Scabies]Iif everyone listened to cryptic slaughter no punks would hate metal and no metallers would hate punk[/QUOTE]
Bands like them, SOD and DRI should be liked by everyone.

Rock in general, no, it's just not my style. Metal I tend to find boring and annoying after a while.

[QUOTE=NewKindofArmy03]Bands like them, SOD and DRI should be liked by everyone.[/QUOTE]

Municipal Waste \m/

also, I listened to Napalm Death's [I]Scum[/I] today, and was completely blown away. There are huge metal influences in that album.

Rock and metal don't suck, they're not my thing.

[QUOTE=Skrunnch]Municipal Waste \m/
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One of my favorite bands, Hazardous Mutation is still album of the year for me. Best live band too.
[QUOTE=Skrunnch]
also, I listened to Napalm Death's [I]Scum[/I] today, and was completely blown away. There are huge metal influences in that album.[/QUOTE]
The last couple things they've done is just metal. I don't really like it either.

I can't stand metal, makes me cringe.

I dont like metal that much, it kind of annoys me. Besides a little Black Sabbath here or there. As for rock, I'll like lots of bands and songs new and old and I also am trying to get into a little Blues

my favourite band's rage against the machine, so i guess i dont have anything against rock, i listen to some slipknot as well. Other r and m bands seem to get boring to me if i listen to them for a fair while, but i can definately say the same about hardcore, i really dont like it. I guess it just depends on musical tastes and if you have preconcieved prejudices regarding those genres.

i love rock and metal...listening to tool at the moment

whats the crowd like at metal shows? i imagine they suck

I like the crowds and atmospheres at metal shows. I am a photographer and I have photographed The haunted and some Victory label bands at my local venue. I think the only real difference between a punk and metal show is how people dress. Everyone still dances violently (but theres no ska bits in metal) and everyone chats and stuff to strangers. I love thrash and death metal soo much. Of course Napalm Death sound metal influenced, Bill Steer who took over guitar after Justin Broadwick was in Carcass (one of my favourite bands).

I love both. I prefer metal though, obviously, otherwise I would be a punk mod. :p

[QUOTE=Superpeer]I love both. [/QUOTE]

Then post here more.

[QUOTE=smokersdieyounger]I like the crowds and atmospheres at metal shows. . . .[/QUOTE]

I go to my fair share of metal shows, and not once have I [i]ever[/i] said, "Man, the crowd was awesome tonight". Metal is one of those unfortunate genres, like mainstream punk, that is deluded and inevitably ruined by its fans.

[QUOTE=smokersdieyounger]I like the crowds and atmospheres at metal shows. I am a photographer and I have photographed The haunted and some Victory label bands at my local venue. [/QUOTE]

They played in my town Spalding a while ago not really my bag though.

Suicidal Tendancies should end this debate.

i dont like anything else apart of punk
i used to listen to some rock but soon got sick of it

led zepp suck

Having always loved music as a whole, I can't say I ever understood why you are what you listen to.

It's stupid, and closes your mind to the wonder that is modern music.

Metal and punk are so closely related in origin that most people forget that. I mean, punk is just rock and roll. Made from the heart pure and free. Some of it anyway. Now a lot of both is crap, and regurgitated from years of bad music. But thats ok.

I love all music. I would never limit myself to a specific genre simply because of stupidity. I remember being this way though. Especially with hardcore. West coast punk was made fun of, as were anything outside of east coast hardcore. I never understood that. I even loved some rap. I still do. It's good stuff. Old school hip hop and punk had a lot in common. Meh.. I always loved classic rock, jazz, fusion, metal, death metal, black metal.. I mean.. It's all good. To limit yourself to just one, especially one like punk, whose ideals and standards are more mythical than religion, you're really just closing your mind.

It's sad. It's one thing to really not like it, but to do it purposely to "keep it real" is the more ignorant thing I've ever heard.

[QUOTE=Laihoistheman]most of those are metalcore arent they? i dunno about NOFX i hear them mentioned all over the place i thought they where punk.[/QUOTE]
I never got why people thought you were so stupid. I do now though. Almost none of the bands I mentioned were metalcore, except Converge and Bridge to Solace, and I really doubt you know of them. You totally missed the point of my post, and you looked really stupid doing it.

When it is original and done well it's good.

[QUOTE=TakeWarning]Then post here more.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Deeboon] Having always loved music as a whole, I can't say I ever understood why you are what you listen to.

It's stupid, and closes your mind to the wonder that is modern music.

Metal and punk are so closely related in origin that most people forget that. I mean, punk is just rock and roll. Made from the heart pure and free. Some of it anyway. Now a lot of both is crap, and regurgitated from years of bad music. But thats ok.

I love all music. I would never limit myself to a specific genre simply because of stupidity. I remember being this way though. Especially with hardcore. West coast punk was made fun of, as were anything outside of east coast hardcore. I never understood that. I even loved some rap. I still do. It's good stuff. Old school hip hop and punk had a lot in common. Meh.. I always loved classic rock, jazz, fusion, metal, death metal, black metal.. I mean.. It's all good. To limit yourself to just one, especially one like punk, whose ideals and standards are more mythical than religion, you're really just closing your mind.

It's sad. It's one thing to really not like it, but to do it purposely to "keep it real" is the more ignorant thing I've ever heard. [/QUOTE]

Amen to that, I listen to pretty much every genre.

I can appreciate most forms of music. The only forms i cannot are the manufactured forms of pop, punk, hip-hop and electonica. All the underground or lesser known forms of those genre's i can appreciate.

There are times when punk just isnt whats needed so i dabble in electronica and metal as well occasionally

most punk i like, some metal i like.... i listen to punk for the message and lyrics and metal for muscianship... i won't not listen to something, i remeber when my dad played jazz i hated it, but that was because was a young and stupid, now i'm old and less stupid

I don't mind Primus, Chevelle, Deftones, QOTSA, Foo Fighters or Alien Ant Farm. Those are the only rock bands I can stand. Metal bands annoy me but I respect them.

[QUOTE=FatPete]I never got why people thought you were so stupid. I do now though. Almost none of the bands I mentioned were metalcore, except Converge and Bridge to Solace, and I really doubt you know of them. You totally missed the point of my post, and you looked really stupid doing it.[/QUOTE]
dam[I]n[/I] that is harsh my brotha

[QUOTE=DBoon's Ghost]Having always loved music as a whole, I can't say I ever understood why you are what you listen to.

It's stupid, and closes your mind to the wonder that is modern music.

Metal and punk are so closely related in origin that most people forget that. I mean, punk is just rock and roll. Made from the heart pure and free. Some of it anyway. Now a lot of both is crap, and regurgitated from years of bad music. But thats ok.

I love all music. I would never limit myself to a specific genre simply because of stupidity. I remember being this way though. Especially with hardcore. West coast punk was made fun of, as were anything outside of east coast hardcore. I never understood that. I even loved some rap. I still do. It's good stuff. Old school hip hop and punk had a lot in common. Meh.. I always loved classic rock, jazz, fusion, metal, death metal, black metal.. I mean.. It's all good. To limit yourself to just one, especially one like punk, whose ideals and standards are more mythical than religion, you're really just closing your mind.

It's sad. It's one thing to really not like it, but to do it purposely to "keep it real" is the more ignorant thing I've ever heard.[/QUOTE]


Best. Grandpappy. Ever

[QUOTE=k1ckthecat]I don't mind Primus, Chevelle, Deftones, QOTSA, Foo Fighters or Alien Ant Farm. Those are the only rock bands I can stand. Metal bands annoy me but I respect them.[/QUOTE]
Not to start a genre war...but how can you say the Deftones aren't Metal? :-\

P.S. In relation to the thread I listen to tons of R&M stuff.

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]Not to start a genre war...but how can you say the Deftones aren't Metal? :-\

P.S. In relation to the thread I listen to tons of R&M stuff.[/QUOTE]
Ehh because I only really like [I]Minerva[/I] and that's not really metal :/

ok, could someone please enunciate on the differences between R&M and Punk for me? and give me some example bands. cuz i thought punk was a branch of rock.

it's my favorite genre, so i definitely don't have anything against it, although i do listen to a bit of punk

[QUOTE=rip-metal_rules]ok, could someone please enunciate on the differences between R&M and Punk for me? and give me some example bands. cuz i thought punk was a branch of rock.[/QUOTE]

Punk bands:
Circle Jerks
Dead Kennedys
Black Flag
The Clash
Strike Anywhere
Jerry's Kids
The Misfits
Adolescents
The Buzzcocks
Conflict
Subhumans
Die Hunns
The Stitches
Smut Peddlers
7 Seconds
The Dead Boys

well ultimately they're all a branch of "rock music"

I like all these genres, though I give preference to metal because it seemed to have greater potential to be complex (mainly prog-metal). Then I realized there are plenty of progressive-ish punk bands too, destroying my bias.

whoever mentioned jazz, go you. jazz rules.

I love Death/80's/Glam-Hair/Black/Thrash Metal just as much as I love Punk/Oi!/Ska(not so much on the Ska though).

I try to branch out though, I'll listen to pretty much anything at least once and even then I generally end up liking it; Classical, Classic Rock, Hard Rock, Heavy Metal, Black Metal, Power Metal, 80's Metal, Thrash Metal, Glam/Hair Metal, Death Metal, Punk, Oi!, Ska, Crust, Jazz, Blues, and a handful of other genres that I spin from time to time.

Punk, Rock, and Metal all suck, Mathcore, Nintendocore, Nardcore, Grindcore, Power Violence, and and C'ock Rock are where its at.

I'm far to into my own music to really care what everyone else is listening to or what they think of the music I do listen to, Cant say I really know what specific genres I listen to, I dont really like to catagorize.