They're decent now, but yes, they sold out.

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]It's not even owning anymore; it's just the truth.[/QUOTE]


Pfff...just sounds like IVY league snobbery to me. Don't forget your roots sunshine boy :D

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]You cited three of the most generic metalcore bands ever: Zao, Hatebreed, and Walls of Jericho. Killswitch Engage just sold out and their new song sounds like a technical version of Hoobustank with screaming. The only really good band you cited in the category of "hardcore" was Unearth. Do you wonder why I'm focusing on your saying we should listen to hardcore? It's because emo [i]is[/i] hardcore. Emo stands for "emotional hardcore" and some of the most ballsy, brutal bands I can think of are emo bands like Circle Takes the Square, pageninetynine, and Kaospilot. Open up your eyes, unless this is somebody making a joke account to mess with me. In that case, just fellate me; you'll probably get a more favorable reaction cum guzzler.[/QUOTE]







soz dudes and dudettes that was my mate abusing my internet (TWAT) Really i haven't got anything towards Emo but i do disagree with u saying emo is hardcore, Emo is music with Meaning I still don't like it but i have no problem with it

[QUOTE=Necroses-bass]scarlet blood dripping from my arse im so sad my arse is bleeding coz ive ran out of tears o why why do u want me to die ahhhh im so emo my arse is bleeding blood gashes from open arse holes i have bowel problems becuase im emo

yes im taking the piss out OF THOSE F*CKING EMO KIDS WHERES THE REAL MUSIC GONE THE CLASH CD'S ARE ONLY 7.99 IN THE SHOPS GO AND LISTEN TO SOME REAL MUSIC WITH MEANING NOT A 13 YEAR OLD BOY WHINING ABOUT THE GIRLFRIEND THAT DUMPED HIM AFTER 2 HOURS BECAUSE HIS ARSE WAS BLEEDING OR LSITEN TO SOME DECENT HARDCORE LIKE UNEARTH OR KILLSWITCH OR HATEBREED OR ZAO OR WALLS OF JERICO OR LISTEN TO SOME REGGAE BUT PLEASE NOT EMO I REALLY COULDNT GIVE A F*CK ABOUT EMO ITS SO **** ALL THOSE BAND NAMES LIKE THE LAST TEAR SHE CRIED OR IM GONNA CUT MYSELF BECUASE ITS COMMERICAL AND COOL THEESE DAYS AHHH WHERES THE MUSIC INDUSTRY GOING EMO IS THE mUSICALEQUIVELENT OF HITLER LIKE IN 6 MONTHs THEY WILL OF ALL CHANGED TO SKA KIDS OR MAYBE JUST MAYBE GROWN OUT OF THAT I GOT DUMPED DLITYY SLITTY PHASE IM SURE SOME WHERE IN AMERICA SOME OLD WHORE MUM WOULD GET AWAY WITH SUEING SOME EMO BAND FOR MAKING HER SON CUT HIMSELF AND THE CUT GO WRONG AND HE DIES ITS MAN SLAUGHTER !!!! THYE MADE HIM TO IT THEY TOLD HIM TO IN THOSE LOVE SONGS KIDS ARE SO IMPRESSIONABLE F*CK I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO CUT UP FUNERAL FOR A FRIEND (IT SHOUDL BE FUNERAL FOR A BLEEDING ARSEHOLE) THOSE C*NTS INFACT IM BOREd OF TYPING NOW SO YER ALL U EMO FAGS FGROW UP AND LISTEN TO REAL MUSIC U STUPID C*NT EYES MOTHER F*CKERS HAHAHAHAA

But yeh thats just my views if u wanna listen to tht sh*t its your choice really[/QUOTE]







everyone pleasse accept my apology these are not my words, a mate decided to abuse my internet.

There is one thing i dont understand why is it a problem for a band to sell out it means they do a good job, its not like they're mainstream or summin

No, selling out would consist of changing a band's typical sound in order to accomidate to the current musical trend.

The current musical trend in hardcore, is complex pop punk with screaming, and K.S.E. has turned into this.

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo]No, selling out would consist of changing a band's typical sound in order to accomidate to the current musical trend.

The current musical trend in hardcore, is complex pop punk with screaming, and K.S.E. has turned into this.[/QUOTE]
Pop metal. I don't know where you're getting punk from.

Pop metal...that just sounds so wrong.

Ugh, KSE's new singer is horrid. The new albums lyrics are horrible too.

AKA nu metal.

I acutally meant to say metal.

I guess I'm a faggot.

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo]No, selling out would consist of changing a band's typical sound in order to accomidate to the current musical trend.

The current musical trend in hardcore, is complex pop punk with screaming, and K.S.E. has turned into this.[/QUOTE]

ok..but how much say does the band have in this? Contracts with record companies who just wanna make bank can be evil documents, no?

Then they are just stupid for not taking the time for reading the fine details.

Maybe they're illiterate?

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger].:..::: .:.:::. .. :.[/QUOTE]

Did you really just type Braille?........


.....That's amazing.

[QUOTE=Disco Dragon]Did you really just type Braille?........


.....That's amazing.[/QUOTE]
It's an inside joke.

By the way, "scarlet" has payed off on word choice, no one's used it near as emo-esque as even I expected.

pop metal? hmmm sounds like a contradictory to me

pop-punk is more of a contradictory term, considering the foundation of punk music is anti-conformity.

pop-metal is really just nu-metal... which isnt really metal anyway.

[quote]No, selling out would consist of changing a band's typical sound in order to accomidate to the current musical trend.

The current musical trend in hardcore, is complex pop punk with screaming, and K.S.E. has turned into this.[/quote]

maybe that's what they LIKE to play, and intended to play all this time.
i don't like hardcore per se, but if they play it, the probably enjoy it and thats not selling out. or you could just copy-paste tool lyrics for hooker with a pen*s to explain my point.

meh, whatever.

[QUOTE=d0ped0g]pop-punk is more of a contradictory term, considering the foundation of punk music is anti-conformity.

pop-metal is really just nu-metal... which isnt really metal anyway.[/QUOTE]

yay. thx runapok for inspiring me to think about confomity
i was so sure i'd have no song to enter for this challenge

thinking about it. the title was actually quite contradictory "rise against rebellion". But that was intentional.

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Nah dude. Emo really is hardcore. Example: [url]www.hxcmp3.com/bands/1710[/url][/QUOTE]
there are sum really hardcore emo bands which are cool, but i tend not to go for a specific style in music as long as it sounds good.

and still A LOT(not all) of emo is soft pathetic bollocks in my opinion

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]Pop metal. I don't know where you're getting punk from.[/QUOTE]


Pop stands for Popular song and Metal IS and will remain a complex More talented popular style.
The confusion starts at the question: metal and rock are not popular styles. but they were in when they started, i'm afraid to say that if there won't be major changes in the alternative gategory (Take sikth for example) metal will go on doing what its doing; dying out.

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Clearly you don't know how to do that listening thing if you think metal is dying out. Bands that proove you wrong:

Dillinger Escape Plan
Kayo Dot
The Number Twelve Looks Like You
Maudlin of the Well
Between the Buried and Me[/QUOTE]


just saying the metal scene is unfortunately decreasing in size at the moment (dunno about america but in europe it is).

and please don't try and put me down by saying i can't do stuff because its a waste of time.

[quote]Those emo bands that you think are soft pathetic bollocks are just not emo bands. To be emo you must be hardcore because emo means "emotional hardcore." Are these cunty soft bands hardcore? No. Therefore, they surely cannot be emotional hardcore, or shortened, emo.[/quote]

quoted for truth.
its annoying that whenever you play a softer song, people go 'oh,man, you're playing emo again'.

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]Do you mean Morse Code?[/QUOTE]
.. .-. . -. -.- --.

That's Morse code.

^---Or The Fall of Troy. I signed up for their mailing list to get info on future shows and new song information about 3 months ago, and still haven't received anything... the jerks. They are still amazing though.

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]But braille is more complex that what was typed. Weird. Whatever.

How about that Trophy Scars. I think I'll be able to see them live again this summer. Hot poop on a stick.[/QUOTE]
I know it's more complex, but you can't get a period on top without using a colon so I had to make due.

And yes, that's supposed to be as dirty as it sounds.

^^Hehe, you said "colon" and "period" in the same sentence. If that's not dirty talk, then I just don't know what is.

On that note as well...

"That's enough dirty talk, now let's walk funky..."

Trophy Scars makes me happy.

I bought the blue shirt they sell Dfelon. The one with the little girl on it.