Cipher Hour: That was an excellent summary of one of my favorite bands. My rep won't be a lot, but it's teh thought that counts, right?

That has got to be the most comprehensive and most thoroughly researched biography of Guns N' Roses I have ever seen.

Well done, well done.

[QUOTE=Amirite]That has got to be the most comprehensive and most thoroughly researched biography of Guns N' Roses I have ever seen.

Well done, well done.[/QUOTE]

Heh, thanks. You're not gonna get anything better when it comes to finding out what has been going on with the new Guns N' Roses since 2002. I pretty much summed it up.

[QUOTE=ultimaterocker]gn'r has been dead ever since they lost slash. imo he was more important to the band then axl rose[/QUOTE]

Slash Duff and Axl IMO.

Without all 3 of that holy trinity its not GnR.

[QUOTE=RockerGav]Slash Duff and Axl IMO.

Without all 3 of that holy trinity its not GnR.[/QUOTE]

Izzy, Axl and maybe slash.
The drummers are esaily intechangable, they could've easily survived without Duff, and depending on who they got instead, could maybe have got away without Slash.

[QUOTE=RockerGav]Slash Duff and Axl IMO.

Without all 3 of that holy trinity its not GnR.[/QUOTE]

Izzy is just as important as those three as far as songwriting is concerned.

gnr died when izzy left. Axl and Izzy were childhood friends and old bandmates, the chemistry of gnr started there. When that original chemistry was gone, everything went downhill.

[QUOTE=Cipher Hour]Izzy is just as important as those three as far as songwriting is concerned.[/QUOTE]

thank you.

[QUOTE=Trooper]He should give up on Guns N' Roses.
There isn't anyone of the classic line-up left and even people who have made large contributions to this album have left.
Yes he should release the album but under a different band name. It is no-where near GnR anymore.[/QUOTE]

Good Man :thumb:

Great job. GnR is some cool stuff. Nice to know a little more about them.

[QUOTE=Cipher Hour]Heh, thanks. You're not gonna get anything better when it comes to finding out what has been going on with the new Guns N' Roses since 2002. I pretty much summed it up.[/QUOTE]
Would you happen to have an MP3 of Izzy Stradlin's "Sweet Caress" - I've been looking everywhere for it, and I don't have $30 to shell out for an import just yet.

and I think that a fan or a fanatic already knew what you said (to threadstarter) lol

great thread alot of info guns rock

[QUOTE=groomits]and I think that a fan or a fanatic already knew what you said (to threadstarter) lol[/QUOTE]

So what? These threads are for people unfamiliar with the band for the most part.

[QUOTE=Cipher Hour]So what? These threads are for people unfamiliar with the band for the most part.[/QUOTE]
Just in case you didn't see:

Do you have the mp3 of "Sweet Caress" by Izzy Stradlin'?

[QUOTE=RockerGav]Slash Duff and Axl IMO.

Without all 3 of that holy trinity its not GnR.[/QUOTE]



i dont c how you could compare duff to slash. i realize that duff was a very good songwriter but people identified gn'r with slash not duff. slash was so different and had such a signature guitar style that couldnt be replaced. gn'r wouldnt be in this mess if slash would have stayed in the band i believe

[QUOTE=ultimaterocker]i dont c how you could compare duff to slash. i realize that duff was a very good songwriter but people identified gn'r with slash not duff. slash was so different and had such a signature guitar style that couldnt be replaced. gn'r wouldnt be in this mess if slash would have stayed in the band i believe[/QUOTE]
Izzy has a unique songwriting style that helped churn out some of GnR's best songs - so I don't see how people keep forgetting about him as being an essential to the band, just because they could tour with Gilby.

Duff is an amazing bass player who helps provide the backbone to some of GnR's music. The fact is, you really need all the original members to make GnR, it's not just about Slash. Even though Slash, Duff, and Matt are all in Velvet Revolver, they are definitely not GnR. Which just goes to show you that GnR is more than just the sum of its parts.

[QUOTE=Amirite]Just in case you didn't see:

Do you have the mp3 of "Sweet Caress" by Izzy Stradlin'?[/QUOTE]

Nah, I don't have the mp3 unfortunately. I find it hard to get my hands on his stuff a lot because these stupid record stores only sell ****.

[QUOTE=Cipher Hour]Nah, I don't have the mp3 unfortunately. I find it hard to get my hands on his stuff a lot because these stupid record stores only sell ****.[/QUOTE]
Yea, and unfortunately, this album was only released in Japan, which makes it that much harder to find.

Ive been trying to find some Izzy stuff but couldnt.

is there any other guns and roses live cds then the 91-93 (i could be wrong on the title but u know what i mean)

Not really. GnR Lies is the closest you'll get to more material "live". You could try some of the Hollywood Rose stuff (Axl and Izzy).

thats too bad, that was a great cd, and i'd like to find them doing cival war live

[QUOTE=HempKnight]thats too bad, that was a great cd, and i'd like to find them doing cival war live[/QUOTE]

Try some of their concert DVDs then. Either that or bootlegs.

did they not release a live album after appite sorry 4 da spellin i will find the name

hey my mates think that gun n roses died after slash, duuf and izzy left i argue my case but they always finsh wit this ' they are nt good anymore as the cant even release a nu album and wen it comes out then we might believe you' (directed at me) wen is chinese democy cumin out?

wow youve wrote a lot but you cant just write one simple sentence about a legendary band can u :) so well done 2 u, and i mean that in a nice way :lol:

[QUOTE=Cipher Hour]Not really. GnR Lies is the closest you'll get to more material "live". You could try some of the Hollywood Rose stuff (Axl and Izzy).[/QUOTE]

Lies is not LIVE. IT was taped in the studio and they added in fake crowd noise. I have the songs from lies without the crowd noise in the back ground.

Dude, GNR sux now!!! Axl has dug his own grave...and it's getting deeper...

[QUOTE=davelanger]Lies is not LIVE. IT was taped in the studio and they added in fake crowd noise. I have the songs from lies without the crowd noise in the back ground.[/QUOTE]

When did I say that Lies was live? I said it was the closest thing you'll get to live. You people take things way too literally.