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funkyhoney 04-15-2010 10:19 PM

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Gattsu347 04-15-2010 11:00 PM

[QUOTE=Sablate McNuff;17928723]No, DELAY + SNARE = NEEDS RAAYL.[/QUOTE]

pish posh

Convectuoso 04-15-2010 11:39 PM

[QUOTE=burtonbassist_101;17928379]I never really could get into reverb either, not even with guitar. At least not when I'm playing one. It just... bugs me.[/QUOTE]
I could not disagree with the post any more sorry.


A good sounding lead always usually has a reverb on it, and usually a light to heavy delay. IT JUST SOUNDS THE BALLS.

Convectuoso 04-15-2010 11:41 PM

[QUOTE=funkyhoney;17928696]I like good use of delay. Like vocal delay.[/QUOTE]
Delay is the best effect ever invented. Period.



I dare anyone to prove me wrong.



Chorus...meh...It always seems quite cheesy to me. But I don't hate it.

Gattsu347 04-16-2010 12:05 AM

unm in pretty sure octavider is the best effect ever ok.

Spaceman Spiff 04-16-2010 12:57 AM

The best thing is being able to switch from clean to distorted. I love distortion pedals.

Convectuoso 04-16-2010 01:06 AM

Tube Amp Distortion >>>>>> Distortion pedals.

BenJammin 04-16-2010 05:01 AM

Chorus sounds like the 80's. There was a lot of bad music in the 80's.

Sablate McNuff 04-16-2010 07:22 AM

[quote=Joelbassman;17928881]Delay is the best effect ever invented. Period.



I dare anyone to prove me wrong.



Chorus...meh...It always seems quite cheesy to me. But I don't hate it.[/quote]


Stereo delay is what makes vocals in modern recordings sound so good.

burtonbassist_102 04-16-2010 12:56 PM

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;17928878]I could not disagree with the post any more sorry.


A good sounding lead always usually has a reverb on it, and usually a light to heavy delay. IT JUST SOUNDS THE BALLS.[/QUOTE]

Oh I agree, I love it when OTHER people are using it. It's always tits.

But when [I]I[/I] play guitar/bass and there's reverb, it just bugs the hell out of me. I don't know why.

And yes, delay is awesome.

Convectuoso 04-16-2010 03:45 PM

[quote=Sablate McNuff;17929248]Stereo delay is what makes vocals in modern recordings sound so good.[/quote]
90% of the time yes.



Other times it can come off sounding cheesy or just clutter up the mix with inaudible delays. But yeah most of the time it sounds pretty boss.




Burton: Ahh I see your point. Tbh there aren't many suitable places live or in studio recordings where reverb on a bass is gonna work/make a difference/be heard. Unless you're in a prog rock band lol.

FunkMetalBass 04-16-2010 03:50 PM

[quote=Joelbassman;17930036]90% of the time yes.



Other times it can come off sounding cheesy or just clutter up the mix with inaudible delays. But yeah most of the time it sounds pretty boss.




Burton: Ahh I see your point. Tbh there aren't many suitable places live or in studio recordings where reverb on a bass is gonna work/make a difference/be heard. Unless you're in a prog rock band lol.[/quote]

For the most part, I'd say the same about most effects on bass. Unless you have a solo or bass interlude (really, any time when there's a lot of sonic space available for the bass), the modulating effects are relatively moot.

fatbandit 04-16-2010 04:27 PM

I use reverb loads.

Convectuoso 04-16-2010 04:38 PM

Lol I use it a bit in my band. Specifically for a new thing I wrote since I got my FX unit. But before that the only effect I ever had was overdrive.


Link me to your myspace FB?

Sablate McNuff 04-17-2010 03:19 AM

[url]http://www.myspace.com/maeslostempire[/url]

fatbandit 04-17-2010 08:26 AM

beaten to it ;) there isn't massive amounts of reverb on any of those tracks actually! Little bit of reverby delay in the middle of Last of the Alarms, but that's about it. Two of them were recorded before I had a reverb pedal, and one of them is just about the most basic thing we've ever written :)

looking into getting my Matamp modded to have a <50Hz filter and a noise gate fitted internally. wouldn't mind getting the DI out look at either - it's a great sounding amp, but Matamp really skimped on the DI aspect of it (it only has a 1/4" unbalanced jack DI output which is really noisy - i don't even know if it's post or pre EQ...), and on general features. i think that might make it just about the most perfect head ever.

Sablate McNuff 04-17-2010 08:49 AM

[quote=fatbandit;17930945]beaten to it ;) there isn't massive amounts of reverb on any of those tracks actually! Little bit of reverby delay in the middle of Last of the Alarms, but that's about it. Two of them were recorded before I had a reverb pedal, and one of them is just about the most basic thing we've ever written :)

looking into getting my Matamp modded to have a <50Hz filter and a noise gate fitted internally. wouldn't mind getting the DI out look at either - it's a great sounding amp, but Matamp really skimped on the DI aspect of it (it only has a 1/4" unbalanced jack DI output which is really noisy - i don't even know if it's post or pre EQ...), and on general features. i think that might make it just about the most perfect head ever.[/quote]

If possible, definitely get the 50hz HPF in the form of a switch on the front so that you can just flick it on or off.

fatbandit 04-17-2010 03:11 PM

Why? It doesn't make you sound worse. Seriously, until you've experienced it, you don't notice how much of a positive difference it makes ALL the time. I'd want something to turn the decimator on or off though, or at least a threshold knob which I could turn all the way off.

Sablate McNuff 04-18-2010 11:10 PM

[quote=fatbandit;17931465]Why? It doesn't make you sound worse. Seriously, until you've experienced it, you don't notice how much of a positive difference it makes ALL the time. I'd want something to turn the decimator on or off though, or at least a threshold knob which I could turn all the way off.[/quote]

I run my rig with a crossover and a stereo power amp. I sat there for hours trying out different crossover frequencies and turning on and off the different amp channels. I ultimately decided that 140Hz was a good crossover point for me, and anything above runs to my 4x10 and everything below runs to my 1x18.

Feeling that below E presence really makes a difference to me, especially when my tone (song-specific) are all focused on the sub-400Hz area.

I also suggested it as a selling point. In the event that you try to sell it, it will look like an added feature, and will allow you to push for some more money.

burtonbassist_102 04-19-2010 03:30 AM

Gonna have a LOTR movie marathon tomorrow. It will be epic.

fatbandit 04-19-2010 09:28 AM

[quote=Sablate McNuff;17934294]I run my rig with a crossover and a stereo power amp. I sat there for hours trying out different crossover frequencies and turning on and off the different amp channels. I ultimately decided that 140Hz was a good crossover point for me, and anything above runs to my 4x10 and everything below runs to my 1x18.

Feeling that below E presence really makes a difference to me, especially when my tone (song-specific) are all focused on the sub-400Hz area.

I also suggested it as a selling point. In the event that you try to sell it, it will look like an added feature, and will allow you to push for some more money.[/quote]

It has my name on the front - I don't think it will sell particularly well ;) Can't see me getting rid of it ever tbh.

I honestly don't think the first fundamental at 42Hz on the E string is one that you feel or hear that much. I certainly don't miss it. So we'll see. My tone is centered on pretty much 350Hz and upwards - I don't need or want LOW lows.

I don't know if I'll be able to get it done anyway - the guy I'd normally use doesn't want to work with tube amps :(

FunkMetalBass 04-19-2010 09:43 AM

[quote=fatbandit;17934963]It has my name on the front - I don't think it will sell particularly well ;) Can't see me getting rid of it ever tbh.

I honestly don't think the first fundamental at 42Hz on the E string is one that you feel or hear that much. I certainly don't miss it. So we'll see. My tone is centered on pretty much 350Hz and upwards - I don't need or want LOW lows.

I don't know if I'll be able to get it done anyway - the guy I'd normally use doesn't want to work with tube amps :([/quote]

That sucks. Do you have an FX loop? You can always run through a HPF centered at 50Hz. I'm sure one of the guys at TB could build you one for cheap, or maybe you can find one online.

The DI out...that's something you'll have to live with, but it's an easy change if there's room to do it. If you're particularly handy with a soldering iron, you could pull the jack out, cut the hole a bit bigger, and solder the XLR jack into its place.

fatbandit 04-19-2010 11:27 AM

No FX loop - pretty annoying. Matamp wouldn't put one in for me. Bass players have no need for them apparently :( If I could get someone to mod me an FX loop in, that would be better than nothing.

burtonbassist_102 04-20-2010 02:13 AM

LOTR marathon today was pure epic win. 13 hours total time (bathroom and food breaks included).

FunkMetalBass 04-20-2010 09:07 AM

Tuesday is my busiest ****ing day at work, and I have to cram everything into a shortened schedule anyway so that I can leave early for school. On top of that, my boss decides to throw 19 more things on my plate right away and I have 11 voicemails from customers (I rarely have any when I get to work in the morning).

**** this ****. I'm irked.

fatbandit 04-21-2010 11:55 AM

just bought shadow of the colossus from ebay. hoping it's as good as people have told me it is. i don't have a PS3 or a 360, so I'm going back for the older gems i missed first time round.

BenJammin 04-21-2010 12:15 PM

Oh man. It totally is.

fatbandit 04-21-2010 12:34 PM

seems like the kind of game where not a lot happens until something BIG does, but there's a lot of downtime inbetween?

BenJammin 04-22-2010 07:08 AM

Well, that depends on how much you can appreciate that downtime. The game is beautiful and has incredible atmosphere, but there isn't a lot to 'do,' per se.

Spaceman Spiff 04-22-2010 09:54 AM

I'm waiting for Skate 3 to come out. Those games are sweet.


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