Wow really comprhensive lessons dude. Good advice! Anyways, a little help here for me please. Like what's my problem if I can only sound good when I sing something hostile and angry, but when I try singing something harmonicly I sound like utter cow fart or something. There's just so little loud and hostile singing bits thrown into my band's songs, it's overall harmonic, but I can't do it. Is it my voice range or will I just never be able to be harmonic and should just stick to the whole angry heavy metal singing I do? Blah, what should I do?

Hey guys, I really wanna be able to sing. I play rhythm and piano and would just like to encorporate reasonable singing into my stuff. Can you give me some tips? I will probably do a post like this in the scream thread when i have a free house.

Me singing broken by seether : [url]www.geocities.com/chappers_1988/broken.mp3[/url]

me singing trouble by coldplay : [url]www.soundclick.com/clearvision[/url]

Me singin run by snow patrol : [url]www.geocities.com/chappers_1988/run.mp3[/url]

Right click and 'save as' for broken and run...

Hmm or is it just a puberty thing that causes me to sound like crap most of the time...

hey guys just wondering, hoe much bigger is it possible to make your range.

I have been singing for ages, but I have recently purchase the mars volta album. I can sing most of it, but there are a few notes I just cant hit, so I was wondering if I will be able to improve my range enough to hit those notes. Foe example, I can hit a B, but I need to hit the D.
Thanx

[QUOTE=theabstract]hey guys just wondering, hoe much bigger is it possible to make your range.[/QUOTE]

I have actually increased my range by about 1.5 octaves so it is possible :thumb:

I have one question, i admit i am a preaty bad signer, i want to be better. Is there any chance or do you have to be born with atleast a fair bit of signing talent

Thanks Harmonisation!

[QUOTE=scoo2ter]I have one question, i admit i am a preaty bad signer, i want to be better. Is there any chance or do you have to be born with atleast a fair bit of signing talent[/QUOTE]

You do have a really good chance of becoming a good singer. I think the only time that people really, really cant sing is when they they are tone def. By that I mean can't tell the difference about diffrent keys and key changes...not that they can't hear anything cause thats preti darn mean :upset:

The only advantage with being born with the ability to sing good is that they don't have to work as hard. If you really want to sing good and your not that hot at the second, you've just got to work amazingly hard. Get a teacher or join a choir or just practise on your own. It is possible to become really good because I've been teaching my guitarist to sing, and now he is improving incredibly on what he was and can actually pull off a song, which I dont even think he would of dreamed when we started! :lol:

Look at Silvers lessons as he has written down the key basics (breathing, mouth movement etc etc) and just kinda advance at your own pace from there! Happy singing :thumb:

hey silver (or anyone) i need some advice. My girlfriend has a beautiful singing voice and she's really good with choir-style music. However, she desperately wants to sing in a more rock-style. i dunno what to tell her tho... any tip?

i'm thinking drup the vibrato and add a hint more muscle...?

[QUOTE=Harmonisation]You do have a really good chance of becoming a good singer. I think the only time that people really, really cant sing is when they they are tone def. By that I mean can't tell the difference about diffrent keys and key changes...not that they can't hear anything cause thats preti darn mean :upset:

The only advantage with being born with the ability to sing good is that they don't have to work as hard. If you really want to sing good and your not that hot at the second, you've just got to work amazingly hard. Get a teacher or join a choir or just practise on your own. It is possible to become really good because I've been teaching my guitarist to sing, and now he is improving incredibly on what he was and can actually pull off a song, which I dont even think he would of dreamed when we started! :lol:

Look at Silvers lessons as he has written down the key basics (breathing, mouth movement etc etc) and just kinda advance at your own pace from there! Happy singing :thumb:[/QUOTE]


I know lots about keyes and tones since i am a guitarist, should that help?

[QUOTE=Chippy569]hey silver (or anyone) i need some advice. My girlfriend has a beautiful singing voice and she's really good with choir-style music. However, she desperately wants to sing in a more rock-style. i dunno what to tell her tho... any tip?

i'm thinking drup the vibrato and add a hint more muscle...?[/QUOTE]

this is easy... first she has to actualy listen to rock music, and LIKE IT. It's almost impossible to sing in a style that you don't like and don't listen to all the time. That is the big thing, choose a female singer she wants to sound like, and listen to her and pay attention to the way she sings the notes.

I think the trick about rock singing is it is a lot more "out there" and "extreme", basically pushing your voice to the limits... thats why in other forms of singing you don't hear the "scratchy" or "scream" voice. Rock singing (for me anyway) is about controling extremes, being able to scream at one moment, and then finishing of with a light falsetto. This involves a lot of practise and discipline, she has to PUSH her voice through her diaphram and not be afraid of being loud. I'm not sure else what to say :D

merci, mon ami! I'll tell her.

Hey, this is a great thread. I was under the impression that I was a half decent singer until about half a year ago, when I heard myself through a monitor and wanted to find a deep dark hole. Anyway, I want to be good enough to do lead vocals, but I have real difficulty hearing myself to tell whether I'm in key or not. I'm not tone-deaf, coz I tune my guitar sweet as.

I was told by a friend of mine that if you sing really high up in your chest voice, you can get that sort of husky voice that the fulla from Feeder has... Is that true, coz if so, I'm SO doing that.

Cheers,
Andy

scoo2ter > It is helpful because you know what kinda pitch you are aiming for and you can kind of gather how much work you have got to do. Also cause you are already a guitarist you should know basic theory which is extreamly helpful!


BlacklightGuitarist > I'm not sure about singing high up in ure chest gives you a 'feeder feel', I think thats one for Silver to answer :confused:

But you shouldn't feel bad that you sounded abit...shall we say 'dodgey' over a PA. I think every singer feels a little shocked when they first hear themselves for the first time over a monitor cause it isn't what you expect and I know cause I felt the same! You think you sound OK cause when you sing it causes vibrations to spred up your cheek bones (or some bone in that facial reigion) and then into your ears, so what you are hearing is a different sound to what the person sitting next to you is hearing. It's just something that you have to practise and then you just become aquainted with it and accept that sound as being you!

When you say that you can't tell wether your in key or not, I presume thats when your singing over a PA, but if not Im sori! But if that is what you mean, I started off buy just standing as close as I could to the PA speakers without getting massive feedback! Im now however looking at getting ear monitors which allow you to hear 10x more clearly and allow you a bit more freedom to 'express yourself' with the ole vocals. Hope I helped :thumb:

Does anyone have any tips for an emo/screamo singer. I've never been in a band myself, but I have one potentially in the works. What are some good tips for possibly making my tone higher, and screamo-style screaming? Thanks.

hey sliver... today i got the notion that i would sing/record a song for my girlfriend, seeing as our 2 year anniv. is coming up. i need some help tho... i'd describe my voice as weak and quivery. is i my breathing or just in my head?

hey, i would really love to sing and scream, ive read all ur stuff on both but i have a major problem.........i get extremely embarrased like not ur average embarrasment i feel sick and have awful cramps and i freak out about sounding **** or making a fool of myself, i guess you could call it a phobia in someway, will i sound better if im singing to music or will it be the same without???? and also bout the fear thing ppl tell me to relax and all that **** but wen i am and i go to sing i just cant, even infront of close friends who i know for a fact cant sing to save their life...

signed singaphobic

hahaha i hadto put that in..

oh i forgot something, it not like i cant get up infront of people because i guess if i was in school i would be the class clown, im always trying to make people laugh and making a fool of myself (fool as in funny, not what i wrote in the first one) when i do that its ok
and i blush like crazy, like head up is bright red, when i get embarrased

hollyhox > Really dont worry about being nervous...everyone gets it to begin with! The first time you get up on stage or just get up where everyone is watchin you is just...unbelieveably horrible...yet at the same time totally exhilerating and when you get stop you'l want to get up agen. Your mind has just gota get used the the fact that everyone is watching you and then you'l be fine and stop feeling so ill! Also, dont wori about making a total a*se out of yourself, you gota remember that the majouraty of people who are watchin you are not only wanting to hear you sing but at the same time see a show!

hehe. if you ever get nervous, just pretend that everyone's naked!

(haha... i remember in health class we had to write letters to the opposite sex, and one of the guys was nervous to read his letter to the ladies, and the teacher asked him what to do about nervousness, and he said that ^... it was only funny 'cuz he's the biggest perv ever!)

Chippy > Tat does work until you see a beast of a male/female and then her need to throw up might increase :p

true, i guess... *grossed*

Ok i know im a Bass my voice is very low and thats an ok think i think, but my voice sounds boring while singing, sort of hard to explain but i know im in key and everything by playing guitar and singing and recording it, im just wondering if anyone has some tips to help me sing a bit higher than a bass range or not sound as "boring" while singing, i can also scream emo style and it sounds pretty good but its almost like im forcing that sound, and thats not all i want to do i want to sing
thanks

Platinum_warlock > The only advice I would give to you is have a go at singing some songs in falsetto and see how you get on. You might just find however that your voice is stuck in base and try and advance or express yourself more through that. But as Ive said throughout, people can always change their voices for the better so just have a bash at falsetto or if you can't do it by yourself and are still determined to get higher, have alook at getting a singing teacher as they will do the best they can with you.
In regards to your screaming, I think that every type of vocalists scream sounds as if its being forced out and I think its a difficult thing to escape. But have alook at the 'screaming' threads (as their are a few of them) and see if anyone in there can help you more!

alright thanks :thumb:

[QUOTE=hollyhox]hey, i would really love to sing and scream, ive read all ur stuff on both but i have a major problem.........i get extremely embarrased like not ur average embarrasment i feel sick and have awful cramps and i freak out about sounding **** or making a fool of myself, i guess you could call it a phobia in someway, will i sound better if im singing to music or will it be the same without???? and also bout the fear thing ppl tell me to relax and all that **** but wen i am and i go to sing i just cant, even infront of close friends who i know for a fact cant sing to save their life...

signed singaphobic

hahaha i hadto put that in..[/QUOTE]

record yourself, listen to yourself, get comfortable with your voice.

ask your mom/dad/sister/friend to listen to you (someone you trust and wouldn't feel to bad singing in front of) ask them they're your opinion. If they like it, (honestly) then you should worry.

Thats why I always ask my mom, she was brutaly honest with me in regards to vocals when I started. I don't know about you guys, but I prefer criticism when its constructive, its the best way to develop. Get comfortable singing in front of people you know.

The funny thing is I am comfortable singing in front of strangers, but not my father... I don't know why, he always makes me feel... like I'm not good around him. Good luck, keep practising everyone.

My vocalist is new to singing. When he is just singing out of key however he wants he sounds awesome, but once he gets in key and stuff he sounds pretty bad. I told him just to keep practicing and ****, but I was wondering if you had anyways excercises or something that can help with this.

SillyPuddyonIce > Look at some of Silvers lessons, some good warm up techinques on there!

I'm a female singer. I have a band. For now, my band used to play the song that we like - no matter what the genre. My voice is very clean, normal range but pretty low for a female vocal.
My question : is it possible for a female singer to do growl vocals? can you help me with that? i mean, the technique to reach distorted voice, and everything. what i want is kinda punk rock growl.

that's it, sorry for my bad english :p

whutadilly > I would of thought that it was possible for females to perform growl vocals. Theres a metal band out at the second (Im really sorry Ive forgotten their name...I'l remember and put in on here so you can have alook) and they have some of the most powerful growls and vocals in general that Ive ever heard. Then I heard off a mate that the vocalist was a gir!! I honestly thought he was taking the royal p*** outa me until he got me a video of em and I was utterly gobsmacked. (Ha...'gobsmaked'...aint used that word for adges) So it is possible!! If theres a female vocalists out there that know about this please help aswell!! :thumb: