[QUOTE=blockhead;18755276]
people enjoy drugs and alcohol when life rules too
[/QUOTE]


I feel like that's the best time to enjoy drugs, you won't get stuck dwelling on how much things in your life suck. The 2 times I did shrooms I did them with my girlfriend and it was just another tool of reassurance as to how good I have it and how happy I am.

[QUOTE=illmitch;18755275]point is i just dont like messing around with drugs and thats that

theres not much anyone can really do to change that[/QUOTE]

lol i love you mitch but you're such a square

don't you ever want to walk on the wild side and experience something other than the preset life of: white suburban childhood, nice clean cut college life with a little drinking then white collar corporate job?

I've never understood how people can live such a safe life. I'm just too curious to see every thing and take risks.

[QUOTE=blockhead;18755280]lol i love you mitch but you're such a square

don't you ever want to walk on the wild side and experience something other than the preset life of: white suburban childhood, nice clean cut college life with a little drinking then white collar corporate job?

I've never understood how people can live such a safe life. I'm just too curious to see every thing and take risks.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfy9ZqKUJjU[/url]

[QUOTE=blockhead;18755280]
I've never understood how people can live such a safe life. I'm just too curious to see every thing and take risks.[/QUOTE]


Pretty much, I guess I just don't want to involve myself with heavily addictive drugs that can have serious negative impacts on my health. Generally though my life is fueled by adventure and nothing scares me more than a life of repetition and monotony.

[QUOTE=illmitch;18755277]i hate it when people say BUUH ALCOHOL IS A DRUG

yes, by the technical medical definition it is, but in actual conversation when people say "drugs" they don't mean alcohol[/QUOTE]

yeah but when some one is currently drinking and then says "no need to do drugs" its worth bringing up because it still gets you intoxicated

i don't understand why haz is saying theres no need to get intoxicated on certain things but its okay to get fucked up on beer

its all intoxication so its all grouped together

people get mad when you say alcohol is a drug because they drink and don't do drugs and don't want to be lumped in with drug users

would you call someone out for saying "no need to do drugs" if they drink coffee

no because theyre different types of intoxication

being drunk and using drugs are pretty similar types of intoxication though

[QUOTE=Angmar;18755282]Pretty much, I guess I just don't want to involve myself with heavily addictive drugs that can have serious negative impacts on my health. Generally though my life is fueled by adventure and nothing scares me more than a life of repetition and monotony.[/QUOTE]

I don't regret my experience. I mean I've done it all crack, heroin etc and I made it out alive and I'm not addicted any more. Plus it was a lot of fun and an exciting experience most people never get to have. I mean I'm fine now it didnt ruin my life. I was addicted for what? like a year? and now I use drugs less than almost any one else here.


@ mitch

I knew that was gonna be that song haha; I love that album.

also im fine with living a square life because i was different in high school. i tried some drugs, was rebellious, was interested in anarchism and socialism and shit like that. i enjoy my life a lot more now. you could say im rebelling against being rebellious.

I realize that alcohol is generally assumed to be a safer form of intoxication because of its legality but the science kinda proves it isn't. I don't think there's anything wrong with drinking obviously as I've done my fair share of it but you can't really tell people that other drugs are bad and you can't deny that it's a drug just because it's legal. It's just stupid how some people assume that things like marijuana are more dangerous/somehow worse for you because of the drugs legal standing.

I mean let's face it the governments drug policy is generally fucking stupid.

not having coffee makes people irritable

being drunk makes people do stupid things

social perception and medical definitions are not correlative'

this still doesnt cover everything though which is the problem

the law doesnt reflect this in a purely scientific or purely medical way.

if everyone was a rebel society wouldn't function

[QUOTE=Angmar;18755289]I realize that alcohol is generally assumed to be a safer form of intoxication because of its legality but the science kinda proves it isn't. I don't think there's anything wrong with drinking obviously as I've done my fair share of it but you can't really tell people that other drugs are bad and you can't deny that it's a drug just because it's legal. It's just stupid how some people assume that things like marijuana are more dangerous/somehow worse for you because of the drugs legal standing.

I mean let's face it the governments drug policy is generally fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]

i dont deny that its technically a drug

i deny that its semantically a drug

[QUOTE=illmitch;18755285]would you call someone out for saying "no need to do drugs" if they drink coffee

no because theyre different types of intoxication[/QUOTE]

coffee doesnt get you fucked up. People in Narcotics Anonymous drink coffee because everyone knows its not really something that usually causes a serious problem.

NA considers alcohol a drug and so does every other substance abuse organization because it's recreational intoxication which is what drugs are.

People drink for the same reasons they use drugs: for fun, to relieve stress, anxiety, depression etc.

It's contradictory that haz would say "no need for drugs" while he's getting drunk because people use illicit drugs and alcohol to achieve the same end result.

if everyone was a rebel there would be no rebels

[QUOTE=Haz;18755291]if everyone was a rebel society wouldn't function[/QUOTE]

wow no shit

thanks for your worthless contribution

I don't really consider myself a rebel, I just value the ability to think for myself.

[QUOTE=blockhead;18755293]coffee doesnt get you fucked up. People in Narcotics Anonymous drink coffee because everyone knows its not really something that usually causes a serious problem.

NA considers alcohol a drug and so does every other substance abuse organization because it's recreational intoxication which is what drugs are.

People drink for the same reasons they use drugs: for fun, to relieve stress, anxiety, depression etc.

It's contradictory that haz would say "no need for drugs" while he's getting drunk because people use illicit drugs and alcohol to achieve the same end result.[/QUOTE]

coffee is still technically a drug, so is tobacco

i wanna do shrooms this winter

watched my friend do it the other night and i just kinda smoked with him and chilled. ate dinner with his old, conservative parents while he was at his peak, that was pretty funny

[QUOTE=Angmar;18755297]I don't really consider myself a rebel, I just value the ability to think for myself.[/QUOTE]

I have to question drug users and their supposed "raising of consciousness" they like to gloat about. it's very condescending sometimes, like they've seen a God you'll never understand when they are clearly a rambling idiot. oh wow look at all these sheeple in their suburban life they don't have the key to the universe like I do

in my experience it opens doors and obscures others. all balances out in the end

[QUOTE=illmitch;18755298]coffee is still technically a drug, so is tobacco[/QUOTE]

yeah it is. i'm talking about things that give you euphoric intoxication. like things people go to support groups and rehab for.

if "life is good and there's no need for drugs" then there should be no need for alcohol either because people use them both for the same reason

however that statement was retarded to begin with because it implies people only do drugs when life is bad

[QUOTE=Haz;18755300]I have to question drug users and their supposed "raising of consciousness" they like to gloat about. it's very condescending sometimes, like they've seen a God you'll never understand when they are clearly a rambling idiot. oh wow look at all these sheeple in their suburban life they don't have the key to the universe like I do

in my experience it opens doors and obscures others. all balances out in the end[/QUOTE]

agreed haz

[QUOTE=Haz;18755300]I have to question drug users and their supposed "raising of consciousness" they like to gloat about. it's very condescending sometimes, like they've seen a God you'll never understand when they are clearly a rambling idiot. oh wow look at all these sheeple in their suburban life they don't have the key to the universe like I do

in my experience it opens doors and obscures others. all balances out in the end[/QUOTE]


Yeah I agree, I don't think my perception of the world is necessarily any better than most peoples I just think it's important for people to develop their own opinions. I definitely get irritated with extremely egocentric people.

[QUOTE=Haz;18755300]I have to question drug users and their supposed "raising of consciousness" they like to gloat about. it's very condescending sometimes, like they've seen a God you'll never understand when they are clearly a rambling idiot. oh wow look at all these sheeple in their suburban life they don't have the key to the universe like I do

in my experience it opens doors and obscures others. all balances out in the end[/QUOTE]
you've only smoked pot how would you know whether or not psychedelics are mind expanding.

btw nice job generalizing all drug users as bumbling potheads[QUOTE=illmitch;18755302]agreed haz[/QUOTE]

lol two people have never done the drugs being discussed agree that it isnt mind expanding from their lack of experience!

im agreeing that people who brag about how mind-expanding it is are annoying

get off your high horse

nearly all of the people i know who do psychedelic drugs are complete losers

this show rules

It's not like me or Sam are advocating constant psychedelic use, like anything else enjoyable I think it's something people shouldn't discount because of minor risks and social perceptions of it is all. It's like going on a roller coaster or something, you might not enjoy it but it's something worth experiencing at least once in your life, and if you're super stressed out about it then you probably won't enjoy it in the first place so it's not worth doing until you feel ready.

[QUOTE=illmitch;18755307]im agreeing that people who brag about how mind-expanding it is are annoying

get off your high horse

nearly all of the people i know who do psychedelic drugs are complete losers[/QUOTE]

i don't think doing acid makes me better than anyone else. i just said that i had a lot of good experiences on acid when i took it when i was seventeen. i think people who never try it are missing out but i don't think it's the key to the universe. i ahven't even tripped in like two years now.

and define "complete loser." I"m sure you and your friends would probably consider me a loser because I'm not in a frat and play video games and read comics instead of going out drinking and partying.

[QUOTE=blockhead;18755311]and define "complete loser." like not a popular kid in a frat who is going to be a white collar stiff?[/QUOTE]

lol stop trying to troll me

that said, i'm not down on drug use whatever makes you happy

in the grand scheme of things alcohol is probably the most destructive. I suspect this is more due to it being legal and how widely available it is if people had the green light for say, heroin they'd probably be abusing that just as much too, whatever's available

I just don't trust people enough that I would expect it to be used responsibly

[QUOTE=blockhead;18755311]and define "complete loser." I"m sure you and your friends would probably consider me a loser because I'm not in a frat and play video games and read comics instead of going out drinking and partying.[/QUOTE]

straw

man

argument

[quote=illmitch;18755307]im agreeing that people who brag about how mind-expanding it is are annoying

get off your high horse

nearly all of the people i know who do psychedelic drugs are complete losers[/quote]
why does the third sentence have to be there

because thats how my train of thought worked when i was writing that comment

[QUOTE=illmitch;18755314]straw

man

argument[/QUOTE]

idk i wasnt even trollin that time i assume most people in frats consider people like me losers because i spend a lot of time by myself doing nerdy stuff. The only person I hang out with on a regular basis is erica because all my close friends from college and highchool are in south carolina and i haven't met many people here (mostly because i've been anti social)

you actually went to college

most of the people im talking about dropped out of high school and spend their parents money on drugs and think it makes them enlightened

[QUOTE=illmitch;18755319]you actually went to college

most of the people im talking about dropped out of high school and spend their parents money on drugs and think it makes them enlightened[/QUOTE]

I hate people who think they're enlightened from drug use. One of the only real important things I had a revelation about on acid was that I wasnt as smart as I thought I was. I used to think I was a genius because I did so well in all the AP classes without even trying but when I was tripping I realized I was just being a pretentious asshole. I was a lot more humble after that.

However, I think this would have happened eventually as I grew up but it just came as a sudden powerful flash of insight that really made me change the way I acted. But yeah it would have happened either way. I think a lot of the things that seem really insightful while on psychedelics aren't nearly as much so as you think at the time.

illmitch is the forum normal guy lets all make fun of him!

yeah mitch is the most white bread but w/e he'll live his suburban live

we'll all be ok I really don't wish any harm on any of you

I was just kiddin with mitch me and him are buddies.

This is like that time mappy and I were teasing each other and you thought we hated each other.

@noonward

im intentionally normal i find it enthralling