Being a studio musician would be great, but as it stands I would need to build myself up a lot. It's not an easy thing. You have to be able to read music like a virtuoso.

[QUOTE=toaster135]That's not entirely true.. I'd bet that 90% of band members out there know very little theory, if any at all. A studio musician is obviously a different story.[/QUOTE]
I'd bet differently.

I know a bit theory right now, but I'm always ready to learn more. To me, being able to play things is only half of really being a musician. The other half comes from knowing how and why things work. And theory also seems like another way to put yourself further above non-musicians. Then again, I'm going to be a music major, so I'll be doing a hell of a lot of theory as time goes on.

I actually think that music theory can hinder your creativity. If you know the "rules" too well, you start to think only in those terms, and your own writing can become stagnant and uninspired. I've heard many, many songs that don't follow conventional rules associated with theory at all, but they find their own feel and convey something that someone well-educated in music theory could not. That's partly why I think that very few successful artists know theory.

i play only for myself. if i want know some theory, i learn it or ask someone who knows. i only learn the theory i need to and want to. i know enough theory to know how to play, so i stopped learning theory and play only.

and i agree totally with this:
[QUOTE=toaster135]I actually think that music theory can hinder your creativity. If you know the "rules" too well, you start to think only in those terms, and your own writing can become stagnant and uninspired.[/QUOTE]

and that's the reason why i hate shredders and love Alexi Laiho... and how Alexi once said in guitar world: "some bands are super lame like dream theater" :thumb: i.a.w. Petrucci

[QUOTE=toaster135]I actually think that music theory can hinder your creativity. If you know the "rules" too well, you start to think only in those terms, and your own writing can become stagnant and uninspired. I've heard many, many songs that don't follow conventional rules associated with theory at all, but they find their own feel and convey something that someone well-educated in music theory could not. That's partly why I think that very few successful artists know theory.[/QUOTE]
I don't think this happens often. Theory teaches you how music works, but I'd be willing to bet that 90% of all guitarists who have mastered theory still write whatever they want, not thinking in terms of theory. Limiting yourself within those boundaries can do that, but only a very poor musician would do that to him/herself.

[QUOTE=repcak]and that's the reason why i hate shredders and love Alexi Laiho... and how Alexi once said in guitar world: "some bands are super lame like dream theater" :thumb: i.a.w. Petrucci[/QUOTE]
Alexi is as much a shredder as any of those guys. He graduated from a music conservatory and knows an ungodly amount of music theory.

i see a difference of ppl who know theory and ppl who are shredders (without emotion) - beside that: did you have read the interview with alexi laiho in guitar world? (it was the cover with steve vai, alexi laiho and zakk wylde)

I know what sounds good with what from playing alot. I don't need theory to tell me what sounds good with w/e.

I doubt most metal bands are well versed in theory.

Edit:

If anyone could upload the whole passage to the reaper video?

That would be great... I don't have/use bearshare.

[QUOTE=repcak]i see a difference of ppl who know theory and ppl who are shredders (without emotion) - beside that: did you have read the interview with alexi laiho in guitar world? (it was the cover with steve vai, alexi laiho and zakk wylde)[/QUOTE]

Yea awsome interview.

His lessons in there have been Amemsly helpfull

Yea if anyone uploads Passage to the reaper can I get a copy of it too?

[QUOTE=Britton]
His lessons in there have been Amemsly helpfull
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as far as i remember there weren't any lessons... only his old familiar column

passage to the reaper was uploaded onto my forum.


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I got Follow The Reaper.... I thought it was average. The riffage I found pretty bad but the guitar and keyboard solo's kept me into it. I've heard some tracks off HateCrewDeathroll that are like some of my 100 favorite songs of all time and I'm a little intrigued...

But man, they should really tell Alexi to get off the mike.

He's not an amazing singer, more of a guitarist. I think his vocals are good, they fit the band well and don't dominate the songs.

[QUOTE=Porcupine_F*cker]I got Follow The Reaper.... I thought it was average. The riffage I found pretty bad but the guitar and keyboard solo's kept me into it. I've heard some tracks off HateCrewDeathroll that are like some of my 100 favorite songs of all time and I'm a little intrigued...

But man, they should really tell Alexi to get off the mike.[/QUOTE]

No way, man. People who I think should be kicked off vocal job are people like Fred Durst. As you can see, Bodom has many fans, who all LOVE Alexi like a god. So, don't bust out anything about the members. We love Alexi at vocals, even when others think he sucks.

Well yes I'd rather have him than Fred Durst... But compared Hansi Kursch, Jeff Corpsegrinder, Nergal, Dead, John Peitibone, Angelripper, Vincent Crowley, David vincent, Rex Tucker and most extreme metal singers... he's pretty bad.

Who cares? I think his vocals are pretty good, and CoB isn't exactly dominated by the vocals. The Keyboard and Guitar solo parts make up most of their songs so I don't see why people make such a big deal over the vocals.

Also, it takes a hell of a lot of skill to solo and sing at the same time. Try playing the Kissing the Shadows chorus and singing it at the same time.

Alexi's vocals are superb. Great screams, he's very talented.

I recognize this, but still I find Bill Steer a much better vocalist than Alexi who can do just as much. And I don't even like Carcass' vocals that much.
And Carcass makes far better riffs than COB.

Alexi is a monster guitarist, but in terms of songwriting riffage, and vocals, I could reaally care less.

That's nice. If you care less, then leave.

You can't be serious if you're saying that CoB don't have good riffs. Listen to any song off Follow the Reaper and tell me there aren't good riffs there.

[QUOTE=toaster135]I actually think that music theory can hinder your creativity. If you know the "rules" too well, you start to think only in those terms, and your own writing can become stagnant and uninspired. I've heard many, many songs that don't follow conventional rules associated with theory at all, but they find their own feel and convey something that someone well-educated in music theory could not. That's partly why I think that very few successful artists know theory.[/QUOTE]

This is completely false.

Those songs that don't seem to follow conventional theory rules actually follow some theoretical construct...You're probably just not aware of it.

While most successful pop artists might not know theory...They are also not the ones composing either ;)

FOLLOW THE REAPER? Some of the worst riffage I've ever heard (save Hate me and the title track). The only thing that kept me into that album was the keyboard and guitar solos.

From my experience, most COB fans even mark that album as a disapointment.

XD man. Hate Me would probably be the worst song on that album imo, the songs all have great riffage. The solos are crazy too, I'm with you on that, I love the ending to Kissing the Shadows.

Well thats your opinion, but certainly not the bands. I believe thy chose Hate Me as the single.

[QUOTE=Porcupine_F*cker]FOLLOW THE REAPER? Some of the worst riffage I've ever heard (save Hate me and the title track). The only thing that kept me into that album was the keyboard and guitar solos.

From my experience, most COB fans even mark that album as a disapointment.[/QUOTE]

Whatever you say... you just don't seem to follow our basic interests. But oh well, and the only singer I knew of yours up there was Corpsegrinder... he is a god. But, Glen Benton of Deicide is absolutely sick...

[QUOTE=Porcupine_F*cker]FOLLOW THE REAPER? Some of the worst riffage I've ever heard (save Hate me and the title track). The only thing that kept me into that album was the keyboard and guitar solos.

From my experience, most COB fans even mark that album as a disapointment.[/QUOTE]

Nope, most of the people I know who like CoB say Follow the Reaper and Hatebreeder are their favourites. It's my fav anyway, but all the albums are good.

[QUOTE=Porcupine_F*cker]FOLLOW THE REAPER? Some of the worst riffage I've ever heard (save Hate me and the title track). The only thing that kept me into that album was the keyboard and guitar solos.

From my experience, most COB fans even mark that album as a disapointment.[/QUOTE]
What? How can you hate the riffage and like the rest?

[QUOTE=King_Of_Terrors]he's very talented.[/QUOTE]
Far, far from it, Vocal wise.

Oh man, you have to hear Bentons work with Vital Remains. That I think was the best Death metal albums of 2003 (Dechristianize).

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]What? How can you hate the riffage and like the rest?[/QUOTE]

The same reason why I listen to Black Label Society. The solo's are pretty damn nice, but thats about it.

[QUOTE=Porcupine_F*cker]The same reason why I listen to Black Label Society. The solo's are pretty damn nice, but thats about it.[/QUOTE]

I've never liked Zakks solos. Nothing but wankage to me, but each to their own.

Porcupine ****er:

Dude go read the rules, your making like constant double posts.