[QUOTE=bball_1523]Does he have any other variety? I've bearly heard him sweep, bearly hear him playing mind-boggling arps, bearly hear him doing tapping stuff...[/QUOTE]

Legato technique - the start of the Lie solo and the unison on In The Name Of God
Tapping - This Dying Soul's first solo and, again, the Lie solo
Sweeps & arpeggios - Endless Sacrifice, In The Name Of God, Under A Glass Moon, Beyond This Life, The Glass Prison (those arpeggios :amaze: )

In fact, his best 'show off' solo is Under A Glass Moon, where he used practically every single guitar technique known to man.

[QUOTE=Sugar Chestnut]I only heard of them very recently from someone from this site. I bought their ?latest?, Train of Thought... I love it... very long songs but they somehow hold my attention cuz theyre amazing. But im wondering if buying their latest album was horribly wrong of me and if their others are tons more amazing than train of though. What else is good?[/QUOTE]
This was a good move but this album is heavier than their previous releases. Go get Scenes from a memory or Six degrees of inner turbulence

I challenge anyone who rips on petrucci to watch his rock discipline dvd then say bad stuff. He seems so much better than he shows in dream theater. if he went all out on everything i think that everyone that hears it would instantly pinch loaf

i have 6 dream theater albums and they are my favorite band. im also a metallica fan. metallica is only a pimple on DT's butt though. i have "when dream and day unite" "images and words" "awake" "falling into infinity" "scenes from a memory" "6 degrees of inner turbulence" and "train of thought". lyrically i think scenes from a memory was best but my favorite all around is either when dream and day unite or awake. i suggest getting all their stuff cuz there amazing

[QUOTE=Ripper22]Jeez, chill out. I wasn't calling you names or anything. I thought what he did on As I Am was tap harmonics, working off of my memory of the song's transcription in Guitar World a few months back. That's all. I'll concede that I may be wrong, but not if you pounce on me like that again. Alright?[/QUOTE]

I never pounced on you. Maybe i should've used a random smiley to indicate that. I meant it with no Malice. :)

Now, as for the guy who asked which DT album is best to start on: I say Images And Words. It's how they started and out and defined themselves. Scenes From A Memory was a new beginning for them, a big leap in their style. It'd be best to listen to what gave them their base first. But, i wouldn't dare say IAW is better. ;)

Oh, and to whoever asked: I love LaBrie's voice. With so much crap out there, its nice to hear a metal band with a singer who SINGS instead of grunts and yells like a pubescent moron. Probably the most moving piece vocally of DT's would have to be Space Dye Vest. I can't count how many times that song almost made me cry...and then i sat down and READ the lyrics.... That song is nothing short of a triumph.

Quebec i'm just wondering, which solo are you talking about in "Lie"? If im not mistaken there's two solos in there.

Oh and my favorite CD I have by them would be Awake.

Here's something we rarely hear about:

When Dream And Day Unite. I've not heard much publicly about this album. I've listened to it, and it's pretty good. Opinions anyone?

I actually don't think i've heard any songs from it. Could you name a few?

[QUOTE=iamnicktheguitarist]I challenge anyone who rips on petrucci to watch his rock discipline dvd then say bad stuff. He seems so much better than he shows in dream theater. if he went all out on everything i think that everyone that hears it would instantly pinch loaf[/QUOTE]


I have it, it hasn't blown me away other than his fast alternate picking.

[QUOTE=The Depressed]Legato technique - the start of the Lie solo and the unison on In The Name Of God
Tapping - This Dying Soul's first solo and, again, the Lie solo
Sweeps & arpeggios - Endless Sacrifice, In The Name Of God, Under A Glass Moon, Beyond This Life, The Glass Prison (those arpeggios :amaze: )

In fact, his best 'show off' solo is Under A Glass Moon, where he used practically every single guitar technique known to man.[/QUOTE]

his tapping is alright, but his legato is pretty good. I still hear more quick sweeps like an up sweep or down sweep, rather than a full on arpeggio sweep like micheal angelo or jason becker might do. He's still a great guitarist and has alternate picking down like its nothing, but he doesn't excite me with his solos other than the superspeed alt. picking, which makes me wanna be like him in that category lo.

[QUOTE=Scythe404]Here's something we rarely hear about:

When Dream And Day Unite. I've not heard much publicly about this album. I've listened to it, and it's pretty good. Opinions anyone?[/QUOTE]
Were did you find that? I can't find it anywhere! The only song I've heard was The Ytse Jam, and that is a **** god song.

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]Were did you find that? I can't find it anywhere! The only song I've heard was The Ytse Jam, and that is a **** god song.[/QUOTE]
its their first cd..not that hard to find if you look hard enough.

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]Were did you find that? I can't find it anywhere! The only song I've heard was The Ytse Jam, and that is a **** god song.[/QUOTE]

Well you'll have bad luck finding it at an HMV or some other crappy store, but go to a dedicated, smaller record store and you can find anything.

[QUOTE=Cant Touch This]Quebec i'm just wondering, which solo are you talking about in "Lie"? If im not mistaken there's two solos in there.

Oh and my favorite CD I have by them would be Awake.[/QUOTE]
There's a break in lie. the solo right after the break.

[QUOTE=Scythe404]Here's something we rarely hear about:

When Dream And Day Unite. I've not heard much publicly about this album. I've listened to it, and it's pretty good. Opinions anyone?[/QUOTE]
The ytse jam is one of their best instrumental if you ask me.

[quote]Well you'll have bad luck finding it at an HMV or some other crappy store, but go to a dedicated, smaller record store and you can find anything.[/quote]

There's no small record stores around my area unfortunately. So I guess I have to resort to Amazon for my non-mainstream albums.

[QUOTE=Scythe404]Here's something we rarely hear about:

When Dream And Day Unite. I've not heard much publicly about this album. I've listened to it, and it's pretty good. Opinions anyone?[/QUOTE]

Yea I love The Killing Hand and Ytse Jam but overall it's a pretty weak album. For those people who think JLB sings to high, wait till you hear Charlie!

Yeah, I got When dream and Day Unite off Amazon, I love it

Is A Change Of Seasons good? I'm thinking of getting it next.

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Is A Change Of Seasons good? I'm thinking of getting it next.[/QUOTE]

The reason to get A Change of Seasons, IMO, is really for the song. Some people might find those medleys that make up the rest of the album awesome, but I don't. They're good songs but I don't like hearing Dream Theater do them.

[QUOTE=bball_1523]I don't know why, but whenever I hear any petrucci solo, it's always alternate picking. Does he have any other variety? I've bearly heard him sweep, bearly hear him playing mind-boggling arps, bearly hear him doing tapping stuff...

Hey I think he's one of the fastest alternate pickers out there, but I find his solos a bit boring honestly. Shed some light on me DT fans, I wanna hear some more petrucci solos that have more variety then what I've heard in "images and words, awake, and SFAM."[/QUOTE]

the solo in "under a glass moon" is awsome. petrucci shows that he has mastered every trick in the book :thumb:

And also, whats boring about fast alternate picking??? i personally think it makes for a great solo, eg "as i am"'s solo is pretty much nothing but alternate picking the whole way through, but thats an awsome solo - fits the song perfectly ( i especially love when the rhytm section go back into the main, quicker riff - petrucci goes nuts :chug: )

I don't know how many times I've said this to people, but the solo from the live version of Beyond This Life off of the Budokahn(sp?) cd/dvd is the most amazing guitar playing I have ever heard. He puts everthing he knows into that solo, including playing as fast as humanly possible and what looks to be on the dvd sweep tapping. I still can't belive that solo, I have been in awe since the time i heard it, its crazy.

[QUOTE=Ripper22]Once again, all you crazy defensive fans out there... take a chill pill. If you're so brittle that you'll snap at the slightest criticism, I'm afraid [I]you[/I] can shut up and go soak your head in a bucket of ice water. Either that or you can feel free to debate with me about ToT and maybe try and modify my opinion a little bit, or maybe explain to me why it is you think that the solos on ToT are heads and shoulders above everything he's ever done. Short of that, I would appreciate it if you gave me a break. I am a huge DT fan. I have Dream Theater's entire discography save "When Dreams and Day Unite," and ToT is the first album I've disliked. In that post, I was referencing my dislike of that album not because I wanted to piss people off, but as a way to explain why the solo I cited ("Truth" from "An Evening With..."etc.) had such a huge impact on me. It calmed my ToT-caused fear that DT had lost the capability to make that sort of ethereal music that I love. I may have chosen my words a bit carelessly and harshly. I apologize. But, in all honesty, there is absolutely no call for you to be so hotheaded. If you want me to shut up, don't [I]tell[/I] me to shut up. Instead, [I]make[/I] me. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Dude.... calm down, i didn't mean to offend you, it just get's a little annoying when people repeat the same opinions over and over again.

let's talk about something else, Who'se got the coolest hair in the band?

first cd: images and words
second: scenes froma memory
third: six degrees of inner turbulance
fourth: fallign into infinity
fifth: awake
sixth: train of thought

and i can proudly say that every single cd was worth every single penny and all six that i have at the moment blow me away everytime i plop them into my cd player . . .

As I Am is my favourite song.

Mine is a love-hate relationship with Dream Theater. I definetly recognize that they've had a substantial impact on the course of music, but I don't know if it's really for the better. Sometimes, they really hit it well (Pull Me Under, Dissapear, Glass Prison, parts of Erotomania), whereas at other points, they just drive me nuts. I think it's mostly Portnoy that does it....the man really has no concept of groove or feel, it's incredibly flat and uninspiring. Although some of his patterns are interesting, nothing about [i]how[/i] he plays them really strikes me. I feel like the whole band is capable of alot, they just....don't apply themselves very well all of the time.

In the "what makes a good band thread," I mentioned that group interactions is what really gets me going, but I don't feel this from DT. Often, the musicians are too focused within themselves, they don't breach the gap especially well. Every so often something interesting will come along, but so often it's just "here's a cool guitar part!" "here's a cool drum beat and some fills" "here's an invisible bassline" "here's a bunch of awesome keyboard stuff" "every 5 minutes I'll sing something!", and they put everything together expecting it to work, but it just...doesn't.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Mine is a love-hate relationship with Dream Theater. I definetly recognize that they've had a substantial impact on the course of music, but I don't know if it's really for the better. Sometimes, they really hit it well (Pull Me Under, Dissapear, Glass Prison, parts of Erotomania), whereas at other points, they just drive me nuts. I think it's mostly Portnoy that does it....the man really has no concept of groove or feel, it's incredibly flat and uninspiring. Although some of his patterns are interesting, nothing about [i]how[/i] he plays them really strikes me. I feel like the whole band is capable of alot, they just....don't apply themselves very well all of the time.

In the "what makes a good band thread," I mentioned that group interactions is what really gets me going, but I don't feel this from DT. Often, the musicians are too focused within themselves, they don't breach the gap especially well. Every so often something interesting will come along, but so often it's just "here's a cool guitar part!" "here's a cool drum beat and some fills" "here's an invisible bassline" "here's a bunch of awesome keyboard stuff" "every 5 minutes I'll sing something!", and they put everything together expecting it to work, but it just...doesn't.[/QUOTE]

I can definitely see that. If anybody has any rapport, though, it's Petrucci and Rudess, who smile at the other's solos. But the rest of the band is totally dead. And Portnoy is very egotistical and not that good at all, in terms of interesting beats. Technically he's very capable, but Tool pwns DT any day of the week for organic songs.

[QUOTE=god_hates_us_all]As I Am is my favourite song.[/QUOTE]


LOL :-*





The Glass Prison is the worst thing DT has ever done. /random

No... It's... Not.

It's the best **** song ever!
What's wrong with you?!!!

Worst. Song. Ever.