[QUOTE=lunchforthesky;14024293]By that logic neither do plus 44 whom everyone loves.[/QUOTE]

lol, seriously. I'm with you on that one.

I don't think its about "working for fame," it's just making good music. AVA doesn't do that while (+44) does. That's how I see it, anyway.

[QUOTE=I0Played0Bass;14022378]I agree hating AVA is the cool thing to do, but I legit just don't enjoy their music and think Tom made a big mistake in hyping them up so much.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't agree more. I like Tom, although I think he's been a bit of a douche, but God alone knows how many times I listened to the AvA CD. I just plain, simple, could not get into it. It did nothing for me at all.

Its crap and toms a ****.

Rofl. Well I don't like Matt Bellamy :p

Yeah, well i dont like you :mad: :p

[QUOTE=lunchforthesky;14024293]By that logic neither do plus 44 whom everyone loves.[/QUOTE]

I dont think Plus 44 deserve there fame. But they are ALOT better then AVA

Agreed.

WYHSB is a good album but mad overated.

He rubs his d[size=2]ic[/size]k in broken glass.

When you f[I]u[/I]cked grandpa did he tell you that he loved you?

That songs fun to play, haha.

[QUOTE=lunchforthesky;14011892]There next album will bomb pretty hard i think
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They announced that they're definitely going to release a second album?

ha with Tom's ego i sure think so.

I don't see why they wouldn't release a second album. You gotta realize this isn't a side project like Boxcar, this is Tom's new band. It has nothing to do with his "ego", it's natural for a band to release a second album after their first.

I would think so. I cant see it not sucking but ill happily give it a try.

Yeh same. Hopefully he doesnt talk it up.

So, if you go to the +44 they have an electronic WYHSB remix on the playlist. It's pretty fun.

^^ That was pretty cool, kind of what i htought they would be like when we first heard about +44

[QUOTE=MattSharpIsCool;14029860]I don't see why they wouldn't release a second album. You gotta realize this isn't a side project like Boxcar, this is Tom's new band. It has nothing to do with his "ego", it's natural for a band to release a second album after their first.[/QUOTE]

Oh ya, i see what you mean. I hope it's better than their first album but after Tom released "Stars of Bethlehem" or whatever I kinda lost all faith in AVA. I was willing to give AVA a second chance but Tom just ended up making another sucky song.

[QUOTE=DJ Ducksauce;14029938]So, if you go to the +44 they have an electronic WYHSB remix on the playlist. It's pretty fun.[/QUOTE]

yeh i heard the a while ago it rawks!

dude i toatlly agree. I lost all hope when he released that stars of bethleham. he hyped it up calling it the best song he had ever written and it wasted 8 minutes of my life.

I thought that was a pretty good song.

What don't you guys like about it?

The intro drags a bit, but other than that, I like it.

Tom is an awful singer that works only in Blink and some Boxcar Racer, AVA whilst awful for other reasons, do not at all suit his voice.

I think he's improved his singing enough. He may not be great live, but he sounds decent enough on the albums.

And I don't see why his voice doesn't fit with AVA. It's still nothing but pop music, and Tom has a very pop-rock-ish voice.

if you have ever heard tom sing live you know that he probably has to sing each song a billion times in a studio to get all his songs right. when he sings live you cant understand what he is saying and just sounds terrible.

I Disagree. I reckon his a decent singer with a unique voice. And live he sounded good when i saw blink 182.

i heard him live once and he was terrible. it didnt sound at all like it was on the record. i thought maybe it was just a bad night but i checked out other live videos of them and they were just as bad. if you can reccomend a video where he sings well ill watch it and give him another chance. but for now i think his singing live is terrible.

Hes a bad singer live but hes an even worse guitarist the amount of f'uck ups he manages on really simple songs is laughable.

i havent heard him screw up on guitar and he writes pretty good riffs (great riffs in my opinion) but people do mention him being very sloppy when he plays.

Tom seems to have good days and bad days. I've heard or watched live stuff where he sounds terrible, and some where he sounds pretty decent.

I'm pretty sure Tom had a habit of performing drunk (maybe even high, I dont know if he was into that) when he was in Blink. I've seen more than a couple videos of him trashed, which doesn't help.

There catchy but really easy and simple, he cant even play i miss you and sing.

I dont know what videos you've seen, but I've seen plenty vids of him playing and singing just fine.