[QUOTE=Medopalis]I really like that song...it's definitely one of the angriest things they ever recorded I think, although the solo is outrageously out of place, especially compared with the mood of the rest of the song. I think it's a near perfect album though, although if I had to pick a weakest song on there, it probably would be Township Rebellion.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough. Settle For Nothing isn't bad by any means, it just always paled in comparison for me.

[QUOTE=Bartender] I think the only song I would change/remove from the self-titled would be Settle For Nothing. Not sure why, it just sounds kinda lacklustre compared to the others, and never really appealed to me as much.[/QUOTE]

I couldn't agree more. Every song on there is great, but Settle for Nothing is just okay. I'm listening to it right now, and it's just incredibly slow, but the lyrics are actually quite good.

"If ignorance is bliss, then knock the smile of my face"

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]Well someone should make an official RATM thread (hint, hint)[/QUOTE]
If this thread was constantly popular and reached a certain amounts of posts I reckon it could be turned into an official thread :thumb:

[QUOTE=Medopalis]I really like that song...it's definitely one of the angriest things they ever recorded I think, although the solo is outrageously out of place, especially compared with the mood of the rest of the song. I think it's a near perfect album though, although if I had to pick a weakest song on there, it probably would be Township Rebellion.[/QUOTE]
Settle For Nothing is a good song, but I must say that it does seem out of place when compared to the other songs in the album.

[QUOTE=shortass]If this thread was constantly popular and reached a certain amounts of posts I reckon it could be turned into an official thread :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Official threads don't come around as a result of a long-running or popular thread on a band, but when there are far too many threads on the band in general. For example, the first Official thread (Metallica) came about mid-2003 because of the flood of St Anger stuff.

[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]I'd say that their debut album would be my favorite album of theirs. Every song on there has something different about it that I like. My favorite song off of the S/T is probably "Take the Power Back." That solo is just so friggen cool, because it shows that Morello can put together a good shred solo, not just using his wah pedal.

What do you guys think of "Township Rebellion?" I think that song is awesome, because not only do I like the insturmental parts, but it's one of the few RATM songs where I actually appreciate Zack's rapping. Plus, the bass sounds like a digereedoo. (sp?)[/QUOTE]


I can't believe someone actually mentioned that song, i love that song and nobody mentions it.....


I like their S-T the best then BOLA.

My favorite song is Sleep now in the fire and then Wake up.


I like Audioslave, but i think a reunion is in order for Rage.

Man i love Rage.

[QUOTE=DekWannaBFlea]I can't believe someone actually mentioned that song, i love that song and nobody mentions it.....


I like their S-T the best then BOLA.

My favorite song is Sleep now in the fire and then Wake up.


I like Audioslave, but i think a reunion is in order for Rage.

Man i love Rage.[/QUOTE]
A renunion is in order? We would all like that, but I doubt that it is going to happen....

[QUOTE=Bartender]I like Township Rebellion. I think the only song I would change/remove from the self-titled would be Settle For Nothing. Not sure why, it just sounds kinda lacklustre compared to the others, and never really appealed to me as much.[/QUOTE]

It took me so long to get into Township Rebellion. I always thought it was too slow and just all around boring. Plus the solo in that sounds too much like Settle for Nothing to me.

[QUOTE=superfascist]It took me so long to get into Township Rebellion. I always thought it was too slow and just all around boring. Plus the solo in that sounds too much like Settle for Nothing to me.[/QUOTE]
Township Rebellion rocks. I fell in love with that song as soon as I heard the chorus. Its just slow and badass.

Zack's rapping isn't what I listen to RATM for. His work somehow sounds forced, but on Township Rebellion, the words just "flow" out of his mouth.

Allright, I need some help here. I just watched "Dodgeball" and near the end of the movie, they play a clip of a song that I'm fairly certain is RATM. If anyone knows, or can find out for me, it would be much appreciated.

[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]Zack's rapping isn't what I listen to RATM for. His work somehow sounds forced, but on Township Rebellion, the words just "flow" out of his mouth.

Allright, I need some help here. I just watched "Dodgeball" and near the end of the movie, they play a clip of a song that I'm fairly certain is RATM. If anyone knows, or can find out for me, it would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Really? Now I'm gonna go and rent that movie to see if RATM was in it. That movie rocks anyways, so why not?!

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]Really? Now I'm gonna go and rent that movie to see if RATM was in it. That movie rocks anyways, so why not?![/QUOTE]

It's the last dodgeball game. I am really positive it's RATM. The drumming sounds like Wilk, the guitar sounds like Morello. It's very easy to tell Morello's playing from anyone elses due to the extreme use of effects.

What do you guys think of Morello's playing from album to album. On the S/T, he did a great job mixing his use of effects and his playing ability, but on Evil Empire, I think he relied on his effects a little too much. On Battle, he went in between the two previous albums as far as effects and playing.

His signature toggle maneuver is what stands out for me about his playing.

Saliva ripped it off in the title track to their album "Survival of the Sickest." It sounds like crap. :D At least I think that's what's going on during the intro...

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]A renunion is in order? We would all like that, but I doubt that it is going to happen....[/QUOTE]


what i mean i wish their was a reunion, my bad.

[QUOTE=superfascist]It took me so long to get into Township Rebellion. I always thought it was too slow and just all around boring. Plus the solo in that sounds too much like Settle for Nothing to me.[/QUOTE]


I always shake my head when i hear the Township Rebellion solo, it is so cool!It is kind of Middle-Eastern sounding. I love that stuff :thumb:

^^yeh, but not as cool as bulls on parade

there is a cow bell in that township rebellion song right
i love cow bells there the sweetest
it took me a while to get into the song
but its sweet
love that cow bell

[QUOTE=RageAgainsttheBush]there is a cow bell in that township rebellion song right
i love cow bells there the sweetest
it took me a while to get into the song
but its sweet
love that cow bell[/QUOTE]

lol ++Rep for you.

THe Cow bell is awesome, it fits that song perfectly and it gives it that feeling of a rural area. Gotta love the cow bell.


I don't think they use it in any other song, but i could be wrong.

i think ratm best album is probably s/t but what is your favourite song of theirs?

[QUOTE=Bartender]Official threads don't come around as a result of a long-running or popular thread on a band, but when there are far too many threads on the band in general. For example, the first Official thread (Metallica) came about mid-2003 because of the flood of St Anger stuff.[/QUOTE]
Oh right
Thanks for clearing that up :thumb:

I love his lyrics. You get a real sense of the passion and emotion that he puts into his work from them, but I think too many people are too quick to discard them because they're too political, or because he raps

best lyricist of the '90s...although chris cornell is up there.

[QUOTE=DekWannaBFlea]lol ++Rep for you.

THe Cow bell is awesome, it fits that song perfectly and it gives it that feeling of a rural area. Gotta love the cow bell.


I don't think they use it in any other song, but i could be wrong.[/QUOTE]

I think they do use it on more than one song...Yeah, Im listening to the S/T right now and Wilk uses one for the intro of Killing in the Name. It's only a little two second fill, but it's still there.

EDIT: BTW, the RATM song on "Dodgeball" has a cowbell in it. Still don't know what song it is. :upset:

[QUOTE=Animosity_62]^^yeh, but not as cool as bulls on parade[/QUOTE]
The bulls on parade solo is cool, yes, but it is rather simple. It is just Morello scraping the strings up and down so it sounds like a turntable. The coolest solo that Morello ever did was the Know Your Enemy solo, that thing rocks!

[url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364725/soundtrack[/url]

"Face off" performed and written by Tom Morello. I knew it :D

Well its not RATM, but close enough.....

What are some lesser known or underrated RATM tracks that are good?, I need to find more RATM songs than just the popular ones...

[QUOTE=Lateralias]What are some lesser known or underrated RATM tracks that are good?, I need to find more RATM songs than just the popular ones...[/QUOTE]

Try Township Rebellion, Take the Power Back, Vietnow!, Revolver, Sleep now in the Fire, and Ashes in the Fall. If by lesser known you mean not singles, then there you go.

What do you guys think of Brad Wilk as a drummer? I think him and Morello are a great duo. The drumming compliments Morello's work greatly. One track that I really like as far as Wilk's work is Vietnow! I think it's a really underrated track.

[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]Try Township Rebellion, Take the Power Back, Vietnow!, Revolver, Sleep now in the Fire, and Ashes in the Fall. If by lesser known you mean not singles, then there you go.

What do you guys think of Brad Wilk as a drummer? I think him and Morello are a great duo. The drumming compliments Morello's work greatly. One track that I really like as far as Wilk's work is Vietnow! I think it's a really underrated track.[/QUOTE]

Thanks kombucha, I kinda already knew of all those songs except Ashes in the Fall but I'll check it out...

Brad Wilk isn't anything special as a drummer, but he definitely isn't another easily forgotten drummer. I can agree with you on the connection and pairing of Wilk's drumming to Morello's guitar, he creates some good grooves for some RATM songs.

Sleep Now In The Fire was a well known track, there was a video for it. A really good unknown track would be No Shelter. Another one would also be Wind Below.

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]Sleep Now In The Fire was a well known track, there was a video for it. A really good unknown track would be No Shelter. Another one would also be Wind Below.[/QUOTE]

No Shelter is a great more obscure RATM song... I recommend any Rage fans who haven't heard it to check it out. :thumb: