[QUOTE=cheeser1]the CIA reports its intelligence directly to him.
and to this day, bush and his cabinet insist that the intelligence was correct.[/QUOTE]


Well its still not proven that they didnt have them and hid them somewhere and it was pretty **** good evidence

Your all blind, just blind, thats all. If kerry gets into office you'll see what happens. im not arguing cuz' it gets us no where now does it?

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]Right, run up to a 300 lbs criminal with a shot gun and slap him, idiots! stupid liberal idiots! plus, im a martial artist and its not easy to fight. why am i replyuing anyway, ur prolly a fat 11 yr old looser stuffing french fries[/QUOTE]


wrong. i'm 16, about 185 lbs about 85% muscle, cus my job and i do weight lifting in my sparetime. i also eat healthy, and i know many methods of self defense, including disarming a criminal with a weapon. will they always work? no, they won't, but how often do you see a 300 lb man with a shotgun out in the open? be realistic here.

i probably kno more than u doumbass. so wy dont u get ur head out of ur *** and grow up just cuz we are bid bad america doesnt mean we should be such ignorrant pricks

[QUOTE=SKA_GUITARist]HE didnt know they were lies and thats been proven its the CIA's fault all along[/QUOTE]


So if I tell you cheeser1 is going to **** your mom and you go kill him, that makes you free of fault?

cheeser is a genius
[and if you can't trust megalomaniacs, why do you trust bush?]

[QUOTE]If kerry gets into office you'll see what happens.[/QUOTE]

....Maybe well get to see some good speeches....

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]Your all blind, just blind, thats all. If kerry gets into office you'll see what happens. im not arguing cuz' it gets us no where now does it?[/QUOTE]


WE'RE NOT ALL DEMOCRATS! Get it through your ****ing skull! I hate Kerry nearly as much as I hate Bush. Nader isn't much better either.

[QUOTE=TheBouncingSoul]and what does this have to do with bush and kerry?

i'm glad women have rights now to get decent jobs. it takes alot of pressure off of the man, becuase before he was always the one to provide money for food, bills, taxes, etc. now the women can help with that. So your saying that womens equal rights is responsible for women that get beaten by drunked men? I disagree.[/QUOTE]


Nothing with Bush or Kerry.

Yeah I am saying that every woman should be in the kitchen and get beaten by drunk men... exactly You've got my ticket.

The whole "women getting beaten by a drunken man" thing is ignorant, men are victims of domestic violence more than women are.

Women's lib is more than women being in controll of their own reproductive and economic futures... Women who are always working give up their tradational roles as the care giver for children.

[QUOTE=Joey Hoser]So if I tell you cheeser1 is going to **** your mom and you go kill him, that makes you free of fault?[/QUOTE]
ugh, if he's any indication of what his mom's like, there's no chance in hell i'd fu[color=white]ck[/color] her.

screw nader its a bush vote

[QUOTE=The Grimace]Women's lib is more than women being in controll of their own reproductive and economic futures... Women who are always working give up their tradational roles as the care giver for children.[/QUOTE]
what about women who don't have kids?
or women whose husbands are the "woman" in the relationship?
or lesbians?

the "women's lib" movement has (had?) one goal. equality of opportunity. that's one of the foundations of this country. your idea of appropriate gender roles for women is disgustingly out of line. you can't honestly say that the woman "belongs in" her traditional role, as if that's how it's "supposed to be."

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]1. Sadaam most likely shipped them via under ground rail road to syria or some towel head nation, and there was no 9/11 cuz we prevented it. and a few years after desert storm, Sadaam used siren gas on his own people! you cant trust megalomaniacs.[/QUOTE]

Siren gas?? thats a new one to me? whats it do, wail really loud, and flash red and blue, and causes seizures? sounds like a hell of a weapon. oh and its Saddam. you really amuse me.

[QUOTE=as_seen_on_tv]....Maybe well get to see some good speeches....[/QUOTE]



yeah that would be great... some word that are accually used in the english language .....no more bushisms

[QUOTE=TheBouncingSoul]that was 1993 dumbass. do some research before you post.
have you seen black hawk down, or read the book? ive seen the movie, and read the book, plus done extra research on it to boot. clinton was not fully responsible for the 18 deaths. General Garrison (sp?) ordered the raid, and did not alert any of the peacekeeping forces in teh area before the raid. The reason many were killed is because it took so long to organise the rescue convoy from the peacekeeping force which included pakistani's ,and the 10th mountian, etc.

yea i agree we got a tyrant out of power, but we had no reason to invade a countrys rule, and disrupt their daily way of life over there to get 1 man or these WMD's that i keep hearing about, but have no proof of. spare me.[/QUOTE]
Hey dumb ***, if clinton would have left the 2,000 marines in Somalia or had the Spectre gunships and bradley light tanks, then we would have had a big difference, and i have the historical documentarie on the somalian conflict.if u dont know war, then stfu

[QUOTE=TheBouncingSoul]Siren gas?? thats a new one to me? whats it do, wail really loud, and flash red and blue, and causes seizures? sounds like a hell of a weapon. oh and its Saddam. you really amuse me.[/QUOTE]


I wonder if he knows that it was America that gave him those weapons in the first place?

[QUOTE=TheBouncingSoul]Siren gas?? thats a new one to me? whats it do, wail really loud, and flash red and blue, and causes seizures? sounds like a hell of a weapon. oh and its Saddam. you really amuse me.[/QUOTE]

Wail really loud? how bout make your entire nervous system shut down and make you convulse and bleed internally :lol:

[QUOTE=GibsonShredder04]yeah that would be great... some word that are accually used in the english language .....no more bushisms[/QUOTE]

Bush can really relate to minorties because they make up stupid ****n izzle words too essay fo shizzle , ay homes

HAHAHA

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]Wail really loud? how bout make your entire nervous system shut down and make you convulse and bleed internally :lol:[/QUOTE]


That's Sarin gas you twat. He was mocking you.

[QUOTE=Joey Hoser]I wonder if he knows that it was America that gave him those weapons in the first place?[/QUOTE]

The French actually shipped them over, do you kow why france isnt in the war? because Iraq owes them billions in weapons. oh, the israelis also blew up a nuclear weapons facility that was made by the french, so ha!

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]Hey dumb ***, if clinton would have left the 2,000 marines in Somalia or had the Spectre gunships and bradley light tanks, then we would have had a big difference, and i have the historical documentarie on the somalian conflict.if u dont know war, then stfu[/QUOTE]
"the historical documentarie"


THE? as if there's just the one viewpoint on it. clinton is not up for reelection. bush is. we're talking about bush vs. kerry (or other alternatives to bush)

lucky 4 me i dont cuz im not a wigger

[QUOTE=Joey Hoser]That's Sarin gas you twat. He was mocking you.[/QUOTE]
oops my bad...

[QUOTE=Joey Hoser]That's Sarin gas you twat. He was mocking you.[/QUOTE]
:chug:

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]The French actually shipped them over, do you kow why france isnt in the war? because Iraq owes them billions in weapons. oh, the israelis also blew up a nuclear weapons facility that was made by the french, so ha![/QUOTE]
the US has supported dictators all over the world. we only do what's "right" (that is, remove them from power at a time when there is no need to) if we think it looks good, or we can get something out of it.

and don't bring up israel. they're building walls around an ethnically different population in their country. i think we should call those regions ghettos. thank the gods of irony.

[QUOTE=Joey Hoser]I wonder if he knows that it was America that gave him those weapons in the first place?[/QUOTE]


i highly doubt it. we have supplied iraq weapons, which in turn he used to invade kuwait and kill his own people.

"Hey dumb ***, if clinton would have left the 2,000 marines in Somalia or had the Spectre gunships and bradley light tanks, then we would have had a big difference, and i have the historical documentarie on the somalian conflict.if u dont know war, then stfu"

i didn't say clinton was 100% innocent did i? Would you prefer that those 2,000 marines in somolia get killed in a similar manner? of course those tanks would have made a difference, but they did have gunships on the raid. There also refered to as "little birds" equipped with rocketpods, and miniguns. The gunships are really what helped keep the somolais (sp?) off of the rangers to prevent even more casaulties. i doubt you know more about this than me if you think it happened in 1998.

[QUOTE=GibsonShredder04]lucky 4 me i dont cuz im not a wigger[/QUOTE]
the world has enough of em'

[QUOTE=TheBouncingSoul]i highly doubt it. we have supplied iraq weapons, which in turn he used to invade kuwait and kill his own people.

"Hey dumb ***, if clinton would have left the 2,000 marines in Somalia or had the Spectre gunships and bradley light tanks, then we would have had a big difference, and i have the historical documentarie on the somalian conflict.if u dont know war, then stfu"

i didn't say clinton was 100% innocent did i? Would you prefer that those 2,000 marines in somolia get killed in a similar manner? of course those tanks would have made a difference, but they did have gunships on the raid. There also refered to as "little birds" equipped with rocketpods, and miniguns. The gunships are really what helped keep the somolais (sp?) off of the rangers to prevent even more casaulties. i doubt you know more about this than me if you think it happened in 1998.[/QUOTE]
Usually people sway the history channel is useless but i seem to disagree, we gave Iraq weapons, true but small arms like M16A2's and M249 Saws, also tanks planes and missles, but not SCUD missles and Sir..Sarin gas. and the 2,000 marines had armor and air support, plus marines arent like army, they would have wiped the floor with the somalis. Plus, do you even know what an AC130 Gunship is? its a C130 cargo plane fitted with Cannons, chain-guns and missles. The black hawks and little birds did a good job thought, that is true

[QUOTE=Joey Hoser]That's Sarin gas you twat. He was mocking you.[/QUOTE]

Joey, cheeser1, and myself own this thread.

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]the world has enough of em'[/QUOTE]


thats very true......**** everyone is ****ing flippin on u 2day huh?

[QUOTE=GibsonShredder04]thats very true......**** everyone is ****ing flippin on u 2day huh?[/QUOTE]


Becuase hes pretty sane compared to these ideological radicals

[QUOTE=TheBouncingSoul]Joey, cheeser1, and myself own this thread.[/QUOTE]
:chug:

we should have a "not a dumbass" forum.

[QUOTE=SKA_GUITARist]Becuase hes pretty sane compared to these ideological radicals[/QUOTE]
OH MY GOD I AM SO RADICAL

what's radical? opposing violence? supporting equality? THAT'S CRAZYyyYYy!!!!

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]Usually people sway the history channel is useless but i seem to disagree, we gave Iraq weapons, true but small arms like M16A2's and M249 Saws, also tanks planes and missles, but not SCUD missles and Sir..Sarin gas[/QUOTE]


Sir...we gave him many weapons capible of doing just as much damage as Sarin gas or scuds. Please stop posting here...no wait, i want you to so i can make you look stupid. I have superior knowledge here my friend. :thumb:

[QUOTE=cheeser1]OH MY GOD I AM SO RADICAL

what's radical? opposing violence? supporting equality? THAT'S CRAZYyyYYy!!!![/QUOTE]

NO but telling and believin lies and acting accordingly is

[QUOTE=SKA_GUITARist]Becuase hes pretty sane compared to these ideological radicals[/QUOTE]


WHOAHOA!! Look at me! I don't like liers and death! I'm so radical!!

kerry or nader, doesn't matter to me

[QUOTE=SKA_GUITARist]Becuase hes pretty sane compared to these ideological radicals[/QUOTE]



yeah well atleast there not a bunch of ignorant hicks living in the 50's

[QUOTE=cheeser1]OH MY GOD I AM SO RADICAL

what's radical? opposing violence? supporting equality? THAT'S CRAZYyyYYy!!!![/QUOTE]


w0w m4n 7h47 15 kr4zy.

i second the "not dumbass forum"

[QUOTE=SKA_GUITARist]NO but telling and believin lies and acting accordingly is[/QUOTE]


What lies?