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FunkMetalBass 06-05-2010 11:59 AM

Is it a 35" scale?

fatbandit 06-05-2010 12:05 PM

No.

FunkMetalBass 06-05-2010 12:08 PM

y not

fatbandit 06-05-2010 12:50 PM

yeh but y?

Epidemechanical 06-05-2010 01:06 PM

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;18015439]Lol exactly my point. Like it's not like a case of why do you need six strings, it's like why can't you make do with four?

It's mostly a feel thing to me. 4'ers just feel the most like a bass.

I'm in like a proggyish rockish band and tried taking my six string to practice and I found noooo neeed for it whatsoever.[/QUOTE]

umm

a lot of math metal bands use 7 string guitars and in order to effectively play with them easily a 6 string is quite useful or at least a 5

fatbandit 06-05-2010 01:11 PM

Yeah, but then people would argue you don't need 7 string guitars either. Don't DEP just play normal guitars in standard tuning?

Convectuoso 06-05-2010 01:32 PM

Again every note is available to you on a 4 string, and re stringing it lower seems like a more logical solution.

The precision is stunning.

BenJammin 06-05-2010 01:43 PM

At the end of the day, it's just an instrument, and most people can't play them well, regardless of how many strings it has. :p

Convectuoso 06-05-2010 01:58 PM

Lol yeah :chug: it's ridiculous the amount of bad bassists out there that get away with it.

Convectuoso 06-05-2010 02:03 PM

Srsly how much was that precision? You got me gas'ing all over the place here.

fatbandit 06-05-2010 02:36 PM

I'm not very good really. I just realised how much worse I've gotten, sat here playing bass on my own :|

The list price on the JJ sig bass is about 1500 I think. And an 8 month+ wait. And half the world away. If that makes the gas subside any?

Convectuoso 06-05-2010 02:59 PM

Lmao ihy.

1500 pounds like like 4000ish here I think. My god. And 8 months? Jesus christ.


If you are noticing a decrease in skill it's probably just a lack of technique and finger strength exercises. If you ran a few scales and modes for like 15 mins a day you'd notice an improvement in like a week.


Also practice to drums or a metronome. Drums are more fun and practical to me.

fatbandit 06-05-2010 03:14 PM

For the last year or so, maybe more, I've had one bass and it's lived at our practice room. I never practice at home. It's shocking how my timing has gone down the pan. Now I have something here I'll actually try and play to some drum loops and stuff :) That's the plan anyway. If anyone has some like drum loop tracks they wanna send me, it'd be neat.

Epidemechanical 06-05-2010 04:38 PM

what do you guys think about how bands release material?

jordan and i want to do a celldweller/nin type of release where we release songs in pairs of 2 - just like a normal CD, it comes with everything. artwork, toys, gizmos, gadgets, the two songs, the instrumental versions - maybe alt versions, remixed versions

etc

we also just finished up a new song its like an "indie pop song" it isnt industrial in the slightest

and then we're gonna do a steampunk song and release the two like that

thoughts?

Convectuoso 06-05-2010 05:55 PM

Idk, I kind of a fan of the 'album'. I know most people don't give a fuc, but I think the process of bringing 10-15 songs together that highlights that era of your music is cooler than releasing it in like glorified ep's.

j/s

Convectuoso 06-05-2010 05:56 PM

[quote=fatbandit;18016284]For the last year or so, maybe more, I've had one bass and it's lived at our practice room. I never practice at home. It's shocking how my timing has gone down the pan. Now I have something here I'll actually try and play to some drum loops and stuff :) That's the plan anyway. If anyone has some like drum loop tracks they wanna send me, it'd be neat.[/quote]
EZdrummer, make your own. (they come with a bunch of their own that you also drag and drop into a midi editor and edit.)

/post.

Epidemechanical 06-05-2010 06:06 PM

we just finished most of our new song

all that's left is for jordan to put vocals on the verse

this song is really different for us - its really "30 seconds to mars" and its not industrial in the slightest bit. its more indie/altrock

Epidemechanical 06-05-2010 06:07 PM

and lol@optimistic lyrics

chorus/bridge:


Considered by most to be an enemy
I am and will always be
A different make and a separate breed
Even though we’re the same when we bleed
Amalgamate and juxtapose
Become all you refused to know
Dissolve your fear don’t let it grow
I promise you that there is hope

It’s our time
We will rise
To exist entirely as one mind

Epidemechanical 06-05-2010 06:09 PM

the chorus is also sung in almost exclusively falsetto/head voice which isn't that easy for me cause i suck so bad but if i had to practice this damn song one more time i was gonna kill myself

FlamingCouch 06-05-2010 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;18016414]Idk, I kind of a fan of the 'album'. I know most people don't give a fuc, but I think the process of bringing 10-15 songs together that highlights that era of your music is cooler than releasing it in like glorified ep's.

j/s[/QUOTE]

Agreed one hundred percent. One of my least favorite things about Fuc[SIZE="2"]ked[/SIZE] Up is that two full-lengths have been released, but their 7"/12"/reel-to-reel/vinyl collection of songs is just ridiculous and masturbatory (to me). I don't want to have to buy twelve different audio devices to play and enjoy a band's music, nor do I want to spend thousands of dollars getting all this super rare and hard to find material... I just want to hear the music. Putting it into one cohesive unit just works well for a guy like me. Also EPs and whatnot feel way too short 90% of the time, like some kind of teaser. But with additional gadgets, sure, it'd definitely be a crazy-go-nuts spend-a-thon for consumers, I suppose.

also read up on the reason for the hole. Thanks Ben and FMB for answers.

Raayl I dig the lyrics. then again I'm biased because I love indie and whatnot, but hey.

Epidemechanical 06-05-2010 06:18 PM

its not "really" an indie song

its really heavy it just has that kind of alt rock thingy going on

it should be done by tomorrow ill have it uploaded for download

FlamingCouch 06-05-2010 06:22 PM

Upload the download to the fifth quadrant and all that shize?

Unfortunately I most likely won't be able to DL it because the work computer is a bitch. but hey, could be worse I guess, I could not be able to get on at all.

Epidemechanical 06-05-2010 06:22 PM

also, about the whole "album" thing

i think albums are a thing of the past. the "album" originally was a record - and even back then, ALL bands released singles on vinyl.

as far as im concerned - my life is my album. when i'm dead, that's it - the album is done. until then, i release song after song under the pretense of my morbid little life.

so i really like the idea of 2 song releases. it gives my short attention span less to focus on. cause lets be honest, when you buy a CD or w/e, you're usually doing it because of one song you heard. this way, it allows the artist to condense the material, perfect it, and even a chance to give out things like demos of the track, individual files so people can remix, creative commons stuff, i mean - it just makes so much sense and it has so much potential.

albums are for big name acts who do all the recording in big, month-at-a-time sessions. for the little guys like all of us, condensed releases have a lot of appeal.

Epidemechanical 06-05-2010 06:25 PM

im all for music being free i never want people to have to pay for it but i do like the NIN business model of selling things like artwork and packaging. im a really big fan of clever CD case design and stuff like that. i like toys and gadgets

EDIT: and im talking about just selling enough to break even or to pay for all the materials required to actually release it

FlamingCouch 06-05-2010 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=Raayl;18016442]also, about the whole "album" thing

i think albums are a thing of the past. the "album" originally was a record - and even back then, ALL bands released singles on vinyl.

as far as im concerned - my life is my album. when i'm dead, that's it - the album is done. until then, i release song after song under the pretense of my morbid little life.

so i really like the idea of 2 song releases. it gives my short attention span less to focus on. cause lets be honest, when you buy a CD or w/e, you're usually doing it because of one song you heard. this way, it allows the artist to condense the material, perfect it, and even a chance to give out things like demos of the track, individual files so people can remix, creative commons stuff, i mean - it just makes so much sense and it has so much potential.

albums are for big name acts who do all the recording in big, month-at-a-time sessions. for the little guys like all of us, condensed releases have a lot of appeal.[/QUOTE]

I see what you mean with the little guys like all of us thing, but I personally have always owned albums because I'm interested in the record as a whole, and not just the two or three songs I hear on the radio. I'll often walk into a store and buy an album on a whim, just because. If it doesn't knock me out I can always give it away, sell it or break it and throw it down... I don't know. I don't particularly let one song judge dropping (usually) twenty bucks on an album. Back in the day when I had internets at home I would actually download part or the whole of the album and preview it that way, then buy the real deal later if I dug what I heard before. but I'm a strange fruit, I know.

and another one is I actually want to record a full-length - it's a pain in the *** and it'll never get done, but I would just drive myself ballistic if I had to do it all in pieces. but yeah. oh and btw the "album is my life" - that's pretty cool. good way to put it.

and I sincerely hope an album never truly becomes a thing of the past... I like having the tangible item in my hands, the art, the little stuff written down... if everything were to go digital suddenly that stuff wouldn't matter somehow, because I'm insane. anyways.

FlamingCouch 06-05-2010 06:35 PM

so anyways, I'm sick of typing and I'm supposed to go to a friend's back-in-town pizza party/drink lots/meet up with the rest of the gang/all-night-fuc[size="2"]k[/size]-fest/possible throwing [SIZE="2"]sh[/SIZE]it down as our two-man project tonight after all that while still loaded. I'm sure it'll turn out just like John Petrucci psycho excersises and we'll actually destroy the planet with our powers... or maybe because we haven't rocked it in like forever we'll just end up desacrating what once was. Either way, can't find out unless I give'r. (if you haven't seen Fubar... find it and watch it. it's wicked retahded.)

and yeah. SALUT

EDIT: had to come back and do some editing because I can't stand posts being censored. Yes I actually speak in stars when I swear in real life... are you fuc[SIZE="2"]king[/SIZE] [SIZE="2"]shi[/SIZE]tting me?

AND THAT'S THE GAME.

Moon Flavor 06-05-2010 06:56 PM

wow who the **** is that dude

also that **** about the album being your life is gay as hell dude. i don't download albums 2 songs at a time why the hell would i wanna pay to buy 2 songs at a time and why the hell would you wanna pay more to release 2 songs at a time.

oh shi i forgot you're all artistic and stuff ok cool

Epidemechanical 06-05-2010 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=Moon Flavor;18016469]wow who the **** is that dude

also that **** about the album being your life is gay as hell dude. i don't download albums 2 songs at a time why the hell would i wanna pay to buy 2 songs at a time and why the hell would you wanna pay more to release 2 songs at a time.

oh shi i forgot you're all artistic and stuff ok cool[/QUOTE]

lol drug addict gay kid on the internet disagrees

gaslight 06-05-2010 07:57 PM

I prefer full length albums if a band is capable of pulling it off but not everyone is up for it.

There's a difference between making 11 songs and making an album.

Epidemechanical 06-05-2010 08:00 PM

you can still release albums in smaller batches

in singles or in condensed releases over time


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