[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14963944]Yea, I still haven't really listened to [I]Genesis [/I]all the way through, I just got it...[/QUOTE]

It's quite good.

Not as good as Doom.

[quote=Moses;14964004]I KNEW YOU WERE GONNA S A Y T H A T.[/quote]


Oh you did, did you?

[quote=i am the robots;14963987]Except Slipknot started death metal.

Anyway, Today Is The Day is pretty nice.[/quote]

Tell me you aren't serious Matt. you can't be. I have too much respect for you.

:lol: if you took that seriously. :lol:

Anyway, Today Is The Day, anybody?

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14964075]Tell me you aren't serious Matt. you can't be. I have too much respect for you.[/QUOTE]

:smash: :smash: :smash: :smash:

[size=7]I LIKE METALCORE, I LIKE TO DISCUSS METALCORE, HEY GUYS, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT METALCORE?[/size]

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14964071]Oh you did, did you?[/QUOTE]

I told you yesterday dude, and I totally got you bad too haha.

Tojes, close this =/

[quote=Moses;14964129]I told you yesterday dude, and I totally got you bad too haha.[/quote]


You're not being very nice. Bet you didn't see my last post in the community thread coming, now did ya?

Stop asking for this to be closed. The height of spam has been hit and passed already and if this was to be closed, it would have been.

[QUOTE=Concubine;14964134]Tojes, close this =/[/QUOTE]

Yeah, this is really annoying me. You recommended me into Today Is The Day though, so thank you.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;14964045]Not as good as Doom.[/QUOTE]

Doom is nowhere near as good as Genesis.

Genesis is f[size=2]ucking[/size] boring after a week. The songs on Doom actually have character to them, rather than rehashing everything that's ever been done in death metal. The balance of melody and brutality was a great aspect, and Johnny's vocals were a lot more varied. Also, no shi[size=2]tty[/size] solos.

Overall, Doom is a lot more of an interesting, more versatile album, that has a lot more emotion behind it, end.

It was bland garbage that was made to sound just like the fads and scene. Genesis is at least not meant to be scene, even if you think it is boring. It's a better sound for the band, overall.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;14963987]Except Slipknot started death metal.

Anyway, Today Is The Day is pretty nice.[/QUOTE]

I hope that was a joke about Slipknot.

[QUOTE=Hbp;14964141]Stop asking for this to be closed. The height of spam has been hit and passed already and if this was to be closed, it would have been.[/QUOTE]

It's not because of the spam, but rather because most of the bands mentioned in this thread arent metalcore.

I agree with Concubine though.

Also, Hbp...

[size=7]WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?[/size]

Doom was an album that had the identity of what the band was trying to play to it, Andrew left and Elliot left, and now the music's changed. Genesis is just boring, it's a rehash of every other death metal album before it.

Yes but I think it was more of what JFAC is instead of Doom, which was really a scene EP when it boils down to it. It was made to capitalized on the fad, which Genesis wasn't.

Maybe you don't understand. Most of the songs on Doom were written around 2004/2005, that was the hayday of the faux-metalcore trend, when Doom was a new release, everybody was all like HELL YEAH, AS I LAY DYING! WOOO SHADOWS FALL!

Besides, Doom's not a metalcore recording, neither is Genesis. Here's on topic JFAC discussion: the demo showed promise in the songwriting department, but was pretty sloppy and the drumming was terrible.

[quote=i am the robots;14964343]Maybe you don't understand. Most of the songs on Doom were written around 2004/2005, that was the hayday of the faux-metalcore trend, when Doom was a new release, everybody was all like HELL YEAH, AS I LAY DYING! WOOO SHADOWS FALL!

[I]Besides, Doom's not a metalcore recording, neither is Genesis.[/I] [B]Here's on topic JFAC discussion: the demo showed promise in the songwriting department, but was pretty sloppy and the drumming was terrible[/B].[/quote]

Still not pertinent to metalcore discussion, you're derailing your own point. Back to metalcore.



So I have a serious question. Are any f[size=2]u[/size]cking bands metalcore anymore? People have become so wrapped up in "well, they do this or that" or "they have hints of this or that" "so that makes them hardcore or post thrash or something else" and blah blah blah.


I remember when the general group of bands, including Shadows Fall, Unearth, All That Remains, 36 Crazyfists, etc. were all accepted as metalcore. Now it seems that has all gone away, and we've started overanalyzing every band to exclude it from the genre. So now we have a complete genre redefinition, and I'm confused.

Well I was saying that the JFAC demo was metalcore, but it sucked because of the drumming.

Overall, metalcore's a combo of metal and hardcore, it's always been, just when that stuff was big, stupid kids threw the label on it and didn't understand what it meant.

Shadows Fall is Thrash, Unearth and All That Remains are Metalcore, and I havn't heard 36 Crazyfists.

What about:

Converge
Botch
Killswitch Engage
Poison The Well
Integrity
All the Generic crap

this should get renamed metalcore/deathcore

i perfer KSE over the other bands you mentioned

hate shadows fall though

They're thrash anyway, so this is the wrong thread for them. There really isn't such thing as Deathcore. It's just Death Metal/Metalcore.

The only bands that I kinda digg that might fall under this category are Parkway Drive, and Dillinger Escape Plan.

True but it can't really be Metalcore since they's no clean vocals and the like

[QUOTE=Hbp;14965411]They're thrash anyway, so this is the wrong thread for them. There really isn't such thing as Deathcore. It's just Death Metal/Metalcore.[/QUOTE]

Death Metal/Hardcore is liking saying Metal/Hardcore. Just use the term deathcore.

Speaking of crappy Deathcore I now hate TTEOTD. And they used to be one of my favourite bands. Why the hell did Anthony have to leave ?

[QUOTE=encmetalhead;14965439]True but it can't really be Metalcore since they's no clean vocals and the like[/QUOTE]

wrong

most metalcore bands don't even sing

Stop talking about faggy bands. Listen to Integrity, fools.

But alot do. Death Metal/Metalcore hybrids usually come out sounding like Melodic Death Metal with breakdowns anyway.

This thread makes me want to stop listening to metalcore.

I proclaim this thread the second worst ever.

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids;14965479]I proclaim this thread the second worst ever.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, these lame kids pretty much ruined it.

You shouldn't have been listening to metalcore in the first place Justin.

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14965482]Yeah, these lame kids pretty much ruined it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I wish those kids would stop posting.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;14964091]:lol: if you took that seriously. :lol:

Anyway, Today Is The Day, anybody?[/QUOTE]

Today Is The Day is alright.

[QUOTE=Hbp;14965472]But alot do. Death Metal/Metalcore hybrids usually come out sounding like Melodic Death Metal with breakdowns anyway.[/QUOTE]

ya but im talking about metalcore, not that stupid ****

Wow, someone please change the fact that in the review site Between The Buried And Me is Metalcore.

Why? The first two albums have a lot of hardcore influence, whilest Alaska might not.