My tone sounds poop on its own.

Some would argue it sounds poop in the mix too ;)

Basically my suggestions for distortion like that are to buy an Ampeg SVT II and crank the sh!t out of it, try a pedal like a Mojo Hand Cream Pie, or use a blend pedal so you always have your clean tone in there too.

For the simultaneous channels when we recorded, my bass went into a true bypass stereo delay pedal (it was the only spare thing we had with two outputs, olol). One channel went straight into the desk, and the rest went to my pedals/amp which was mic'd up.

The desk signal has had more emphasis put into the lows/low mids, and the amp had the bass cut, and the mid frequency shifted higher but the treble boosted more than I'd normally have it.

Ideally would have used a second amp instead of going to the desk, but we improvised.

EDIT: Though after hearing how it sounded, I'm going to get either a Lehle passive splitter, or a Rolls SX21 crossover for my pedalboard, and run the second channel on my power amp into a second cab as a clean channel now I think.

Hmm, interesting. Good to know.

You could theoretically split the signal, run two separate chains, and combine them back together and run it all into one amp input, correct?

In theory, yes, I don't see why not. That's a hugely inefficient use of the speaker cab's power though. Especially if you're using a crossover - it would defy the point of splitting the frequency and sending it to cabs tailored for each sound. If you're not using a crossover though, and you're only doing it for a distortion tone from a pedal you like blended with clean, then you're best off getting something like a Boss LS-2 or a Barge Concepts VFB-jr. That's easier than splitting and merging the signal if you're just using one amp/cab, and gives you more control over the blend.

Some amps (not many... The Peavey Firebass springs to mind) also have a crossover built in. If you can find an actual bi-amp cab, then you can do it all through one cab, with different speakers covering different frequencies. The GK amps can do this, but I think they only work with GK cabs. Seeing as that's done from the head though, I'm not sure if you can use that in conjunction with efects pedals.

Also, if you have tweeters in your cab, turn them off. They're horrible with distortion.

[quote=fatbandit;17206911]In theory, yes, I don't see why not. That's a hugely inefficient use of the speaker cab's power though. Especially if you're using a crossover - it would defy the point of splitting the frequency and sending it to cabs tailored for each sound. If you're not using a crossover though, and you're only doing it for a distortion tone from a pedal you like blended with clean, then you're best off getting something like a Boss LS-2 or a Barge Concepts VFB-jr. That's easier than splitting and merging the signal if you're just using one amp/cab, and gives you more control over the blend.

Some amps (not many... The Peavey Firebass springs to mind) also have a crossover built in. If you can find an actual bi-amp cab, then you can do it all through one cab, with different speakers covering different frequencies. The GK amps can do this, but I think they only work with GK cabs. Seeing as that's done from the head though, I'm not sure if you can use that in conjunction with efects pedals.

Also, if you have tweeters in your cab, turn them off. They're horrible with distortion.[/quote]

No tweeters for me.

I'll have to check into the LS-2. My current rig only runs one amp, and I'm still rather fond of its tone, so I'll have to make due. I don't plan on using a dirty channel too often, but it'd be nice for a couple songs of ours that really need it.

Nice! My Cursive vinyl showed up super early. It wasn't even supposed to ship until May 5th, and it arrived today. Sweet translucent red 180g vinyl, a 15 page 12" colour booklet, a CD copy of the album, and a download card for bonus material and videos. $15. Sweet deal. :cool:

Hey, Joe, would you be interested in hearing a quick demo version of a song we recorded the other day? I'd like to know what you think. We didn't record vocals for the demo, or real drums, or real piano, but those will all be on the final version. There will also be solidified guitar parts, as I improvised the both the lead and rhythm tracks.

Anyway, yay? Nay?

wtf spiff

[QUOTE=Raayl;17207319]wtf spiff[/QUOTE]

What?

when are you gonna learn nobody cares about every inch of every detail of your bands recording process jesus christ dude learn some self control we dont need to see and hear every detail of capital h's intensive studio and live experience

showing people rough drafts is so dumb

its also equally dumb to upload terrible quality videos of your totally unknown band to youtube i mean nobody wants to even listen to tool from cell phone videos cause it sounds like crap why would they listen to a crappy unknown band i mean seriously

[QUOTE=Raayl;17207325]when are you gonna learn nobody cares about every inch of every detail of your bands recording process jesus christ dude learn some self control we dont need to see and hear every detail of capital h's intensive studio and live experience

showing people rough drafts is so dumb

its also equally dumb to upload terrible quality videos of your totally unknown band to youtube i mean nobody wants to even listen to tool from cell phone videos cause it sounds like crap why would they listen to a crappy unknown band i mean seriously[/QUOTE]

Okay.

He's got a point, man, about not showing off every bit of recording progress that you make. Stuff like that can usually be safely just kept within the band so it can be worked on.

[quote=Spaceman Spiff;17207314]Hey, Joe, would you be interested in hearing a quick demo version of a song we recorded the other day? I'd like to know what you think. We didn't record vocals for the demo, or real drums, or real piano, but those will all be on the final version. There will also be solidified guitar parts, as I improvised the both the lead and rhythm tracks.

Anyway, yay? Nay?[/quote]

Sure, man. I'd be totally interested to listen to it when I get home.

If you can email it, bassplayer420 at cheatcc dot com.

[quote=BenJammin;17207371]He's got a point, man, about not showing off every bit of recording progress that you make. Stuff like that can usually be safely just kept within the band so it can be worked on.[/quote]

This is very true. You don't want stuff to get stolen. My old guitarist jacked the main riff from a song-in-progress that I had going and asked him to help write. He said he didn't like it and didn't want to help. A year later, it's in one of his songs.

He is such a f**king douchebag.

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;17207456]This is very true. You don't want stuff to get stolen. My old guitarist jacked the main riff from a song-in-progress that I had going and asked him to help write. He said he didn't like it and didn't want to help. A year later, it's in one of his songs.

He is such a f**king douchebag.[/QUOTE]

Woah, what a ****ing asshole. Is it on his myspace or something?

[quote=Phalanx;17207460]Woah, what a ****ing spatula. Is it on his myspace or something?[/quote]

No. He sent it to me. He didn't have lyrics and he probably wont touch it for quite a while (it wasn't that good). But he flat out just told me he took it when I asked, and he thought it was no big deal.

He has a rather 80s rock approach to his writing (always in 4/4, 3/4, or 6/8), he doesn't really break key, he always ends on the root chord, somewhat typical chord progressions....there's no way his stuff even sounds like mine in terms of writing....I'm nearly polar opposite!

I should steal some riff of his. He's a broke mother ****er that couldn't afford to litigate if he tried.






/bitterness.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17207004]Nice! My Cursive vinyl showed up super early. It wasn't even supposed to ship until May 5th, and it arrived today. Sweet translucent red 180g vinyl, a 15 page 12" colour booklet, a CD copy of the album, and a download card for bonus material and videos. $15. Sweet deal. :cool:[/QUOTE]

I'm so sorry, that sounds just [I]awful.[/I]

Hey Ben, want my phone number?

[QUOTE=Efrim;17207559]I'm so sorry, that sounds just [I]awful.[/I]

Hey Ben, want my phone number?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, probably a good idea, man. Just incase I need to get a hold of you.

Send it to my hotmail account.

P.S. we better plan for 4:30 instead of 4:00, just to take into account any potential traffic issues. I'm leaving at 8am Atlantic, so I should get into Montreal around 3-3:30pm Eastern (assuming 8-8.5 hour drive).

Sounds good to me, I won't feel like rushing through my exam.
I will anyway.

Let's plan to meet right inside the main gate. there is a stone bench area beside a map of the campus. Sit there.

I will approach you with a copy of Tuesday's newspaper, and mention the New York Yankees. You will compliment the surrounding foliage.
Having made contact, I will stand up and head north, and you will follow at a discreet distance. Follow me to a safe place for the exchange.

Okay. I'm going to print off some directions and hope to god I get to the right place.

What street is the main gate off of?

I'll be the guy who looks like he's filthy with a girl far prettier than should be with him.


Was that number a landline or a cellphone?

It's right off Sherbrooke.
Avenue Mcgill-College leads right up to it.

I think your hotel is on Peel, so you would just walk 3 blocks east.
If that is where your hotel is, of course.

Cell

[QUOTE=Efrim;17207661]It's right off Sherbrooke.
Avenue Mcgill-College leads right up to it.

I think your hotel is on Peel, so you would just walk 3 blocks east.
If that is where your hotel is, of course.

Cell[/QUOTE]

Perfect. If I get lost, I'll give you a ring, then.

Do so.

I wish I had more money, so I could take you to some bars.

Eh, we'll wing it, man.

I'm heading out for a bite to eat, though. If I don't talk to you tomorrow, I'll see you on Wednesday. :O

Later.

i bought a mic today. should have a recording by tomarrow.

Well, I'm probably going to Stop using Adobe Audition new. I can't mixdown a midi file. Laaaame.

[QUOTE=Gattsu347;17207699]i bought a mic today. should have a recording by tomarrow.[/QUOTE]

what mic

Does anyone have a technique for getting a lime into a Corona without squirting juice all over themselves?

...
...
cutting the lime a bit thinner?

I have never had a problem with that.

[QUOTE=Raayl;17207957]what mic[/QUOTE]

Shure KSM27 condenser

[QUOTE=Gattsu347;17208111]Shure KSM27 condenser[/QUOTE]

do you have a preamp with phantom power

Meh. I was just asking one person who's shown interest in the music if they'd be interested in hearing a demo of a new song. I'm not bothered if he doesn't.

Again, from someone who can't help but talk sh[size=2]it,[/size] Raayl, you used to send me your works in progress all the time. Let me guess, you've grown up? Whatever. I, for one, love hearing bands I like playing new songs, even if they're unfinished or end up differently on record.

I really don't understand why you guys make such a big deal out of everything.

And if I thought Joe was that much of a piece of sh[size=2]it to steal it, I wouldn't ask him if he wanted to listen to it.[/size]

[QUOTE=DaveSavesTheDay;17208000]Does anyone have a technique for getting a lime into a Corona without squirting juice all over themselves?[/QUOTE]

buy smaller limes

[QUOTE=Raayl;17208271]do you have a preamp with phantom power[/QUOTE]

yeah. through a m-audio fasttrack ultra

im testing it out now but im having some play back trouble. my computer seems to think that my microphone is an output.

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;17208429]Meh. I was just asking one person who's shown interest in the music if they'd be interested in hearing a demo of a new song. I'm not bothered if he doesn't.

Again, from someone who can't help but talk sh[size=2]it,[/size] Raayl, you used to send me your works in progress all the time. Let me guess, you've grown up? Whatever. I, for one, love hearing bands I like playing new songs, even if they're unfinished or end up differently on record.

I really don't understand why you guys make such a big deal out of everything.

And if I thought Joe was that much of a piece of sh[size=2]it to steal it, I wouldn't ask him if he wanted to listen to it.[/size][/QUOTE]

lol no i didnt dont make s[SIZE="2"]h[/SIZE]it up spiff

and its not a big deal, you're the one crying in your mars volta over it

Hey Rey

[QUOTE=Raayl;17208553]
crying in your mars volta [/QUOTE]

lol

[QUOTE=Raayl;17208553]lol no i didnt dont make s[SIZE="2"]h[/SIZE]it up spiff

and its not a big deal, you're the one crying in your mars volta over it[/QUOTE]

You're a joke.

"Raayl is my dark side." :lol:
I wish I remembered what that whole comment said. It was ridiculous.

[quote=Spaceman Spiff;17208429]Meh. I was just asking one person who's shown interest in the music if they'd be interested in hearing a demo of a new song. I'm not bothered if he doesn't.

Again, from someone who can't help but talk sh[SIZE=2]it,[/SIZE] Raayl, you used to send me your works in progress all the time. Let me guess, you've grown up? Whatever. I, for one, love hearing bands I like playing new songs, even if they're unfinished or end up differently on record.

I really don't understand why you guys make such a big deal out of everything.

And if I thought Joe was that much of a piece of sh[SIZE=2]it to steal it, I wouldn't ask him if he wanted to listen to it.[/SIZE][/quote]

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