Thanks SFK, has anyone heard passenger by the deftones? It features maynard and sounds cool :thumb:

Yeah...Passenger is a good song.

Finally it's official.

[B]TheLorax42 [/B] I wouldn't say its fair to say "here is the deal" and dictate to us what the songs definatly mean because basically you say so, your missing the point of self expresion and self interpretation, and i thought that was half of tools message? :D

SFK, I'd like to thank you for the "official" on my thread. I'm very appreciative.. I felt I had put in some good hours putting my thoughts into text. :thumb: and by you making it official proves to me that what I & everyone else wrote actually had meaning. Id like to thank everyone that has replied, and everyone that repiles in the future.

I ask since this is "official" lets try to keep the bullsh*t at bare minimum, in other words no spamming, or just being a plain jack@ss. Lets keep this thread clean & informative. Lets make this a TOOL (no pun intended) not a waste of space.

Once again thanks to all that has contributed.....

:evil:

[QUOTE=christonastick]

By the way great thread ToolOwnsYou :thumb:[/QUOTE]

thanks! :thumb:

welp, since this has now changed to an all around tool-related thread. I thought id upload a picture of my signed cd and demo poster for you all to slobber over my Danny Carey autograph I got this at the 6/18/04 Show in San Francisco, CA. (not forgetting I ran ito Mike Patton (Faith no More, Mr Bungle) that same night!! got his autograph too!) enjoy. :lol:

Welp here it is, Plus the autographs of the rest of the band (which are totally f*cking cooL!) Pigmy Love Circus, DC's side project. check em out if you havent already. I got to hang out with all the guys (besides danny) for almost 2hrs in the cold waiting for danny to quiting visitin with a friend, then finally he came out and I was the only fan left outside. got to chat for about 2mins, got his autograph, shook his hand and left. They were all very cool dudes..

*my girlfriend framed all the pieces for me, if any of you care*

** you gotta laugh at Mike Savage's (Vocals) Autograph.. "Kill Brittany [Spears] For me...hahah very cool dude. **

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/gfabre/gregs004.jpg[/IMG]

[b]Tool - Lateralus[/b]

[b][i]I think this song is about seeing deeper, and looking past the boarderline of everything. To really stop seeing things as good or bad/black and white. But to also seem them in variety[/i][/b]

[b]Black then white are
all I see
in my infancy
red and yellow
then came to be
reaching out to me... Let's me see... [/b]

He is saying that in his early stages of life, he only saw things as good or bad, but then he started to see things with color, and this new reaility called for him.

[b]As below so above and beyond I imagine
Drawn beyond the lines of reason
Push the envelope... Watch it bend. [/b]

Baisically, the more you push things, more possible things become.

[b]Over thinking, over anaylyzing,
separtes the body from the mind...
Withering my intution
Missing opportunites
and I must...
Feed my will to feel my moment!
drawn [/b]

Baisically, if you start to over think things then your body and mind become limited, and you'll miss out on things. To fix this you must have a reason to learn more, and grow

[b]Black then white are
all I see
in my infancy
red and yellow
then came to be
reaching out to me... Let's me see... [/b]

Same as first time this was said

[b]There is so much more that beckons me
to look threw to these infinite possibilities! [/b]

There is so much to life, and if you are willing to see it, then you will have no limits. If you can dream it, you can do it.

[b]As below so above and beyond I imagine
Drawn beyond the lines of reason
Push the envelope... Watch it bend. [/b]

Again, the more you push your mind and open up, the more things become possible

[b]Over thinking, over anaylyzing,
separtes the body from the mind...
Withering my intuition
leaving opportunites behind! [/b]

Same as before.

[b]Feed my will to feel this moment!
urging me to cross the lines.... [/b]

The more you learn, the more you are compelled to learn more. It urges you along.

[b]Reaching out to embrace the random!
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come! [/b]

Be prepared for everything, and embrace it, love it. Live it up.

[b]Come embrace my desire to...
come embrace my desire to...
Feel the rythm to...
feel connected... enough to stand beside and...
weep like a widow to...
feel inspired to...
fathom the power to...
witness the beauty to...
bathe in the fountain to...
swing on the spiral...
To
Swing on the spiral
To................. [/b]

You gotta connect with your mind, connect on a higher level. If you accept it, and are willing to learn, then you move onto a higher level of knowledge. Life is a spiral.

[b]Swing on the spiral of our divinty
and still be a human.............! [/b]

If you are ready, willing, and capable of moving to another stage of life then you will reach divinty, but you will still be human

[b]With my feet upon the ground
I lose myself between the sounds
and open wide to suck it in
I feel it move across my skin
I'm reaching up and
I'm reaching out
I'm reaching for the random
or whatever will bewilder me...
whatever will bewilder me!
FOLLOWING MY WILL AND WIND
WE MAY JUST GO WHERE NO ONES BEEN!
WE'LL RIDE THE SPIRAL TO THE END
WE MAY JUST GO WHERE NO ONES BEEN! [/b]

Deepest part in the song. It is encourgaing you to think for yourself, to go find things that will entrance you, entertain you, and whatever will complete you. As long as you keep riding the spiral of life the way you choose, then you will reach a better place.

[b]SPIRAL OUT
KEEP GOING
SPIRAL OUT
KEEP GOING
SPIRAL OUT
KEEP GOING
SPIRAL OUT
KEEP GOING.... [/b]

Even if you spiral out, you must keep going. It is the only way.

yo i wanna find out that specific order of like listen to laterlus in a certain order and stuff happens anyone know where i can find that or like knows about please tell me if ya do

I just found it last night, its 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10. I didnt really find it that amazing no big revelation or anything. Some of the songs do blend well together in that order so who knows.

I must admit, this is one of my favorite threads I have ever seen on MX. Lots of intelligent conversation, and when people disagree they post up good explanations. Plus I guess it could also be that Im a HUGE Tool fan, course one would only need to look at my drum set to see that hahaha.

Anyway, keep it up guys and gals, this thread RULES!!

thx man im trying it rite know

[QUOTE=petrucci_wannabee]I've not really got time to get into this, but read up on Drunvalo Melchizadek and look at [url]http://www.merkaba.co.il/Grid.htm[/url]

Warning - This s[b][i][/b][/i]hits hard going

Edit - The bit at the bottom is most relevant[/QUOTE]


look at my name.

i do merkaba everyday
it has changed my life

i met drunvalo last year

I am Highly knowledgeable of it and basic spiritual principals.
i had to sign a non disclosure statement when i took the class. one on one teacher.
I am light!
i also practice Astral Projection (which takes an open third eye)
during and around which you can pick up radio waves, and see with your eyes closed, and also see with about four different types of site.
Humans are made up of a sandwich of several bodies that are intertwined together(parabola, spiraling around each other, like dna) you can shift focus to other bodies, each harder to gain access to not by judgment but because its energy is vibrating faster. each an octave apart(today a young man realized all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration...) everything is energy vibrating. and there is another reality right around you that is vibrating at and based on a faster/different frequency, or root note. The universe is mathematically held and so is music. Hence many experiements and ancient text dealing with sounds that activate portals, interspacial and interdimensional travel. and hence the reason for meditational mantras like the common buddhist chant. its all energy being mathematically transmutted. that is life.

Project Philadelphia
the government knows about merkaba
but they dont call it merkaba
it doesnt matter what you call it. its the principals.
The government can tell if youre doing the merkaba, by satelitte. the airforce admitted to it!
The government used to try to shut down the spread of merkaba, but they gave up because many people in israel are hip to it,though it is still closely monitored. . and america is scared to death of israel because they think that israel is chosen by god. but that means god picks favorites. false. the isralites only chose to keep true certain spiritual principals. giving them obvious advantages in spiritually dire times. hence the star of david. which is the two dimensional image of a merkaba(stage one). it gets deep man! first earth age deep! before "adam and eve". which is not a guy and girl. the bible hints to the first two earth ages in GEnesis. but of course it couldnt go deeper than a mention, because then the bible would be useless for control purposes, because the previous earth ages are where you get things like ATlantis, Lemuria, merkaba, etc from.

Hey Merkaba, Id like to chat ya sometime and talk about some of this stuff. I have done alot of research on this and would like to hear your thoughts. Check my profile for my AIM info..

according to maynard. h is about having the devil angel on one shoulder and the sweet angel on the other. though its not written that way. I've also read that its about him having a near death experience.

you can rarely find a true source to many of their songs.
i hear push it was about him and his child, or him and Tori Amos. the same for Schizm(tori amos). so who knows. i think the song is basically about being pushed until you have to do something. you cant take any more and you have to do something.

Schizm is commonly reffered to in regards to the the void between religion and science. but can be any void between x and z or etc.

i do know jimmy is written in lower case. to signify the younger, nickname of James. when his mother left him with his uncle. who molested him. a wonderful song. one of my faves.

Stinkfist is about not realizing youre being used because youve grown accustomed to it and you've included it in your ways. hence the idea of someone fisting you, you being numb too it, then turning around to take their shltty hand afterwards. the borderline is crossing the line. its not about going deep. you take a little at a time until youre all the way Fvcked but you've been getting so long you cant live without it. finger deep, knuckle deep, elbow deep, shoulder deep. gradually you give more and more and you dont even know it. gettin Fvcked in some kind of way and growing accustomed to it. politics, religion, economy, etc.

46 and 2. Jungian philosophy. thats it. Carl jung is deep, so, enough said.

Third eye is about opening your third eye. Thats it. once you do, you can really appreciate the song more.

Hooker with a peniz. its about what he says in the song. picture it. some guy coming up to him while sporting trends from "The man". the new tatoos trend, the name brand Vans shoes, the name brand levi 501's, the trendy nipple rings, yet he's pointing the finger at maynard saying he sold out to "da man". Ironic huh? ironic as lifting a skirt to find a peniz huh? and equally as perplexing as a male hooker to begin with..hehe. maynard is off the meter lyrically.

btw, tool are not atheists. rather agnostic. but not atheist.

Bumpz

SP i'm reporting you for spam, comon man if someones got something to say they will say it...

Merkeba i like your explanations, especialy hooker... :thumb:

[b]
Track: Sweat
Album: Opiate
[/b]

This is one of my many favorites. I feel this song is about drugs, yet I like to keep an open mind on Maynard’s lyrics, so if you feel it’s a different subject, lets hear it. I’ve never done LSD but I have done XTC & Mushrooms. This song can relate pretty well.

[b][I]
“I'm sweating,
and breathing
and staring and thinking
and sinking deeper.
It's almost like I'm swimming.
[/I][/b]

All symptoms of a really good drug trip.

[b][I]
“The sun is burning hot again
on the hunter
and the fisherman,
and he's trying to remember when,
but it makes him dizzy.�
[/b][/I]

I take it as “the sun is burning hot again� as a timestamp. That he/she took the drugs in the day, “Hunter� is a metaphor, for seeking something (seeking/exploring your mind. Something Maynard is big on)
“Fisherman� would be a metaphor, for someone that patiently waits for something. As if your mind is the bait, and drugs would be the fish that takes the bait. “trying to remember when� could mean to remember when he/she took the drugs or trying to remember reality, yet the drug takes control and “makes you dizzy�

[B][I]
“Seems like I've been here before.
Seems so familiar.
Seems like I'm slipping
into a dream within a dream.�
[/b][/I]

I don’t know how many of you have been on an acid/shroom trip.. When you are trippin’ everything you tripped on last time kinda comes into play, yet is fuzzy, and you have new experiences mixed with old, Sometimes even think of sh*t you didn’t want to think about. Making things familiar yet you keep slipping deeper as you continue to peak. (this is where I usually start puking on a shroom trip) as I continue to slip more into my “dream�

[b][I]
“Must be the way you whisper.�
[/b][/I]

I’m a little confused here… later in the song he goes back to talk about this “whisper� Maybe the whisper is soberness? Reality? Another person? Can’t exactly put my finger on it, yet I think it deals with reality.

[b][I]
“The sun is setting cool again.
I'm the thinker
and the fisherman
and I'm trying to remember when
but it makes me dizzy.
and I'm sweating,
and breathing,
and staring and thinking
and sinking
deeper
and it's almost like I'm swimming.�
[/b][/I]

back to my “timestamp� suggestion… “the sun is setting cool again� meaning that he has been tripping for hours, and day is turning into night. Same as above for the rest of the chorus.

[b][I]
It's the way you whisper.
It drags me under
and takes me home.
[/b][/I]

ahhh.. back to “whisper� I have the strong feeling it deals with reality/soberness. Home = sober state of mind? Like I said I’m not sure what this exactly means, if any of you guys/gals have an opinion, don’t be scared to post it.

:evil:

Tool Trivia
 

Tool Trivia

I thought this would be fun. I see Trivia floating around the forums, but I wanted to make this just for TOOL. I know there are many search engines out there so Internet Trivia can’t be too competitive, but none the less it’s fun. And maybe, just maybe you’ll learn something new.

[b]
Rules:
[/b]
1. When asking a question, please make sense, please make sure there is a true answer. No “is Maynard gay� etc etc..

2. Before you can ask a new trivia question, you must answer the one above you.

3. You MAY ask TOOL related questions (family, friends, side projects, equipment/gear) but please, nothing too far out of the TOOL atmosphere.

4. Intelligence is the KEY FACTOR to making this successful.

5. No fighting, No name calling, no Spam.

6. The questions may be simple or complex.

7. HAVE FUN!

The rules may vary, based on replies.. if I see something getting out of control, I may change edit the rules to comply. As I said above and as I have posted many many many times… use your brain before posting. Any true TOOL fan knows the band feeds off intelligence, so lets make the boys happy.


I’ll start this off..

“In what year was Maynard James Keenan born, and what City/State was he born in?�

Dont take it as you cant post theory/opinions... keep them comming in... they have all been great contributions to the thread.. keep em up!!@
:evil:

new album
 

I have heard rumors of tools breaking and i have not believed them and i was wondering if anyone new about an upcoming album in the future and if so when is it to be released

Wow, Merkaba, you're now one of my favourite MXer's, great insight there :thumb:

As for the guy that was analyizing Lateralus, that's they way I feel about it aswell, but I'd just like to add that the 'envelope' is another word for how far a human can reach from a point with their arms full extended, maybe Maynard means that because it doesn't really make sense with the other meaning of the word

[QUOTE=SuBuCnI420]I have heard rumors of tools breaking and i have not believed them and i was wondering if anyone new about an upcoming album in the future and if so when is it to be released[/QUOTE]

As been said many times before, take almost everything you hear about TOOL with a grain of salt, even more so when it comes to the band breaking up. Tool is not breaking up, and the new cd will hopefully be released late '04, early '05.

everyone should try the alternate order for lateralus. the cd makes much more sense that way, as the songs flow so well together in the different order. the order i tried is 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10.

i think Maynards main goal in his songwriting is to get you to [B]think for yourself.[/B]

I may do an analysis of some Tool lyrics one day, not tonight though. Too tired to fiddle with Too.

the lyrics for the hidden track on opiate are astounding

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]I was under the impression the first time i heard Eulogy that it was a tribute of sorts to Bill Hicks. Anyone else find this?[/QUOTE]


I did too, I heard it was a tribute to Bill Hicks. :thumb:

[QUOTE=drummerdunc86]i think Maynards main goal in his songwriting is to get you to [B]think for yourself.[/B][/QUOTE]

If you pay attention to James's Interview's, he does it for himself. To get it out and get it over with. He can't keep writing about the same things, bc. then he never would grow.

Ok, I'm surprised I haven't seen this mentioned on here 'cause usually I see it on many other Tool boards...Anyway, have any of you heard about the whole Fibonacci sequence being related to the entire album "Laterlaus"? You know, I'm not too sure if this is exactly true or not but I just thought I'd post it...

[I]The drum beat for track #9: Lateralus on the album follows the Fibonacci sequence. The Fibonacci sequence, to summarize, is a mathematical pattern where you add the last two digits of the pattern to get the next (ex.- 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, etc.). When this pattern is graphed out, it forms a spiral, which is what Lateralus means. Though he looked beyond this and realized that if he were to lay the songs on the graph in accordance with the Fibonacci sequence (this idea is explained further in the link) then he could perhaps come up with an alternate track order. His process began with placing track numbers 6 and 7 in the center of the graph seeing as he knew they had to run together. Then through a process of creating two spirals, he finally found an alternate order to the album that, if they were edited correctly, would make all the tracks run together almost as one song. Suddenly tracks were making much more sense. He discovered that if this new order were to be true, then track #4: Mantra, would go after track #8:Ticks and Leeches. The last line of Ticks and Leeches is "I hope you choke", and the sounds of Mantra, previously believed to be whale noises, could in fact be viewed as a distorted choking noises. Random pluckings of strings at the beginning of track #5: Schism were now revealed to be the finishing chords for track #7: Parabola. Clues to this alternate order are given in lyrics throughout the album, such as "Spiral outm keep going" or "I know the pieces fit".


So for all who are interested, though this may not work correctly without the correct editing software according to the poster that discovered this, the alternate track order is as follows: 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10.. [/I]


:rolleyes: Again, I'm not too sure about all this stuff but I just thought it was interesting. I got this paragraph from some other Tool board.

Tool aye, hmmmm, my brother loves this band, i've heard some like hush etc, i quite enjoyed it.