Probably been posted, but I don't give a ****. Does anybody have any info (Not baseless bull**** assumptions or rumors, I want real gold here) on the release date of the DVD or the next album? Toolband.com is probably just throwing **** out there to confuse readers, which they seem to enjoy, so if any of you have any actual first hand information on any TOOL news, it'd rawk the house.

Thanks.

cd is rumored to come out april next year, dvd some time sooner

Wait... Who said April?

I guess you werent here, but yes. . .they are the slowest bunch ever :(

So... Do we have proof about this?

meh, not really. am jsut playing around to proove the point that that aril **** could be as true as any thing cause there isnt anything solid to believe in

I would guess that the dvd comes out after the album..
And that there'll be atleast 6 months between the album and dvd (even if the dvd comes out first)

[QUOTE=Kage]I finally gave in and I'm downloading a lot of PT as well, because I simply can't find it to buy at a good price. Eventually I'd like to work up a legit collection, but I'm doing the same thing as you. I realized the other day I've heard five full PT albums, which is more than I was aware of. I've never heard Lightbulb Sun, becuase I think I foudn a good deal to purchase it and I'm going to do that, so I can't vouch for the quality of any of the other songs (although, is there ever really a doubt?).[/QUOTE]

I see no reason to buy their rare albums used, because it doesn't support the band in any way..

I think itll be backwards, dvd comes out first

They've said something along the lines of that they want to focus on the album before working on the dvd

meh am starting to not give a f uck, itll come out when ever it comes :(

[QUOTE=Mr Herb]meh am starting to not give a f uck, itll come out when ever it comes :([/QUOTE]

Precisely

which tool songs have the weirdest time signature sections? i need ab out a 1 minute sample which will headf*ck my teacher. I was thinking the section towards the end of lateralus, or the intro to ticks and leeches.......but wasn't sure.

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]which tool songs have the weirdest time signature sections? i need ab out a 1 minute sample which will headf*ck my teacher. I was thinking the section towards the end of lateralus, or the intro to ticks and leeches.......but wasn't sure.[/QUOTE]

The main guitar riff of Lateralus. 46 and 2. Parabola. Third Eye.

Isn't the Grudge really weird to?

the end of Push1t is really wierd.

It all depends on what you'd define as wierd.

We were talking about odd time sigs.

Hey Big Tool fan that knows no other tool fans here

My dad took lateralus can anyone upload it for me?

I would be very thankful

how old is this thread?

Check the first post for the date.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Check the first post for the date.[/QUOTE]

Oh yea

Cool to see another Tool fan....why did your dad take Lateralus?

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]I see no reason to buy their rare albums used, because it doesn't support the band in any way..[/QUOTE]
Late on answering this, but I had to.

A lot of people don't seem to understand something that's so obvious to me, that it drives me crazy. I have never, not once, in my entire life, bought a CD from a band just to support the band. Besides raising their sales by one unit, the band sees VIRTUALLY NO MONEY from CD purchases. If you're really interested in supporting a band, go to shows and buy merchandise there, and download every album you want. That'll save you a lot of money and you'll still be supporting the band more than you ever will if you bought 30 copies of each of their CDs.

I buy CDs because I love the experience of opening a CD, having it in my hands, looking at the artwork, adding it to my CD collection. I don't download leaks because I like the anticipation of going to the store and buying the CD the day it comes out, opening it up and having fresh, exciting music to listen to.

[QUOTE=Maynard James Keenan]Cool to see another Tool fan....why did your dad take Lateralus?[/QUOTE]


He thinks it's satanic or something

you think you can help me?

[QUOTE=Kage]Late on answering this, but I had to.

A lot of people don't seem to understand something that's so obvious to me, that it drives me crazy. I have never, not once, in my entire life, bought a CD from a band just to support the band. Besides raising their sales by one unit, the band sees VIRTUALLY NO MONEY from CD purchases. If you're really interested in supporting a band, go to shows and buy merchandise there, and download every album you want. That'll save you a lot of money and you'll still be supporting the band more than you ever will if you bought 30 copies of each of their CDs.

I buy CDs because I love the experience of opening a CD, having it in my hands, looking at the artwork, adding it to my CD collection. I don't download leaks because I like the anticipation of going to the store and buying the CD the day it comes out, opening it up and having fresh, exciting music to listen to.[/QUOTE]
I agree whole heartedly with this whole post. I don't buy CD's to support the band I buy it for the feeling. It's so much more fulfilling when you buy the CD.

That's what I did when I was getting all my Hendrix stuff together

[QUOTE=brittallica]He thinks it's satanic or something

you think you can help me?[/QUOTE]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Maynard doesn't believe in God, so one could assume he doesn't believe in Satan either. The album doesn't even have any cursing on it. Make your dad listen to it over and over until he sees the brilliance. Wait, than he wouldn't give it back to you either. hah.

[QUOTE=Moses]I agree whole heartedly with this whole post. I don't buy CD's to support the band I buy it for the feeling. It's so much more fulfilling when you buy the CD.[/QUOTE]
Yes, very well put in only two sentences, as opposed to my whole rant. It just really steams me up sometimes.

Anyway, saw Pelican last night...it was [i]awesome[/i]. The sound coming from the stage was unreal, it's like it's not even coming from only two guitars, a bass, and drums. Really epic stuff. However, the night was somewhat downed by the fuc[font=]king[/font] shi[font=]tty[/font] opening bands. Oh well, Pelican kicked major a[font=]ss[/font]. The band stayed around to talk to the fans afterwards, it was really cool.

[QUOTE=Kage]Late on answering this, but I had to.

A lot of people don't seem to understand something that's so obvious to me, that it drives me crazy. I have never, not once, in my entire life, bought a CD from a band just to support the band. Besides raising their sales by one unit, the band sees VIRTUALLY NO MONEY from CD purchases. If you're really interested in supporting a band, go to shows and buy merchandise there, and download every album you want. That'll save you a lot of money and you'll still be supporting the band more than you ever will if you bought 30 copies of each of their CDs.

[b]I buy CDs because I love the experience of opening a CD, having it in my hands, looking at the artwork, adding it to my CD collection. I don't download leaks because I like the anticipation of going to the store and buying the CD the day it comes out, opening it up and having fresh, exciting music to listen to.[/b][/QUOTE]

[i]That's[/i] what the real experience is.

[url]http://www.pluggedinonline.com/music/music/a0000926.cfm[/url]


Dude with dad that says tool is satanic, show that to your dad!

[QUOTE=Kage]Late on answering this, but I had to.

A lot of people don't seem to understand something that's so obvious to me, that it drives me crazy. I have never, not once, in my entire life, bought a CD from a band just to support the band. Besides raising their sales by one unit, the band sees VIRTUALLY NO MONEY from CD purchases. If you're really interested in supporting a band, go to shows and buy merchandise there, and download every album you want. That'll save you a lot of money and you'll still be supporting the band more than you ever will if you bought 30 copies of each of their CDs.

I buy CDs because I love the experience of opening a CD, having it in my hands, looking at the artwork, adding it to my CD collection. I don't download leaks because I like the anticipation of going to the store and buying the CD the day it comes out, opening it up and having fresh, exciting music to listen to.[/QUOTE]
Tons and tons of smaller bands have been dropped from record labels because downloading has hurt their sales. While you're really not taking away much money from an artist by downloading, the chances of them staying on a label (which for a lot of small bands is a dream come true to be signed) become slim.

I've done my fair share of YSI downloading, but I've tried to avoid it whenever possible and I don't really download from file sharing programs like Limewire.

Whenever I have the cash I still buy albums so I don't care. They still get the same amount of money whether I download or not. I do only like to buy albums I feel are worth it though. Some albums you just know are worth buying.

[QUOTE=satchforever]:lol: :lol: :lol:

Maynard doesn't believe in God, so one could assume he doesn't believe in Satan either. The album doesn't even have any cursing on it. Make your dad listen to it over and over until he sees the brilliance. Wait, than he wouldn't give it back to you either. hah.[/QUOTE]
Maynard never said he didn't believe in God.

[QUOTE=Mr Herb][url]http://www.pluggedinonline.com/music/music/a0000926.cfm[/url]


Dude with dad that says tool is satanic, show that to your dad![/QUOTE]

Taken from that site:

[QUOTE=pluggedinonline.com]As if inspired by Matthew 18:21-22, "The Grudge" urges listeners to forgive others.[/QUOTE]
Wishful thinking.

[QUOTE=pluggedinonline.com]Angry at human parasites, a man berates them on "Ticks and Leeches" [B](once using the f-word)[/B] and hopes they suffer for the pain they’ve caused.[/QUOTE]
Where?

[QUOTE=pluggedinonline.com]The music remains foreboding, but Tool’s lyrics have brightened considerably since 1996’s Ænima.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.

[QUOTE=pluggedinonline.com]Nevertheless, Lateralus]marks a dramatic improvement for the act that has Ticketmaster using a stopwatch to see how long it takes them to sell out concerts (three minutes in Atlanta; [B]sixty seconds[/B] in New York).[/QUOTE]
Holy sh[font=]i[/font]t!!

[QUOTE=pluggedinonline.com]Pray that, in the musicians’ search for truth, God sharpens Tool.[/QUOTE]
That pissed me off. I "pray" that people stop rubbing religion in the faces of others.

[QUOTE=Moses]Maynard never said he didn't believe in God.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure?

[QUOTE=Sliptallica] Some albums you just know are worth buying.[/QUOTE]
Leviathan :thumb:

[QUOTE=satchforever]Are you sure?[/QUOTE]

Yes. He may say "**** your god" or somthing like that but he never said he didn't believe in a god. For all we know he could be a Christian.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]Taken from that site:


Wishful thinking.


Where?


Agreed.


Holy sh[font=]i[/font]t!!


That pissed me off. I "pray" that people stop rubbing religion in the faces of others.[/QUOTE]


Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

I'm young and get around alot so I see all these religions people
try to force on other people and it's pissed me off to the point of
wanting to never come back...if that makes sense

My mom is the worst about it everyone she meets she has to pursacute*
and rub her religion in there face's

I got to get that cd back!

I can kinda see why he might not like undertow with some of the stuff one there
but if that's the case why not just take undertow?

Britt, you should tell your dad why he thinks tool is satanic.

Tool is actually against what his father wants though because his father wants to make him into a right-wing christian. Nothings wrong with being one but it's the individual's decision. Tool is about choosing your own path and his father wants him to follow his.

Here's a nice Zappa quote: "I made a song about dental floss but did anyone's teeth get whiter?". Another one: "There are more love songs than anyother kind. If music could take control, we'd all love one another".

Tool? Not Satanic in the least. They are a great band with a message of: 'Think for Yourself, Question Authority.' Ask your father why he thinks that particular album is Satanic. There is virtually no cursing (the F-Bomb in Ticks and Leeches is hard to pick out at the first listen, but you can), although Ænema makes up for any swearing since.

There are no Satanic themes:

[B]The Grudge:[/B] Forgiveness.

[B]Eon Blue Apocalypse:[/B] The end of something (I believe).

[B]The Patient:[/B] Patience is a virtue in any relationship.

[B]Mantra:[/B] Monotany and Boring Repetition.

[B]Schism:[/B] Rift in a relationship, longing to reunite.

[B]Parabol/Parabola:[/B] Love, the feeling of euphoria.

[B]Ticks and Leeches:[/B] Facing demons.

[B]Lateralus(is):[/B] Spiritual ascendancy, spiritual truth

[B]D/R/T:[/B] A change/casting away your old, shallow self/reaped rewards.

[B]Fiaap de Oiad:[/B] Ultimate truth.

End of discussion.