[QUOTE=Anarchist41289]i would have to say neither but then say kerry because bush is a moron who lies and steals and doesnt care about the economy but to be honest i know if kerry is elected he will suck too but not as much as bush... im only 14 but rumors of the draft coming back im sure as hell not favoring bush.[/QUOTE]
You like anarchy. We don't like you. Don't even speak, little boy.

[QUOTE=Anarchist41289]i would have to say neither but then say kerry because bush is a moron who lies and steals and doesnt care about the economy but to be honest i know if kerry is elected he will suck too but not as much as bush... im only 14 but rumors of the draft coming back im sure as hell not favoring bush.[/QUOTE]


Kerry may very well screw up America as bad as Bush, but I think it's safe to assume less people will die because of Kerry than Bush. So he gets my support.

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[QUOTE=Joey Hoser]Kerry may very well screw up America as bad as Bush, but I think it's safe to assume less people will die because of Kerry than Bush. So he gets my support.[/QUOTE]

quoted for the truth. Kerry seems to have plans for OUR soil not iraqs.

I also hear that Cheney is tied into a big company that is doing the reconstruction of iraq. Its really stupid, becuse Bush and dick win. Bush gets to waste tax money to blow it up, and Cheney takes the other part and spends it to rebuild it.

Do any of you remember when bush said he wouldn't spen any american money of the reconstrution of iraq? then he asked congress for $187 million to rebuild it. what an oxymoron. i rest my post.

[QUOTE=cheeser1]wait, you mean that's what they say, or that's what you say?

and i agree, kucinich wins the "best politician" award, hands down.

and what's that "women's lib" comment? you think women shouldn't be equal? that they should be restricted in their roles in society, while men are not? explain.[/QUOTE]

No thats what I hear all of the family values groups saying.

Women's Lib destroyed the family. They wanted equal rights and they got them... However there is an underlying idea that women can do everything a man can... and still do all the tradational women's roles... The whole idea of "bring home the bacon and cook it too" is a lie, it can clearly be seen by families today. Also, the whole idea of not needing a man as a bread winner is both a positive and a negative, it is good because before women were stuck in abusive relationships and had no way out as they were dependent on the husband, however now they will pass by men all together or get divorced or whatever and just have kids on their own, and a lot of the times those kids feel abandoned because women have to work so much and also they lose 1 aspect to the father/mother dynamic... One is the punisher (usually the dad) and one is the nurturer (usually the mom).

Men have lost the string that attachs them to their offspring, and it results in higher crime etc.

The one thing that ties in the MASS majority of prisioners is that they were raised by a single parent mother.

[QUOTE=The Grimace]No thats what I hear all of the family values groups saying.

Women's Lib destroyed the family. They wanted equal rights and they got them... However there is an underlying idea that women can do everything a man can... and still do all the tradational women's roles... The whole idea of "bring home the bacon and cook it too" is a lie, it can clearly be seen by families today. Also, the whole idea of not needing a man as a bread winner is both a positive and a negative, it is good because before women were stuck in abusive relationships and had no way out as they were dependent on the husband, however now they will pass by men all together or get divorced or whatever and just have kids on their own, and a lot of the times those kids feel abandoned because women have to work so much and also they lose 1 aspect to the father/mother dynamic... One is the punisher (usually the dad) and one is the nurturer (usually the mom).

Men have lost the string that attachs them to their offspring, and it results in higher crime etc.

The one thing that ties in the MASS majority of prisioners is that they were raised by a single parent mother.[/QUOTE]

and what does this have to do with bush and kerry?

i'm glad women have rights now to get decent jobs. it takes alot of pressure off of the man, becuase before he was always the one to provide money for food, bills, taxes, etc. now the women can help with that. So your saying that womens equal rights is responsible for women that get beaten by drunked men? I disagree.

Hell... I'd have to say Bush cuz' kerry is a regular liberal democrat, a liar and a wining little rat. Plus he wants to take away our 2nd amendment, right to bear arms, the only protection between us and the common street criminal.

[QUOTE=TheBouncingSoul]quoted for the truth. Kerry seems to have plans for OUR soil not iraqs.

I also hear that Cheney is tied into a big company that is doing the reconstruction of iraq. Its really stupid, becuse Bush and dick win. Bush gets to waste tax money to blow it up, and Cheney takes the other part and spends it to rebuild it.

Do any of you remember when bush said he wouldn't spen any american money of the reconstrution of iraq? then he asked congress for $187 million to rebuild it. what an oxymoron. i rest my post.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, it's called Haliburton.

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]Hell... I'd have to say Bush cuz' kerry is a regular liberal democrat, a liar and a wining little rat. Plus he wants to take away our 2nd amendment, right to bear arms, the only protection between us and the common street criminal.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, cause Bush has never lied... :rolleyes:

this is really a hard one cause im conservative, but bush has gone too far with iraq

[QUOTE=SKA_GUITARist]Bush

that was easy[/QUOTE]





wow ur dumb its even eisier----------ABB****** KERRY!!!!!! :thumb: :thumb:

[QUOTE=bluesman5000]this is really a hard one cause im conservative, but bush has gone too far with iraq[/QUOTE]


:amaze:

Wow...

A conservative who can admit fault with Bush...

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]Hell... I'd have to say Bush cuz' kerry is a regular liberal democrat, a liar and a wining little rat. Plus he wants to take away our 2nd amendment, right to bear arms, the only protection between us and the common street criminal.[/QUOTE]

do you have a source for that too? probally not. Guns are not the only defense, you have your fists, feet, knee, elbow, and head. or just pick up somethin around you and beat his ***. Bush lied alot. read my above post about reconstrution of iraq.

yep one of a kind

[QUOTE=bluesman5000]this is really a hard one cause im conservative, but bush has gone too far with iraq[/QUOTE]

i tip my hat to you, friend.

[QUOTE=TheBouncingSoul]quoted for the truth. Kerry seems to have plans for OUR soil not iraqs.

I also hear that Cheney is tied into a big company that is doing the reconstruction of iraq. Its really stupid, becuse Bush and dick win. Bush gets to waste tax money to blow it up, and Cheney takes the other part and spends it to rebuild it.

Do any of you remember when bush said he wouldn't spen any american money of the reconstrution of iraq? then he asked congress for $187 million to rebuild it. what an oxymoron. i rest my post.[/QUOTE]


Stupid, Stupid, Stupid... if bush didnt declare war on Sadaam them we would have another 9/11, 187 mil? big deal! what happend in 1998 in somalia when Clinton got 18 americans slaughterd cuz he was ***** whipped by the UN? :confused: i understand that Bush lied in not spending US money, but we captured a butcher who supported terrorists and had WMD's, and stopped another terror attack.

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]Stupid, Stupid, Stupid... if bush didnt declare war on Sadaam them we would have another 9/11, 187 mil? big deal! what happend in 1998 in somalia when Clinton got 18 americans slaughterd cuz he was ***** whipped by the UN? :confused: i understand that Bush lied in not spending US money, but we captured a butcher who supported terrorists and had WMD's, and stopped another terror attack.[/QUOTE]


that was 1993 dumbass. do some research before you post.
have you seen black hawk down, or read the book? ive seen the movie, and read the book, plus done extra research on it to boot. clinton was not fully responsible for the 18 deaths. General Garrison (sp?) ordered the raid, and did not alert any of the peacekeeping forces in teh area before the raid. The reason many were killed is because it took so long to organise the rescue convoy from the peacekeeping force which included pakistani's ,and the 10th mountian, etc.

yea i agree we got a tyrant out of power, but we had no reason to invade a countrys rule, and disrupt their daily way of life over there to get 1 man or these WMD's that i keep hearing about, but have no proof of. spare me.

[QUOTE=ledchilibebesreturn][b]bush 4 Prez Kerry Is A Flammer[/b][/QUOTE]
you're just stupid. good lord. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Payseur2]bush went to yale (moron)[/QUOTE]
as if this hasn't been addressed enough....
no, bush BOUGHT his way into yale, and BARELY passed.
[QUOTE=Joey Hoser]It's also common knowledge that he has a wopping IQ of 91...[/QUOTE]
yes, but i think they've convinced him that it's on a 100 point scale.
that would be the first A he's ever gotten in his life! ha.
[QUOTE=superbassperson17]ok nazi. and these " sources" you all supply, they are all a bunch of slanted liberal ****. [/QUOTE]
nazi = conservative.

idiot.

and so you know, you have yet to cite ONE fact, picture, statistic, nothing. you just say "my cousin says..." or "the president says..." or "i think..."

why don't you try LOOKING INTO THINGS before you act like you know anything about it. cause you don't.
[QUOTE=mullet_monster]All of you are bitching about Bush, but if Kerry were to win the election then all of you would start bitching about him. Who cares most of you aren't even old enough to vote. Why would "punks" care about politics anyway? Shouldn't you be rebeling from adults?[/QUOTE]
if kerry did what bush did, yes. but as of right now, we need an alternative. so, rather than stick with a moron who gets innocents killed, and who screws up domestic policy... i think i'll vote against him.
and we care about politics becuase we CARE ABOUT PEOPLE DYING. maybe you don't, but i'd like to think that if political progress is made, we'll save some lives.
and some of us ARE adults. punk isn't a lame teenage phase. if that's what you think, you should just shut up now.


And BouncingSoul, that was splendid.

[QUOTE=atdi come back]THIS JUST IN bush created a million jobs in 3 months, he obviously doesn't care about the working man[/QUOTE]
the number of jobs bush has created is not enough to keep up with population growth.

YAY BUSH!! he's ALMOST adequate!!!
[QUOTE=atdi come back]some jap country[/QUOTE]
i think you mean japan. it's the only "jap country" - and don't say "jap" it sounds like you're either a racist or over age 70.
[QUOTE=The Grimace]No thats what I hear all of the family values groups saying.
...etc...
The one thing that ties in the MASS majority of prisioners is that they were raised by a single parent mother.[/QUOTE]
and the mass majority of single-parent/mother households are also poor. being poor puts them in the single mother situation, and it also leads to crime. correlation does not imply causality, your inmate/single-mom correlation is significant, however

and there are plenty of single fathers who do fine. and plenty of single mothers. and parents who both work. women are better mothers if they are free to transcend gender roles and maximize their potential (a privilege which men have essentially had for quite some time).
[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]Hell... I'd have to say Bush cuz' kerry is a regular liberal democrat, a liar and a wining little rat. Plus he wants to take away our 2nd amendment, right to bear arms, the only protection between us and the common street criminal.[/QUOTE]
1) bush founded his war on lies. who's the bigger liar?
2) the 2nd amendment applies to militias. you and your buddy bubba do not constitute a milita.

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]Stupid, Stupid, Stupid... if bush didnt declare war on Sadaam them we would have another 9/11, 187 mil? big deal! what happend in 1998 in somalia when Clinton got 18 americans slaughterd cuz he was ***** whipped by the UN? :confused: i understand that Bush lied in not spending US money, but we captured a butcher who supported terrorists and had WMD's, and stopped another terror attack.[/QUOTE]


This was already in the thread... Read dumbass:

[quote=Joey Hoser]Hate to break it to you, but that was just Bush lying. There never was any links between them. Bin Laden hated Saddam, and was vocal about it. Saddam's non-secular government was exactly what Al Quida fights against. Saddam also spent most of his time keeping terrorist groups including Al Quida out of Iraq.

How about giving just one source showing any sort of correlation between the two. I dare you.

Don't come out acting like you know everything when all you've heard is what Bush is telling you. It doesn't even take an educated person to realize they had nothing to do with each other.[/quote]


He also did not have WMD's. The only weapons found were a half dozen containers of Sarin gas that expired 15 years ago. Maybe if you ate it all you would die.



I hate having to repeat myself every couple of pages...

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]Hell... I'd have to say Bush cuz' kerry is a regular liberal democrat, a liar and a wining little rat. Plus he wants to take away our 2nd amendment, right to bear arms, the only protection between us and the common street criminal.[/QUOTE]



4 one if no one had guns then wtf are u afraid of???? A burgler with a sharp piece of paper???? wtf would you need agun 4 if no one had one. Its far to easy just to blow someone away. and untill all the phycopaths are outa here (Which will never happen) we need to give them less of a chance to have a firearm. :D

there were no weapons in iraq buddy, there was no next 9/11

that was for the dude way up there talking about 911

[QUOTE]that was 1993 dumbass. do some research before you post.[/QUOTE]

Wow,you got him on that one.

[QUOTE=TheBouncingSoul]do you have a source for that too? probally not. Guns are not the only defense, you have your fists, feet, knee, elbow, and head. or just pick up somethin around you and beat his ***. Bush lied alot. read my above post about reconstrution of iraq.[/QUOTE]

Right, run up to a 300 lbs criminal with a shot gun and slap him, idiots! stupid liberal idiots! plus, im a martial artist and its not easy to fight. why am i replyuing anyway, ur prolly a fat 11 yr old looser stuffing french fries

its simple bush is a lying sack of **** and should be impeached

[QUOTE=GibsonShredder04]4 one if no one had guns then wtf are u afraid of???? A burgler with a sharp piece of paper???? wtf would you need agun 4 if no one had one. Its far to easy just to blow someone away. and untill all the phycopaths are outa here (Which will never happen) we need to give them less of a chance to have a firearm. :D[/QUOTE]


HAHA! THATS FUNNY, YOU KNOW WHERE THEY GET GUNS? THEY GET THEM FROM DRUG DEALERS FROM FORIEGHN NATIONS AND THEY ALSO STEAL THEM.

Howard Dean.....Hwaaaaa!!!

Im a member of the NRA and proud

[QUOTE=GibsonShredder04]its simple bush is a lying sack of **** and should be impeached[/QUOTE]


Shut up dumbass newbie you dont know shiit

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]HAHA! THATS FUNNY, YOU KNOW WHERE THEY GET GUNS? THEY GET THEM FROM DRUG DEALERS FROM FORIEGHN NATIONS AND THEY ALSO STEAL THEM.[/QUOTE]
all caps makes you look stupid.
you're the kind of moron who is going to hate drug users becuase "drug money supports terrorism" aren't you? the kind of moron who hates gays because gays "threaten our nation's integrity, and make us prone to terrorists"

(both of which were platforms of the bush administration at one point)

[QUOTE=bluesman5000]there were no weapons in iraq buddy, there was no next 9/11

that was for the dude way up there talking about 911[/QUOTE]


1. Sadaam most likely shipped them via under ground rail road to syria or some towel head nation, and there was no 9/11 cuz we prevented it. and a few years after desert storm, Sadaam used siren gas on his own people! you cant trust megalomaniacs.

[QUOTE=SKA_GUITARist]Shut up dumbass newbie you dont know shiit[/QUOTE]
sending people to war on the basis of lies (which he knew were lies), with the motivation that it will make him look good and fix his image, as well as provide a superficial boost in the economy (mostly through illegitimate defense spending)

that's an impeachable offense.

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]HAHA! THATS FUNNY, YOU KNOW WHERE THEY GET GUNS? THEY GET THEM FROM DRUG DEALERS FROM FORIEGHN NATIONS AND THEY ALSO STEAL THEM.[/QUOTE]


its not the ****ing drug dealers im scared of im afraid of the crazy reneck hicks that are still living in the 50's and have confederate flags in their pickup trucks.

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]1. Sadaam most likely shipped them via under ground rail road to syria or some towel head nation, and there was no 9/11 cuz we prevented it. and a few years after desert storm, Sadaam used siren gas on his own people! you cant trust megalomaniacs.[/QUOTE]


READ THE POSTS! He didn't have WMD's. He had nothing to do with terrorism! Defend your arguments or stop posting!

thats a good point but still we shouldve looked into it more

[QUOTE=pcgamer]Right, run up to a 300 lbs criminal with a shot gun and slap him, idiots! stupid liberal idiots! plus, im a martial artist and its not easy to fight. why am i replyuing anyway, ur prolly a fat 11 yr old looser stuffing french fries[/QUOTE]
......
[QUOTE=pcgamer]HAHA! THATS FUNNY, YOU KNOW WHERE THEY GET GUNS? THEY GET THEM FROM DRUG DEALERS FROM FORIEGHN NATIONS AND THEY ALSO STEAL THEM[/QUOTE] ^no.

Its unbelievable how full of inciteful comments you are.:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=cheeser1]all caps makes you look stupid.
you're the kind of moron who is going to hate drug users becuase "drug money supports terrorism" aren't you? the kind of moron who hates gays because gays "threaten our nation's integrity, and make us prone to terrorists"

(both of which were platforms of the bush administration at one point)[/QUOTE]

Listen man, i don t hate gays or drug users, i sympathize for drug users and i dont care if your gay or not, if your a good guy your a good guy. u dont know me so stop thinking u do

[QUOTE=PcGamer3006]1. Sadaam most likely shipped them via under ground rail road to syria or some towel head nation, and there was no 9/11 cuz we prevented it. and a few years after desert storm, Sadaam used siren gas on his own people! you cant trust megalomaniacs.[/QUOTE]
shut up you racist.

and saddam (not sadaam) has no connection with bin laden. this is FACT.

and if you can't trust megalomaniacs, why do you trust bush?

[QUOTE=cheeser1]sending people to war on the basis of lies (which he knew were lies), with the motivation that it will make him look good and fix his image, as well as provide a superficial boost in the economy (mostly through illegitimate defense spending)

that's an impeachable offense.[/QUOTE]

HE didnt know they were lies and thats been proven its the CIA's fault all along

[QUOTE=SKA_GUITARist]HE didnt know they were lies and thats been proven its the CIA's fault all along[/QUOTE]
the CIA reports its intelligence directly to him.
and to this day, bush and his cabinet insist that the intelligence was correct.

[QUOTE=GibsonShredder04]its not the ****ing drug dealers im scared of im afraid of the crazy reneck hicks that are still living in the 50's and have confederate flags in their pickup trucks.[/QUOTE]
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