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AA-12 03-31-2006 10:52 AM

I feel like posting something about that religionish topic a few pages back. I recently had somewhat of a huge change in my life, and I departed from christianity. I now live by the philosophy of that none of us know anything because we all only percieve things one way, we have to accept that and use it to "learn" more. That's very vague, but gives you a decent idea.

Sleepy 03-31-2006 11:00 AM

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]I feel like posting something about that religionish topic a few pages back. I recently had somewhat of a huge change in my life, and I departed from christianity. I now live by the philosophy of that none of us know anything because we all only percieve things one way, we have to accept that and use it to "learn" more. That's very vague, but gives you a decent idea.[/QUOTE]

So Agnostic or Atheist?

AA-12 03-31-2006 11:15 AM

Atheistic side of agnostic really. I don't claim 100% that there's no God, but I have absolutely no belief that it would be any of the "gods" people worship now.

purgatory 03-31-2006 12:12 PM

Sometimes I feel like an Agnostic, but if i had to choose, I think I'd call myself an Atheist

metalhead_matt 03-31-2006 12:32 PM

hey guys, in the passage to the reaper video, demonstration 2, what song is that? starts at about 8:25

MRDuCran 03-31-2006 01:20 PM

Waltari - Move.

metalhead_matt 03-31-2006 02:10 PM

thanks man
**** i didnt know roope was that good.

repcak 03-31-2006 02:27 PM

roope is playing at least 10years longer guitar than alexi and is technically far better than alexi!
when you will see them live, take a look at Roopes guitar technique... its amazing.

AA-12 03-31-2006 02:37 PM

Yeah, Roope is an amazing guitarist. As much as I love Alexi, Roope deserves way more credit when it comes down to playing.

metalhead_matt 03-31-2006 02:41 PM

yeah, hes 9 years older aint he. i just like the way the guy always seems to be smilin

I'm Charming 03-31-2006 03:30 PM

I have to go with Trashed, Lost & Strung Out, Chokehold, Bodom Beach Terror, Towards Dead End and Mask Of Sanity.


man............. Look how the tides turn on religion once Sir Anti religion is sleeping.... lol.

kurrpt 03-31-2006 03:31 PM

i didnt get the last sentence charming...

I'm Charming 03-31-2006 03:37 PM

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]i didnt get the last sentence charming...[/QUOTE]


Read several pages back where I wrote up my explanations as to why religious people were mentally ill. There debate was far in favor of "against religion".
Overnight while I was sleeping, the "pro religion" crowd showed up and made their voice heard.

That's what my comment meant.

GenuineImitation 03-31-2006 04:07 PM

I dont think its fair to say anyone who believes in a religion is mentally ill, but then again its opinion.

Sleepy 03-31-2006 04:07 PM

I would've held the fort for you, Charming - but I was sleeping, too.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood 03-31-2006 04:19 PM

Yeah his opinion is completely rediculous,i hate his stupid opinions about anything

Sleepy 03-31-2006 04:21 PM

[QUOTE=Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]Yeah his opinion is completely rediculous,i hate his stupid opinions about anything[/QUOTE]

And just because you have an opinion on his opinions, you have the right to hate them? You need to take a look at what you're posting before you post it...because you just contradicted yourself. :thumb:

AA-12 03-31-2006 04:22 PM

Yeah. Not believing in God is much more valid/realistic than believing.

GenuineImitation 03-31-2006 04:24 PM

Im cool if people dont believe in religion. I personally believe there is a God, but every one is entitled to their own opinion.

I'm Charming 03-31-2006 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]Yeah. Not believing in God is much more valid/realistic than believing.[/QUOTE]


You sir have an excellent post there!

[QUOTE=clearly said in rational thought]
Yeah his opinion is completely rediculous,i hate his stupid opinions about anything
[/QUOTE]

How so? Could you please explain with facts? You don't hate my opinion on abortion, last time I checked. So there's one.

You want to explain how worshiping, believing and "living your life" around something fictious isn't delusional?

AA-12 03-31-2006 04:30 PM

Hey, we agree on something for once :cool:

Sleepy 03-31-2006 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]Hey, we agree on something for once :cool:[/QUOTE]

The Apocalypse is upon us!

I'm with you and Charming on this one. Religion has always been out of realistic grasp for me.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood 03-31-2006 04:33 PM

I dont beleive in abortion and last time we talked i think i had swayed u unless im mistaken or youve changed your mind about it,and im not explaining myself i said what my views were a page or so back thats all im saying about the religion thing

The Sandman 03-31-2006 04:36 PM

Sooo...just to be completely off topic...CoB had better bring out a DVD sometime in the very near future.

I'm Charming 03-31-2006 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]I dont beleive in abortion and last time we talked i think i had swayed u unless im mistaken or youve changed your mind about it,and im not explaining myself i said what my views were a page or so back thats all im saying about the religion thing[/QUOTE]


I know where you stand on religion and abortion. You're very clear on that.


Yes, I'm anti abortion & anti death penalty. That's correct.

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]
Hey, we agree on something for once
[/QUOTE]
:thumb:
I think the only thing we disagreed on really was the swastika. That and I bashed nu-metal. Other than that, I can't think of any e-duals or battles we've fought.


[QUOTE=The Sandman]
Sooo...just to be completely off topic...CoB had better bring out a DVD sometime in the very near future.
[/QUOTE]
We don't stand for off topic posting in this thread. Take your CoB discussion somewhere else. :p

Sleepy 03-31-2006 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood]I dont beleive in abortion and last time we talked i think i had swayed u unless im mistaken or youve changed your mind about it,and im not explaining myself i said what my views were a page or so back thats all im saying about the religion thing[/QUOTE]

What does abortion have to do with anything at hand?

repcak 03-31-2006 04:37 PM

c'mon... god is dead ... lets stop this discussion :p

/sarcasm

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood 03-31-2006 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]I know where you stand on religion and abortion. You're very clear on that.


Yes, I'm anti abortion & anti death penalty. That's correct.




We don't stand for off topic posting in this thread. Take your CoB discussion somewhere else. :p[/QUOTE]


Thats what i thought the last time we talked, ok

Sleepy 03-31-2006 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]c'mon... god is dead ... lets stop this discussion :p

/sarcasm[/QUOTE]

Even though it was sarcasm...I agree with both statements in that post.

I'm Charming 03-31-2006 04:39 PM

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]What does abortion have to do with anything at hand?[/QUOTE]


Her bashing my opinions. I pointed about the fact that we both hold the same belief on abortion.

Sleepy 03-31-2006 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Her bashing my opinions. I pointed about the fact that we both hold the same belief on abortion.[/QUOTE]

Ahhh okay, I understand now :)

repcak 03-31-2006 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]

Yes, I'm anti abortion & anti death penalty. That's correct.
[/QUOTE]
äh... are you now pro or contra child-abortion and death penalty?! you're from america. i am from europe and on these things we general have different opinions.

child-abortion is legal in europe and no one is against it... beside some ppl who are too(!) religious. Death penalty was last executed after WW2 on some nazis (nürnburger process)

AA-12 03-31-2006 04:50 PM

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]
:thumb:
I think the only thing we disagreed on really was the swastika. That and I bashed nu-metal. Other than that, I can't think of any e-duals or battles we've fought.
[/QUOTE]
Pretty much. I don't necessarily agree with the abortion thing though. Death penalty though, I agree with you.

I'm Charming 03-31-2006 04:51 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]äh... are you now pro or contra child-abortion and death penalty?! you're from america. i am from europe and on these things we general have different opinions.

child-abortion is legal in europe and no one is against it... beside some ppl who are too(!) religious. Death penalty was last executed after WW2 on some nazis (nürnburger process)[/QUOTE]

It's fairly mixed in the US. It mostly depends where you live as well. Most people in a liberal state like California would accept it as ok. Texas or most southern states would be against it.

It's legal as of now. South Datoka just banned it within their state and made it a criminal offense. That's basically a pathway to getting the supreme court to review and (hopefully) overturn Roe V Wade. That won't erase all abortion though. Overturning it would just make it up to the states. In other words, if you live in Texas, you gotta get on a plane to Cali.

I'm against the Death Penalty for several reasons, here they are.

1. It's not a deterent as it's meant
2. Life without Parole is far worse on an inmate
(Death row is your own cell, no contact with other inmates, lots of family and lawyer visits, basic cable and radio if you but it from the prison and after 20 years if appeals failed, get a needle in your arm and fall asleep forever).
Compared to the dangers of prison for the rest of your of natural life.
Fights, getting shaked, raped or killed.
3. Innocent people wind up on Death row many times
4. I think it's used on Minorities more and unfairly applied.
5. Example,
Say you have a brutal rape & murder of a drug addict hooker with no family and you have the exact same rape and murder except the victim is a single mom of four? Who would you "feel deserves to die" more?
Most people would say, the killer of the single mom despite everything being the same....

Aren't you putting more worth on one persons life in that situation?


EDIT: Don't claim Death Row would be lonely. These guys are sociopaths, they aren't warm fuzzy people lovers who long for friendship.

Sleepy 03-31-2006 04:55 PM

I'm all for abortion...I'm against the death penalty though. I must say everyone's favorite drunk redneck, Ron White, said it best.

"If we catch Osama, I wouldn't want a firing squad to take him out. Nah, I'd want him stuck in a maximum security prison and forced to lick the jelly outta Thunderdick's buttcrack for thirty-five years."

I'm Charming 03-31-2006 04:56 PM

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]I'm all for abortion...I'm against the death penalty though. I must say everyone's favorite drunk redneck, Ron White, said it best.

"If we catch Osama, I wouldn't want a firing squad to take him out. Nah, I'd want him stuck in a maximum security prison and forced to lick the jelly outta Thunderdick's buttcrack for thirty-five years."[/QUOTE]


haha. That's wishful thinking, he'd get dusted in five minutes.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood 03-31-2006 04:58 PM

So your all for babies getting killed

AA-12 03-31-2006 05:00 PM

I am 100% for abortion.

Lil’ Bloodred Ridin’ Hood 03-31-2006 05:01 PM

nice to know u like babies being killed

I'm Charming 03-31-2006 05:02 PM

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]I am 100% for abortion.[/QUOTE]

Alright then it's 2-2 right now.

FuryInArt and Josh for it. Mandy & I against it.

I reccomend an e-dual!

PS,

You have a free ticket to call me a hypocrite and laugh at me Josh.

NP: Disturbed


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