He's very annoying.

His verse on Mr. Me Too sucks.

[quote=The Jungler;13356889]I can't wait to hear the whole CD, its gonna be off the chain.[/quote]Lupe's record is cool. I would get it if I were you.

And just as an aside, people don't really say "off the chain" anymore. It tends to come off as somewhat amusing these days.

jonm, you're off tha chain

Greatest hip hop artists - The Beastie Boys, hands down.

[QUOTE=Rileigh;13363076]Greatest hip hop artists - The Beastie Boys, hands down.[/QUOTE]No.

White = good ye?

I really like Lupe. And I still like Pharrell. But Pharrell's contracted a bad case of Kanyeitis. And his production has suffered because of it. Guy needs to recognize that being a great (or at least consistent at this point) producer is much more important than being a sub-par MC. Worse, he doesn't have the engaging crassness of Kanye, so it's like, ok, you're rhymes are pretty lame and you don't have the right personality. Back behind the boards with ye. Peanut head indeed.

As for Lupe, I'm into the new album one of my faves on the year, was into the old leak but the proper album is a general improvement. "The Instrumental" is still one of the worst hip-hop songs this year, though. He's a good MC, even writes some solid hooks, but he just sounds like he's trying too hard sometimes. I bet you when he writes his rhymes he proofreads 'em.

Kanye is worlds better than Pharrell in ever way. Lupe too, for that matter.

I never suggested Pharrell was better than Kanye, so I'm ok with that.

Lupe is an MC first, no mistake. Kanye wants to do the double threat thing. I think that kinda drags Kanye down, but I'll admit he's good at finding ways to improve on himself. 20 years from now, if both of their careers continued down the paths they've begun, Kanye will probably have a better body of work and the more memorable career. Like I alluded to before, a good producer is significantly rarer than a good MC. It would be surprising to see Kanye completely squander all that skill. At the moment though, I'd rather hear Lupe on the mic than Kanye.

[QUOTE=Robert Crumb;13364418]"The Instrumental" is still one of the worst hip-hop songs this year, though.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, what the hell is up with that song? It stands out as such a blemish on such a consistent album imo.

[QUOTE=Robert Crumb;13364558]I never suggested Pharrell was better than Kanye, so I'm ok with that.

Lupe is an MC first, no mistake. Kanye wants to do the double threat thing. I think that kinda drags Kanye down, but I'll admit he's good at finding ways to improve on himself. 20 years from now, if both of their careers continued down the paths they've begun, Kanye will probably have a better body of work and the more memorable career. Like I alluded to before, a good producer is significantly rarer than a good MC. It would be surprising to see Kanye completely squander all that skill. At the moment though, I'd rather hear Lupe on the mic than Kanye.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to fight you.

[QUOTE=Robert Crumb;13364418] but he just sounds like he's trying too hard sometimes. I bet you when he writes his rhymes he proofreads 'em.[/QUOTE]
lol@the proofread part...just as you stated and one thing i noticed as well, it seems he's trying "too hard" it doesn't come off as natural and i think some people can sense that and when you sense that akwardness in an MC that is not a good sign for the most part, you become a little skeptical because of it, so it's going to take some time to really scope him out and see how he does in the long run...i'm not saying that image is everything either, but his particular image or lack thereof, doesn't help much, he kind of looks like a little kid and some people might find it hard to take him seriously, sometimes shallow judgements like that can make or break you...when he does his little dancing or whatever you want to call it that is really suspect to me, it makes it worse as far as akwardness goes and trying too hard, it's like he lacks confidence in that respect or he's not comfortable in the surroundings he's in, he's a bit fake too me as well, but that's what i've observed so far

and i just saw the video of failure via youtube and the lyrics were horrible, "this is gangsta man" "this is top flow, you better look below" wow are you kidding me?

[quote=Eliminator;13361912]jonm, you're off tha chain[/quote]I was just trying not to be an arrogant prick about it. Maybe I toned it down too much.

While we're talking about the best in tolerable but woefully inadequate rappers from Chicago, have y'all heard the Rhymefest record? It's not as good as Lupe, but it's better than Kanye.

Rhymefest had a couple good'uns but for whatever reason, the song I gravitated towards was "Build Me Up." The critical part of my brain tells me it's pretty bad, but I wanna listen to it. Psalm One's album is another Chi-town deal I feel sketchy about. I heard it once through and was probably so surprised that it wasn't totally horrible that I over compensated. But she's not an awful MC. "Standby" might even be a pretty ok song though if it weren't for the heinous hook. "Honey-roasted peanut eating fetus"?

[QUOTE=raus;13365560]I'm going to fight you.[/QUOTE]

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Yo peep my avatar

why does yours get to be bigger than everybody elses? i thought it was just a mod thing...i want a big avatar :(

i have a big one because YDload was nice and i won a competition for best avatar. but Jons is huge and awesomer.

What is yours of sgrevs?

I think it's from Arrested Development, if I remember YD's thread correctly.

So I got [I]The Listening[/I] by Little Brother the other day. Album sounds so fresh I can almost smell it.

the listening is good, i like it better than the minstrel show, minstrel show sucks imo...if you like that though, you might want to check out...The Foreign Exhange - Connected [url]http://www.okayplayer.com/nowhearthis/nowhearthisForeignExchange1.htm[/url]...btw the minstrel show reminds me of what we were talking about earlier about the skits within albums, they practically do that throughout the album hence "minstrel show" and that was one of the main reasons why i didn't care for it, it was pretty lame and could have been done better

[quote=antiant;13377925]why does yours get to be bigger than everybody elses? i thought it was just a mod thing...i want a big avatar :([/quote][LIST=1][*]I'm a pimp.[*]I have 5,500 posts, and most of them were worthwhile.[*]I've been here for over 3 years.[*]Alex (Zappa) is my e-homeboy (iHomie?)[*]OutKast.[/LIST]

figures...you'd have to kiss azz or "know" the people on here, doesn't suprise me, oh well, i suppose seniority is the thing here, but you're a legit poster, so on that note, i shall continue on

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids;13379017]I think it's from Arrested Development, if I remember YD's thread correctly.[/QUOTE]

correct gg

ok so...how's that new method man? anyone check it out yet? i'm currently getting it atm

I got Jedi Mind Tricks - [I]Violent By Design[/I] today. It's pretty good :)

[QUOTE=JonM;13379150][LIST=1][*]I'm a pimp.[*]I have 5,500 posts, and most of them were worthwhile.[*]I've been here for over 3 years.[*]Alex (Zappa) is my e-homeboy (iHomie?)[*]OutKast.[/LIST][/QUOTE]

I see...

[quote=JonM]Hey Alex... I really dig your music... I think you're really talented... And plus, I give you lots of good advice and stuff...

So yeah check out this coooool pic. I thought you might think it would be a cool avatar for me or sumthin... you know, like a big one.

[url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Outkast-stankonia-lady.jpg[/url]

Cool huh? I think it would make a great avatar for me.

I'll give you things. Like music and stuff.

Or I'll have your worst enemy killed. I know people... :naughty:[/quote]

I see what you did there.

People Under the Stairs and Giant Panda are playing my Students Union tonight, I can;t decide whether to go :confused:

I'm not really in the mood to see a show (heavy night last night), but I have a feeling that it would be really good.

[quote=Eliminator;13385253]I see what you did there.[/quote]Don't hate the player. Hate the game.

[QUOTE=antiant;13379122]the listening is good, i like it better than the minstrel show, minstrel show sucks imo...if you like that though, you might want to check out...The Foreign Exhange - Connected [url]http://www.okayplayer.com/nowhearthis/nowhearthisForeignExchange1.htm[/url]...btw the minstrel show reminds me of what we were talking about earlier about the skits within albums, they practically do that throughout the album hence "minstrel show" and that was one of the main reasons why i didn't care for it, it was pretty lame and could have been done better[/QUOTE]
Word, the Foreign Exchange is pretty nice. Connected is actually my favourite album coming from the Little Brother camp, although it's close between The Listening and Connected. Did you check out Nicolay's newest solo-album? If yes, what did you think of it? I'm kinda interested, dude can make some nice beats if he doesn't go too much over the top with the synths.

[QUOTE=LF96;13385998]Word, the Foreign Exchange is pretty nice. Connected is actually my favourite album coming from the Little Brother camp, although it's close between The Listening and Connected. Did you check out Nicolay's newest solo-album? If yes, what did you think of it? I'm kinda interested, dude can make some nice beats if he doesn't go too much over the top with the synths.[/QUOTE]
no i haven't, didn't know he had a solo out atm, i'll have to check it out and see if i can get it today, thanks for the heads up and yeah he's not bad at all, i was staying on top of it for a bit, then i stopped checking

Nicolay's album is kinda meh for me. But I liked Minstrel Show, so that's what it is, I guess. He does go pretty easy on the synths, though, wholly mid-90's feel to it all. Very straight-forward stuff, but the couple of neo-soul tracks are a bit much, especially the one featuring Yahzarah. Definitely worth checking into if you already like his stuff.

[QUOTE=JonM;13379150][LIST=1][*]I'm a pimp.[*]I have 5,500 posts, and most of them were worthwhile.[*]I've been here for over 3 years.[*]Alex (Zappa) is my e-homeboy (iHomie?)[*]OutKast.[/LIST][/QUOTE]
I have less than 100 posts, have been a member for less than a week, and I'm friends with no mods. I am a boss.

Yeah, how did you get an avatar that big?

I'm a sorcerer.

if only your avatar wasn't lame

ok so...i'm getting/have/heard of the following upcoming albums so far:

1. M.O.P. - Ghetto Warfare
2. DMX - Year Of The Dog
3. Bone Thugs N Harmoney - Thug Stories
4. Planet Asia - The Medicine
5. Quantic - An Announcement To Answer (this has Ohmega Watts on some tracks)
6. Yak Ballz - Scifentology [url]http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=10326266[/url]
7. Method Man - 421 The Day After
8. Muszimal (apparently of Outlawz fame)
9. Hearin' Aid - Boom Lucy

anyone have these yet and or have any opinions on the albums so far? i'm listening to the new bone thugs atm, can't really put my finger on it yet as to yay or nay, the intro came out good then it went downhill after that (ie: 1st track was flat out rapping then 2nd track when into some r&b/rap shyt), i'll have to keep listening and see...sometimes i wish they would continue like they use to, but everytime i hear a new album from one of them solo or group it's a disappointment, i guess i'm optimistic hoping it will change...we shall see as i continue to listen

OMFG...this bnth is starting to annoy me, they need a "resurrection" in their whole career...wtf@rnb/rap mix and why the hell are they trying to sing?!...man what happened to their old production :(

[QUOTE=Eliminator;13389154]if only your avatar wasn't lame[/QUOTE]
Yeah one of the top 3 rap groups of all time is lame.

Is that Planet Asia album good? I saw him with Wu-Tang and hella other heads, and he was tight.

ahhhhhh! *bangs head on keyboard* fdjkafjeqw;fjwqfeq...i pull the plug on this one@btnh i just can't get into it at all, i've got to throw this up on the back burner for later listening...if that...this just sucks, 6 songs in and they were singing in most of them or trying to...NAY!

edit: i'm going to try planet asia now, i hope he's not bad after listening to btnh good god, how horrible that was...he's a hometown fav tho...planet asia's been out for a min