[QUOTE=addicted_tochaos]Sounds of the Underground seems like such a crappy tour. Two good bands and so many mediocre ones. Opeth and SYL dont justify having to sit/stand through all the other bands that wouldnt even make second stage at Ozzfest, which in itself is mainly all about second stage acts now. I'm waiting for the Gigantour.[/QUOTE]
The fact that just about no bands on the tour should be called underground is enough to discount it.

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]The fact that just about no bands on the tour should be called underground is enough to discount it.[/QUOTE]

Hey at least Megadeth and Dream Theater aren't involved.

/curses DEP

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Necroses-bass
I don't mean to be rude or condescending in any way but I feel that you're not a natural writer. Don't take this the wrong way, it's just that I think you have to try harder to create lyrics than some of the other writers in this challenge. But I sense effort was put in this song and the initial idea was decent. The imagery is too bland and doesn't develop into anything really exciting.
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yeah i see what you mean, most of the stuff i write for the challenges forced half hour jobs i haven't got much time to spend on writing cuz i'm promoting bands at the moment together with teaching music, playing in a band myself, and doing all round jobs in the local music business, all that with raising a 2-year old relly leaves you with no time.
but i'm stopping with my band and they're gonna help me with the promotions so i will have more time on my hands.

Man,Necro,sounds like you have your hands full. Have you tried using the 'forced half hour' songs you put up with your band? Its one of the best ways to get your writing act together, forcing the lyrics onto a song. Editing's the only way to work your way out of that, and it sometimes has nice results. Just a thought.

I'm all for diverse musical festivals. I'd probably get whiplash or worse if I had to go to a festival full of just 'core acts. More than likely, hardcore dancing would kill me from laughing.
Feel free to head over to the Songwriting and Lyrics forum and look at my thread in there. I'd link but I'm too lazy.

I couldn't get the deviant page to load, but you're right, the first one does look like its ..bare, without the tints you wanted. Neanderthal? in a box with the world on the border. A subject that never gets old.

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=360980[/url]

[QUOTE=addicted_tochaos]Man,Necro,sounds like you have your hands full. Have you tried using the 'forced half hour' songs you put up with your band? Its one of the best ways to get your writing act together, forcing the lyrics onto a song. Editing's the only way to work your way out of that, and it sometimes has nice results. Just a thought.
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yeah thanks man
my band is officially no more, after the france/belgium tour it was the end, the tour didn't help relations in the band which screwed up the music. so we're stopping and really going for the producing side.
Do suffer from withdrawal symptoms after 3 days without McDonalds

yeah well anyways
Dancin' Man, seems like a few people are bitchin' about your votes and critiques.. oh well I actually didn't see them too harsh because I can stand behind each one of them and see why you thought what you did.. anyways just wanted to back you on that. Everyone quit bitchin' about what someone thinks just roll with the punches.. he thought mine was cheesy and when you think about it.. lol it is.. but hey get over it you got many more chances to make up for it..
and just for subtle on this one I don't think you've been acting like a prick this challenge you just seem fed up with the same shlt from all the same kind of people
anyways good/notsogood reading all your entries I'll try to vote before the time expires

People, let's bury this dead horse and get on with the next challenge. Shall we? If you are stuck to some square policy I understand, but I'm getting old waiting

Tab sites suck, the chords I get to songs never sound right.

Mxtabs rocks though, in case MX is looking.

Yeah, all the chords to the songs I'm getting are just wrong. Now I actually have to listen myself, geez.

Don't use tabs. Use GuitarPro or Tabledit or something.
They're usually more accurate than tabs are and give a better sense of the song.

That or tab the song yourself but in many cases such as mine, I'm too lazy and use mxtabs instead.

[url]www.mysongbook.com[/url] has a fairly decent collection of Guitarpro songs,all tabbed out.

Will anyone upload CTTS - As The Roots Undo for the file sharing thread? I'd be much obliged.

Hey addicted_tochaos I know that the voting isn't due yet, but you missed me in your crits.

addicted to chaos

every political song must start a riot? yea, bob dylan played some really hardcore riot insighting songs, with the double kick bass drumming and the wailing guitars. songs shouldn't be written to formulas, not to mention it's more poetry. and especially not to mention that tom morello was signed to a major record label, made ludicrous amounts of money via capitalism, and now plays in a ****ty commercial rock band.

Alright, my request is in.

The first time I listened to CTTS I didn't think much of them, but I checked them out again today and it was amazing stuff. I guess it's cause I got into Dillinger recently too, so I'm more used to the sort of harmonic disorganization they have going. I love it.

i came across the 'recommendations' thread, i think its quite a good idea, suggestion for the mods: maybe sticky it, it could be usefull later on.

[QUOTE=machinegunfunk]addicted to chaos

every political song must start a riot? yea, bob dylan played some really hardcore riot insighting songs, with the double kick bass drumming and the wailing guitars. songs shouldn't be written to formulas, not to mention it's more poetry. and especially not to mention that tom morello was signed to a major record label, made ludicrous amounts of money via capitalism, and now plays in a ****ty commercial rock band.[/QUOTE]

So true. But a good political song has incitement at its core. Stating stuff without its core deprives it of the soul, to me. I don't necessarily say 'write a song intended to get people to do something' but it must, absolutely must make them 'feel' it enough for them to want to take action, even if only for a minute. That's what I felt was lacking in your piece is all.

RAR, sorry,man. I'll get your crit done right now.

[QUOTE=addicted_tochaos]So true. But a good political song has incitement at its core. Stating stuff without its core deprives it of the soul, to me. I don't necessarily say 'write a song intended to get people to do something' but it must, absolutely must make them 'feel' it enough for them to want to take action, even if only for a minute. That's what I felt was lacking in your piece is all.

RAR, sorry,man. I'll get your crit done right now.[/QUOTE]

alright, i don't necessarily agree with what you're saying, but the thought is much more lucid.

Machinegunfunk - The point is not to challenge every critique you are given. It is to read and understand them because they are there to benefit you.


P.S. making movies is fun. There is a film TA here that reminds me of how I imagine Burt personality wise.

[QUOTE=Dancin' Man]Machinegunfunk - The point is not to challenge every critique you are given. It is to read and understand them because they are there to benefit you.


P.S. making movies is fun. There is a film TA here that reminds me of how I imagine Burt personality wise.[/QUOTE]

i haven't challenged all of them. i have questioned critiques that don't seem to be accurate/enlightening. when your critique is I HATE POLITICAL SONGS RAAAAAAH, well yea, i'm going to confront you on it. as for atc, it seemed as though he was saying that my song didn't fit the criteria for a political song, as laid down by tom morello. i challenged that and he made his point more clear, and now i'm fine with that.

so please, remove thyself from my genitals, if you'd be so kind.

Oh I'm sorry. What I meant to say is you are an idiot. Please excuse my lack of clarity.

bisnotch: i respect the fact that you didn't give me a very good rating because i know that i'm not that good at the whole lyrics aspect of music. But can i please point out to you that its nowhere near 'screaming religious death metal'. its about the end of the world but that doesn't mean its death metal. a major thing that determines death metal is the music. take for example apocalypse please by muse (and my music is in a quite similar style but slightly more gothic), I'm sure no-one would call that death metal (unless you're completely daft) but it's still about the end of the world.

In fact, if every poetic text about the end of the world or mass destruction is screaming death metal i would like to see the day that Seamus Heany or Gillian Clarke pick up a guitar and join cannibal corpse or Dimmu Borgir.

Just to finish, religious death metal? Doesn't that defeat the whole idea behind death metal.

anyway, i respect your views, and agree with the fact that i'm not that good a lyricist but hey the crowds seemed to like them.

[QUOTE=machinegunfunk]i haven't challenged all of them. i have questioned critiques that don't seem to be accurate/enlightening. when your critique is I HATE POLITICAL SONGS RAAAAAAH, well yea, i'm going to confront you on it. as for atc, it seemed as though he was saying that my song didn't fit the criteria for a political song, as laid down by tom morello. i challenged that and he made his point more clear, and now i'm fine with that.

so please, remove thyself from my genitals, if you'd be so kind.[/QUOTE]
It's amazing how you can come here and manage to pretty much piss off everyone.

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]It's amazing how you can come here and manage to pretty much piss off everyone.[/QUOTE]

yup...you and dancin' man. if that's not unanimous i don't know what is. i don't look for trouble, but when people are pompous and condescending, i take affront very quickly. i have real problems with e-tough guys who think that calling people noobs and flaunting their longevity/e-standing on a messageboard makes them awesome. dancin' man's critique is in no way what should be deemed acceptable for a forum concerned with the improvement of songwriters; a supposed audience of peers. his review was rude, sarcastic, caustic, and moreover totally useless and inane, i see nothing wrong in taking offense to it and pointing out the fact that the he was in essence being a douchebag. if people want to critique my writing, by all means go ahead. but when he says, I HATE POLITICAL MUSIC AND SINCE YOU WROTE A POLITICAL POEM YOU'RE A LOSSSSSSSSSER AND YOUR PIECE SUUUUUUCKSSSSSS AHAHA, then he can shove it up his ***, plain and simple.

and towards you, you're not much better. you're extremely condescending, show a tendency towards disparaging "noobs" rather than being a firm, yet guiding hand, and just seem like a dick.

so if i piss you two off, you know what, i don't care.

to the necroses bass: i respect the fact that you respect my opinion. It shows maturity, which seems to lack greatly online and in quite excess in this forum. If I came off as pompous, rude, arrogant, or simple-minded, I deeply apologize. I have a very overly dikheaded way of expressing something I don't like. It's not that your piece was bad, but more the fact that I'm just not into that style I guess. So once again, I apologize. It's nice to see a little sincerity and kindness in this shindig. Keep on keepin' on. I shall see you around brother.

To corupt - No I'm not black. Hated Helen was based on the character Helen from the play The Women Of Troy and this is the one about the KKK. I'm studying lynch mob mentality in psyche class and I find it intriguing from a psychological viewpoint but it is wrong in all aspects. I get a lot of inspiration from that class.

bisnotch: stop bull****ting man you know my piece was ****, i wasn't actually questioning your crit, just questioning the fact that everyone thinks that apocalyptic lyrics have to belong in the death metal genre.

Dfelon: could be quite interesting considering heaney's age

everyone don't remove thyself from machinegunfunk's genitals it is rather amusing