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Spoonful of Shame 07-27-2006 10:22 AM

[QUOTE=Kronos]Master's Apprentices is one of my fave tracks ever - I just love the crushingly heavy opening riff - and Martin Lopez's 32nd note double bass - awesome.
Pity about his problems and him leaving the band - he's my drumming idol. I expect his replacement is also very good ( I'll find out in November), what is it with Opeth and the name Martin? The replacement drummer's called Martin too, and none of them are english. It's like an english band having three members called Pascal or something...[/QUOTE]

His replacement is very good. I got to see him live at the Opeth/Nevermore show. Still it just won't be the same without Lopez.

Kreator2112 07-27-2006 11:01 AM

Yea, he did a drum solo at that show. You can't really go wrong with Bloodbath.

Kronos 07-27-2006 11:05 AM

[QUOTE=Spoonful of Shame]His replacement is very good. I got to see him live at the Opeth/Nevermore show. Still it just won't be the same without Lopez.[/QUOTE]
Does he play the drum parts exactly the same, or does he do his own thing (within limits)?

Kreator2112 07-27-2006 11:08 AM

Probably within limits. It's kinda hard to play the exact same thing on every song.

Spoonful of Shame 07-27-2006 11:17 AM

[QUOTE=Kronos]Does he play the drum parts exactly the same, or does he do his own thing (within limits)?[/QUOTE]

Lets put it this way. I didn't notice any majors changes in the drums. It was an amazing show and the drums were no exception.

Kronos 07-27-2006 12:01 PM

[QUOTE=Spoonful of Shame]Lets put it this way. I didn't notice any majors changes in the drums. It was an amazing show and the drums were no exception.[/QUOTE]

Sounds good! I wouldn't expect him to play exactly the same as Lopez - even he didn't play the songs identically live and studio, but hats off to him if the new guy can do it virtually the same; their songs are hard enough being mainly long with lots of different parts, but when you have to imitate another drummer's feel and style it must be much more difficult.

/looks forward to November even more now....

Kreator2112 07-27-2006 12:02 PM

When do Gigantour tickets go on sale?

Iron Bars 07-27-2006 12:03 PM

[QUOTE=Kronos]Sounds good! I wouldn't expect him to play exactly the same as Lopez - even he didn't play the songs identically live and studio, but hats off to him if the new guy can do it virtually the same; their songs are hard enough being mainly long with lots of different parts, but when you have to imitate another drummer's feel and style it must be much more difficult.

/looks forward to November even more now....[/QUOTE]

It was that I had read that Lopez was not there or I would not have noticed the difference. I'm more interested in how he is going to preform on the next studio album.

Shattered_Future 07-27-2006 12:28 PM

[QUOTE=JamJar]There's eight. You're missing Orchid, Morningrise and My Arms, Your Hearse.



I love it. It's so emotional.[/QUOTE]

He said IN all. Which means he knows there's 8, but only owns 5.

/grammer police ftw.

Pretty sure I'm going to Gigantour. If there's no tickets to a Jones Beach show (which I'm hoping will be one of the TBD dates), I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go to PNC.

JamJar 07-27-2006 12:31 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]He said IN all. Which means he knows there's 8, but only owns 5.

/grammer police ftw.[/QUOTE]

Misreading ftl :(

beastman168 07-27-2006 01:27 PM

My fault, there's suppose to be a comma. It won't let me edit it.

BlackFire_ 07-27-2006 02:16 PM

Im finding "To Bid You Farewell" a masterpiece right now. This song is amazing, I dislike new Opeth though, Ghost Reveries was horrid, IMO.

Spoonful of Shame 07-27-2006 02:49 PM

Ghost of Perdition, Reverie/Harlequin Forest, The Baying of the Hounds, and Beneath the Mire are all amazing songs off Ghost Reveries.

Overall, I think it is a really good album. Not a classic album or anything by Opeth's standards but has some amazing songs on it. \m/

btw, The Grand Conjuration is so heavy sounding live. Its intense.

JamJar 07-27-2006 02:51 PM

I'd say it's about middle in my order of Opeth albums. It's got some amzing tracks (Isolation Years, Ghost Of Perdition) but also some not so good ones (The Grand Conjuration, Atonement) The songs generally drag on a bit for me though.

Kreator2112 07-27-2006 02:52 PM

I'd still put it near the bottom..along with D1.

JamJar 07-27-2006 02:53 PM

Yeah it's above D1 and the Orchid and Morningrise. The latter two do nothing for me at all.

BlackFire_ 07-27-2006 02:54 PM

I find Mikael's vocals on the new albums very annoying, personally. If you listen to "In Mist She Was Standing" and then "The Grand Conjuration", there's a huge difference.

Kreator2112 07-27-2006 02:55 PM

MR is not anywhere near the bottom.

It's hard to make a bottom when all have such great elements.

Spoonful of Shame 07-27-2006 02:56 PM

Exactly. None of Opeth's albums are crappy or anything but when ranking them even the albums you would put on the bottom are still really good.

Kreator2112 07-27-2006 03:01 PM

I have to go to work now, you guys have fun.

Shadows 07-27-2006 03:08 PM

[QUOTE=BlackFire_]I find Mikael's vocals on the new albums very annoying, personally. If you listen to "In Mist She Was Standing" and then "The Grand Conjuration", there's a huge difference.[/QUOTE]
That's a little backwards. His vocals on Orchid and Morningrise were sloppy and unpolished while his voice on Ghost Reveries is near perfect.

Kronos 07-27-2006 03:12 PM

I don't really care for GR as much as the earlier albums, (still good tho', esp. Harlequin Forest), and the video for TGC makes my flesh crawl - I quite liked the track until I saw it, now it's put me off

Yeah I know, it's pathetic. :-(

Darkness 07-27-2006 03:12 PM

GR is at the very bottom for me now. After almost a year, there's [I]no[/I] songs I find myself going back to listen to.

Shattered_Future 07-27-2006 03:37 PM

I still love The Grand Conjuration. It's simple, yet asskickery, especially live. Video blows though.

Shadows 07-27-2006 03:37 PM

GR is my second most frequented Opeth album.

Darkness 07-27-2006 03:46 PM

Yeah, the only time I enjoy GR is when the songs are live. The material was ment for a stage, IMO.

Crysiss 07-27-2006 04:01 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I still love The Grand Conjuration. It's simple, yet asskickery, especially live. Video blows though.[/QUOTE]

I thought the vid was decent, I dont get why everyone hates it. the intro is like 80% Shorter though lol.

EDIT: Upon looking at it again, I concur.

Darkness 07-27-2006 04:04 PM

Really man...? That video was horrible. It had nothing to do with the song, and was incredibly cheesy.

Crysiss 07-27-2006 04:05 PM

See edit ^^

haha.

Darkness 07-27-2006 04:08 PM

Oh ok. :p

fwqhgads ² 07-27-2006 04:09 PM

Opeth was one of the first bands I started listening to when I was getting into metal. I really enjoy their music.

Jude 07-27-2006 04:11 PM

Ghost Reveries is above Orchid and My Arms Your Hearse for me, but below the rest.

Crysiss 07-27-2006 04:15 PM

[QUOTE=fwqhgads ²]Opeth was one of the first bands I started listening to when I was getting into metal. I really enjoy their music.[/QUOTE]

When did u get into music? First music I listened to was Metallica lol and Collective Soul.

I think I was about 8 or so.

VomitStainedCretin 07-27-2006 04:40 PM

The Grand Conjuration is a great example of Opeth's ability to write some truly evil sounding stuff. Demon of the Fall and title track off Blackwater Park are other good examples. In fact, BP is a candidate for my favourite Opeth song.

JamJar 07-27-2006 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=VomitStainedCretin]In fact, BP is a candidate for my favourite Opeth song.[/QUOTE]

Awsome song. I love it. Very fun to play on the geetah aswell.

VomitStainedCretin 07-27-2006 04:42 PM

As much as I love Opeth, I do find, particularly on their longer songs, that I have trouble paying full attention to them. However, theyre so good this isnt really a problem.

VomitStainedCretin 07-27-2006 04:43 PM

BP is a long song I definitely dont have that problem with though.

JamJar 07-27-2006 04:44 PM

The only long Opeth songs I have trouble with is the first two albums and Ghost Reveries. The rest is not over extended at all. Especially Still Life. That's an orgasmatron of an album.

VomitStainedCretin 07-27-2006 05:00 PM

Which particular songs off Ghost Reveries cause The Grand Conjuration is pretty much good the whole way through and most of Ghost of Perdition gets my full attention.

Super Wotan 07-27-2006 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=VomitStainedCretin]As much as I love Opeth, I do find, particularly on their longer songs, that I have trouble paying full attention to them. However, theyre so good this isnt really a problem.[/QUOTE]
Same here, I wish they'd keep things short.


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