the 3 original members is the only thing keepin them together right now. get rid of lars and kirk and they're over with

Haven't visited this thread in a while...

Anyways....I'm here to post more thoughts.

Kill Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets. I just named 3 of Metallica's FIRST original full length albums. Loved by millions of people all over the world. Load, Re-Load, St. Anger. Three of Metallica's latest works. Nobody is saying to hold these latter 3 and put them in high regard as the first 3, but fact is...this is the SAME band (essentially).
What does a band want to achieve? They put emotions into music, fans latched on to that. They vent through their music, fans love the way the do it.
They did that with Kill Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets. They also did that with Load, Re-Load, and St. Anger, yet fans don't love it because now the band doesn't "vent" about the same things in the same manners. In other words; different songwriting.
St. Anger - as an album, lyrically without repitiousness, quite good. Riffs? Great. Solos? Non existent, but thats the main weakness you could say.
ANYTHING ELSE......ANYTHING.....should be blamed on production. Production can make or break a bands album. It can throw bands into the spotlight, or have the world hate them for the album they put out.
Metallica put so much trust into Bob Rock, it just felt comfortable working with him after "Metallica" aka "The Black Album".
MAJORITY of fans admit that from "The Black Album" onwards, they saw Metallica declining and did not enjoy the latest albums as much as the previous four. Why? Again..I say production.
This can be argued to no end...

On a different note: Anyone seen the video for "The Unnamed Feeling"? I really enjoy the video, and the visuals/camera-work is great. Also one of my favorite St. Anger tracks.

i think metallica should try making the next album with out bob rock
i love all of metallica's work ...but i think they can make a few more great
records.

Sadly.....I can't really fathom another record from Metallica......

if they do make one.....I know they can't really get much (dare I say) worse than they have gotten.....not to say they are bad, just to say that they have been blinded by Bob Rock.

If I ever get the chance to meet any of them.....I will beg them to drop Bob Rock...YOU SHOULD TOO! hah.

Every band Bob Rock works with he makes them more commercially sounding. He made Metallica lose there Raw Thrash feel when he produced the Black Album, although ...AJFA was bordering on Hard Rock/Metal. Also did the same thing with Motley Crue when producing Dr. Feelgood. Any other bands he messed up?

*Kicks the threads **** BUMP

Here's a question....Is there a piano playing on Orion? Listen to slower part. Crank it up and it sounds like there's a piano playing in the background...At about 5:18 you can start to hear it. That song still makes me stop and just listen.

piano? I had never noticed that.....probably just some extra bass fills.....because its really mellow sounding and warm.....but I'll have to listen for that

Is anyone goin to see metallica on tour in march?

I want NZ BDO-goers to tell me what their setlist was please?!?!?!


I'm seeing them in 6 days!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!! then in 2 days after that!!!!! Oh, shall be good. I've never seen the bastards too.

[QUOTE=chodeymcchode]i dont think so. theyve all been together (except rob) since 80 and theyve done great and made up good stuff together. they flow and theyre used to how each of them play. so i dont think any should be replaced, and theyre all frickin really good.[/QUOTE]

I don't think Lars should be replaced, because of the chemistry and all, I'm saying he could be if push came to shove and Metallica could still go on.

Lars may be a turkey, but he's the reason Metallica has gotten so far. As for Bob Rock, he helped craft the Black Album, so I'm not complaining. I just wish he hadn't f*cked up St Anger.

[QUOTE=sacrifice93.2]Lars may be a turkey, but he's the reason Metallica has gotten so far. As for Bob Rock, he helped craft the Black Album, so I'm not complaining. I just wish he hadn't f*cked up St Anger.[/QUOTE]

I second that.

uuuwww yay a Metallica thread :)

Where do i sign up??

[QUOTE=the four suckman]uuuwww yay a Metallica thread :)

Where do i sign up??[/QUOTE]

:confused:

[QUOTE=trinx8]Do any of you guys know Metallica's Setlist For Australia?
I'll be at their concert at the music bowl in Melbourne on the 28th. I can't ****in wait!!!!
As for the bassist topic-

Jason Newstead- I think Jason had ****loads of melody. He was so under-rated. He improvised with the songs, and did have a lot of good solos.

Rob Trujillo- So far, all that i have seen, is that Rob plays the same as the album recording onstage, which has pros and (mostly) cons. But he does look cool onstage though.

These are just my opinions and i'm sure lots of people will beg to differ.
If anyone could tell me the setlist for Australia, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanx
:evil: 666[/QUOTE]

U guys wanna see Rob play? Pick up a Suicidal Tendencies record or an Infectious Grooves record. That guy has monstrous chops(although I still really like Jason and Cliff)

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Gotta love these boys... Great Music that sounds good and is fun to play!

I'm seeing Metallica in just over 24 hours!!! Man I just can't wait, I'm [color=white]f[/color]ucking listnenin to them full volume, playing to it on the guitar and everything at the moment. I just so ****ing excited.

[QUOTE=BrownSugar]I'm seeing Metallica in just over 24 hours!!! Man I just can't wait, I'm [color=white]f[/color]ucking listnenin to them full volume, playing to it on the guitar and everything at the moment. I just so ****ing excited.[/QUOTE]


nice! time flies... :upset:

EDIT: prolly not for you, at the moment. :p

And I gotta go to work soon, I hate work :upset: It's gonna go so slow.

BRISBANE - 5 DAYS...MOSH PIT TIX...gettin ready

[QUOTE=BrownSugar]And I gotta go to work soon, I hate work :upset: It's gonna go so slow.[/QUOTE]



haha yea.

I hope they play Fade To Black, it's such an amazing song. I'm gonna have my lighter at the ready.

lol, sorry to keep going on about it, but they're gonna rock.

[QUOTE=BrownSugar]I hope they play Fade To Black, it's such an amazing song. I'm gonna have my lighter at the ready.[/QUOTE]

lmao. Fade to black = classic

[QUOTE=BrownSugar]I hope they play Fade To Black, it's such an amazing song. I'm gonna have my lighter at the ready.

lol, sorry to keep going on about it, but they're gonna rock.[/QUOTE]

They need to play the song that comes after it on the album :thumb:

BrownSugar = Doesn't like Metallica that much.

[QUOTE=JMetallica]They need to play the song that comes after it on the album :thumb:[/QUOTE]

trapped under ice?

You guys know nothing about the reason why metallica got populair in the first place pfff

[QUOTE=Rattlehead 502]You guys know nothing about the reason why metallica got populair in the first place pfff[/QUOTE]

I can see by your name you're going to say something about Dave Mustaines contribution to the band.

Care to enlighten us on just how Metallica came big?

[QUOTE=ThrashMaster27]I can see by your name you're going to say something about Dave Mustaines contribution to the band.

Care to enlighten us on just how Metallica came big?[/QUOTE]

Yes I can, and I will.
If you look at metallica's first album "kill em all" you will see that all the songs where written by Dave Mustaine. Now what manny people don't know is that metallica was already verry famous at the year 1983 cause of the release of that same album. They where not poppulair in the mainstream but in the underground metal scene, this is where it all begon. So if you look at it that way you'll see that the succes of mettalica begon with dave mustaine's lyrics that they've ussed. Even the song "the call of khulu" was written by dave mustaine (witch metallica denies, but hey :s ). SO, if metallica didn't used dave's songs, they might be unknow if you get my point. All I'm trying to say is, that if metallica didn't used dave's songs, megadeth would have used then probaly and then megadeth would be as populair as metallica, I hope you guy understand what I'm trying to say. Ok, metallica has some great songs but they are few. If you wanna hear some old skool trash metal you sould try megadeth cause they didn't loose the feeling of real trash metal ( only risk sucks, but dave mustaine says that to so :) ) thats it, I think?? :)

Megadeth only used 1 song that metallica already head and that song is called the mechanix, by metallica it's called the four horsemen. I think the megadeth version is way better and a whole lotta faster. But thats just me

He didn't write every song on Kill 'em All either. He helped co-write them, but he never wrote any of the songs by himself. Looking at interviews of the band after they kicked out Dave, they said he never really contributed as much as he should have. "Back then we only had the three of us writing and contributing, now we have all four, and we are better than ever." - James, 1984.