[QUOTE=victim of changes]Bill Ward > Martin Axenrot
Tonni Iommi > Peter Lindgren
Geezer Butler > Martin Mendez
Ozzy> Mikael Akerfeldt


Sabbath>Opeth

I dont mean to bash them but sabbath is just better[/QUOTE]


^^
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sorry if I'm a bit late in noticing that truly lame statement, but I've just got back from holiday

[QUOTE=Kronos]^^
points and laughs


sorry if I'm a bit late in noticing that truly lame statement, but I've just got back from holiday[/QUOTE]
Haha, Ozzy better than Mikeal? Suure :p

And the other statements are just as hilarious.

Yeh man what are you talking about? Mikael is much much better than Ozzy. Mikael's voice is so great and the changes he makes are amazing, I mean when singing like in Damnation and then screaming.

I saw one DVD last week, and it's awesome, don't remember its name but the first part consisted of all the Damnation album and then like 6 more songs from the other albums. It was amazing :thumb:

That'd be Lamentations - I don't know of any other Opeth DVDs; and I have looked at ebay to see if they'd got any -erm- "unofficial" ones - no luck

Yeh, that name sounds in my head.

Lamentations is unbelievably good - it's my fave live DVD (even better than Live Aus Berlin and that's a tough act to follow IMO). Martin Lopez makes his really tough drum parts look totally effortless..

Yeh Martin is a great drummer, and plays in such a calm way that what he plays seems to be easy, when it is very hard. And Deliverance.. wow amazing!!!
I laugh when heard Closure the first time because the rythm is like the genre that I must hate: regaeton.

What's regaeton?


I like Closure - it's fun to play

It's a type of music that comes from I think that the Caribean, but it sucks. Its rythm is like the drums at min. 3:40, and the lyrics are with nosense at all just saying rhymes and mostly talk about girls like hookers, it is in spanish. The point is that it sucks.

Sounds truly grim - I reckon I'd hate regaeton too (if I ever heard any)

lol almost every one that listens metal hates it. Hey what instrument do you play?

I started with bass, then 6 string, now I fumble about on the drums - dreaming of being Martin Lopez....


/sighs

Cool, I play guitar, and know some drums but I suck at it.

I find drumming is more "me" than guitar - I was always goofing up on key changes and such, and my soloing ability was completely non-existant.

Drums only have the key of "thud"

which I like

Getting back on the topic of Opeth...

I am really interested in how the drumming will sound on their next album. Like Axe is known for his blast beats and stuff so I wonder if more of that will finds its way onto the new album.

I hope not - the rather jazz/latin influences in ML's drumming helped to make Opeth's unique sound. I don't think loads of common-or-garden blast beat drumming would be a step in the right direction at all

That's the thing though. As far as I know, Axe is noy heavly influenced with jazz or latin music. Therefore I would conclude it just won;t be there anymore.

Btw, I just watched the Grand Conjuration again and I noticed that Gene Hogan from Strapping Young Lad is on the drums in that video. I heard they made the video on tour so I guess it was at a time when Lopez was ill.

Why would Mikael want him to repeat what Lopez did though? The latin/jazz thing is over now, and it's up to Axe to find something new to do. That's the way I see it, anyway.

I only hope that the new drums sound as good as how Lopez did, no matter if it is a new sound.

If "new" is blast beats and constant manic double pedalling on everything then I'm predicting that we'll all look back on the the Lopez years with a wistful sigh....

I hope Axe will be able to bring the Lopez songs alive the way Lopez himself did.
Subtle and with feeling.
I agree it's up to Axe to find a new style, but I doubt he will top Lopez.
Lopez just had a very good style, although that is just my opinion.

I don't think blast beats would kill the band at all. They've never done them before so you don't know how they'd turn out.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I don't think blast beats would kill the band at all. They've never done them before so you don't know how they'd turn out.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I can only see Axe stepping up the metal sections where Lopez didn't. It's the softer parts we should all be wondering about.

Blasbeats would kill the emotion and atmosphere in Opeth, of course Mikeal is still main song writer and won't allow Axe to 'ruin' the sound with blastbeats everywhere unless Mikeal wants it.

Opeth are a blend of heavy and light with a lot of subtlety - I hope that's not lost in the future, 'tis all.

And I think we can imagine how blast beats everywhere will turn out - like blast beats I reckon

I agree with you, Lopez style is amazing, and it would be very hard for Axe to create something better, but who knows... maybe he will give us all a surprise.

I can see emotions such as anger/sadness be stepped up with some kind of blast beat. In a song like Wreath.

Well look how Lopez started out. He came from Amon Amarth which didn't have any soft moments or anything. Maybe we will be surprised at what Axe can do with regards to the mellow sections.

Anyway, I'm off to see them in November - so I'll see what the drumming's like then.

He must be pretty good as Opeth have used him for like 5 tours

[QUOTE=Darkness]I can see emotions such as anger/sadness be stepped up with some kind of blast beat. In a song like Wreath.[/QUOTE]
True, bit it's not just blasbeats everywhere.
Agression makes that the contrast btetween certain emotion is shown better.
But if there's only heavy stuff, there is no comparison.
And of course, all things should find their balance in the song.
The heavy and the soft parts.

Well ofcourse there should be balance. If there's any sense left in Mikaels head (as we saw a lack of with GR... :p ) he won't allow blast beats all the time. Only on the most agressive parts, I imagine.

Yeh they will balance all the sounds, as they have been doing it all this years, and create the feelings they made the people feel when listening to their songs.

[QUOTE=Darkness]Well ofcourse there should be balance. If there's any sense left in Mikaels head (as we saw a lack of with GR... :p ) he won't allow blast beats all the time. Only on the most agressive parts, I imagine.[/QUOTE]
GR was pretty bad indeed. :(
I still have good hope for them though.

Ghost Reveries was hardly a bad album. :mad:

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Ghost Reveries was hardly a bad album. :mad:[/QUOTE]
:mad:

Well, It didn't stand up to any other of their releases and trust me, I'm a big fan :(:(

I'm so tired of talking about Opeth. They're a great band, they have good albums.


[center][size=5]Enough said.[/center][/size]

I'm a big fan of them too, and GR is near the top of my favorite Opeth albums list.

I actually thought Ghost Reveries was a solid release. Not their best but it has many good songs. In my opinion, Ghost of perdition and Reverie/Harlequin forest are some of their best songs they have ever done. The baying of the hounds, Beneath the mire and are solid songs, especially once they get going. The grand conjuration just blew me away when I saw them live.