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Steerpike 02-24-2005 02:57 PM

[QUOTE=LegionsofMarduk]According to Anton LeVay, King Diamond was one of the only true Satanic metal acts around. Of course LeVay was a fool so considering the source...[/QUOTE]

LaVey also did not worship the Christian devil. He merely upheld Lucifer the Morningstar as an ideal of the struggle of the individual. Half the stuff he said was just to shock people. If nothing else, he was very good at pushing people's buttons.

Bartender 02-24-2005 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=LegionsofMarduk]
Members of Akercocke are practicing Satanists I believe. I don't know what type of Satanism though. That's kind of a hard questions to answer because there are a few different schools of thought when it comes to Satanism.[/QUOTE]

Their brand seems to be very much just the exemplification of the self, gratification of the desires and so on. I think I've seen them make mention of worshipping both women and Satan, though.

Blood Venom 02-25-2005 11:49 AM

?
 
Worshiping to women ?? How is that relevant to Satanism ?

craggyisland 02-25-2005 02:19 PM

Well, in Anton LaVey's brand of Satanism at least, naked women can be used as altars, since Satanism is regarded as a religion of the flesh, and not of the spirit.

Bartender 02-25-2005 06:14 PM

Ah, no, not that kind of worshipping. Just generally holding them to be worthy of admiration, respect, etc.

Deathcrush 02-25-2005 06:27 PM

That book was such a waste of my girlfriend's money.

Death to LaVey's Satanism.

Drone Master 02-28-2005 11:04 AM

I'm Baaack !!!
 
..Amen to that :thumb:




:wave:

Bartender 02-28-2005 12:06 PM

Go away, you've got nine days left to serve.

Johnny Dough 02-28-2005 02:11 PM

This Is Drone Master !!!
 
And To Jacka$$ Administrator Of This Thread And/or Site I'd Like To Say - Lick My Motherf*cking Balls !!! Same Goes For Steerpike, Lorddargon, Bartender And Everyone Else Who Has Problem With My Comments. You Can Ban Me Now... You Bunch Of Miserable Fagg0ts !!

Johnny Dough 02-28-2005 02:12 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Go away, you've got nine days left to serve.[/QUOTE]


No, but you can serve me for eternity tossing my salad :thumb:

Lav 02-28-2005 02:23 PM

that is a very good summary of metal. But i disagree that Nu-metal is the latest type. Nu-metal IMHO is actually dead, maybe i have become disconected from the genre but I believe the latest is either Hardcore Metal or Metalcore. They take alot of influences from modern hardcore Punk in the drums but the guitar riffs are fast and thrashy but contain breakdowns and middle 8's like slayer used to!! Examples of bands include Shadows fall (the saviours of metal)... All that Remains (Shadows fall but better!!)... Caliban and Killswitch Engage. The Guitars are useually downtuned but not always! The music is very Technical and if you like double bass drums and guitar riffage this is for you.

Steerpike 02-28-2005 02:25 PM

[QUOTE=Johnny Dough]And To Jacka$$ Administrator Of This Thread And/or Site I'd Like To Say - Lick My Motherf*cking Balls !!! Same Goes For Steerpike, Lorddargon, Bartender And Everyone Else Who Has Problem With My Comments. You Can Ban Me Now... You Bunch Of Miserable Fagg0ts !![/QUOTE]

I'd flame you... but you're so bad at trolling that it's not even worth the effort. You pretty much pwned yourself the instant you opened your mouth.

Steerpike 02-28-2005 02:26 PM

[QUOTE=Lav]Shadows fall (the saviours of metal)[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't go that far. You seen the European metal scene lately?

ninjamonkey 02-28-2005 02:28 PM

lol. the saviors.

it never died.

Blood Venom 02-28-2005 02:28 PM

[QUOTE=Lav]that is a very good summary of metal. But i disagree that Nu-metal is the latest type. Nu-metal IMHO is actually dead, maybe i have become disconected from the genre but I believe the latest is either Hardcore Metal or Metalcore. They take alot of influences from modern hardcore Punk in the drums but the guitar riffs are fast and thrashy but contain breakdowns and middle 8's like slayer used to!! Examples of bands include Shadows fall (the saviours of metal)... All that Remains (Shadows fall but better!!)... Caliban and Killswitch Engage. The Guitars are useually downtuned but not always! The music is very Technical and if you like double bass drums and guitar riffage this is for you.[/QUOTE]

Let's not forget Hatebreed. I think of them as of one of the most important metalcore bands ever

Bartender 02-28-2005 02:34 PM

[QUOTE=Johnny Dough]And To Jacka$$ Administrator Of This Thread And/or Site I'd Like To Say - Lick My Motherf*cking Balls !!! Same Goes For Steerpike, Lorddargon, Bartender And Everyone Else Who Has Problem With My Comments. You Can Ban Me Now... You Bunch Of Miserable Fagg0ts !![/QUOTE]

I gave you a very clear warning to stop spamming and sniping in the thread, and you didn't. Just wait out the length of the ban.

Invicta_Veritas 02-28-2005 02:49 PM

[QUOTE=Blood Venom]Let's not forget Hatebreed. I think of them as of one of the most important metalcore bands ever[/QUOTE]

Whilst Jasta is a Genius with business and working with other bands, I see hatebreeds influence in metalcore(if that's what you really think they are) as pretty nominal.

Decoy D 02-28-2005 02:52 PM

Once again... This is the unpredictable - Drone Master
 
[QUOTE=Steerpike]I'd flame you... but you're so bad at trolling that it's not even worth the effort. You pretty much pwned yourself the instant you opened your mouth.[/QUOTE]


Aaaarh !! The 'wiseazz fairy' has visited us again.. HA! The only reason why you 'decided' not to flame me is cause you all out of fire ! Dude face it, I have totally smoked you. Your pityfull "retaliations" has caused you not only embarassment, but totally exposed how pathetic you are as a writer, reader, commentator, reseacher, humorist, observer ...and I could go on and on. For all I know, I should find your mother and torture her to death for giving birth to a maggot like you. I'd sure be doing the world a huge favor. Now 'flame' that !!

Blood Venom 02-28-2005 03:06 PM

[QUOTE=atreyu_breakingbenjamin]Whilst Jasta is a Genius with business and working with other bands, I see hatebreeds influence in metalcore(if that's what you really think they are) as pretty nominal.[/QUOTE]

To add to that, Hatebreed definitely stands out as a live band. (as anything influenced by Slayer would, in my opinion). Also Killswitch Engage and Lamb of God have set trends in this genre

Steerpike 02-28-2005 03:08 PM

Does this guy ever quit? I mean, three accounts banned in less than two hours.

And his fixation on me in particular is getting kind of creepy.

Bartender, would you hold it against me if I requested to have him perma-banned if he tries **** like this again? This is seriously unhealthy behavior.

Invicta_Veritas 02-28-2005 03:14 PM

[QUOTE=Blood Venom]To add to that, Hatebreed definitely stands out as a live band. (as anything influenced by Slayer would, in my opinion). Also Killswitch Engage and Lamb of God have set trends in this genre[/QUOTE]

My statement was not in your favor, my friend. Look up the word nominal in the dictionary.

Blood Venom 02-28-2005 03:19 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Does this guy ever quit? I mean, three accounts banned in less than two hours.

And his fixation on me in particular is getting kind of creepy.

Bartender, would you hold it against me if I requested to have him perma-banned if he tries **** like this again? This is seriously unhealthy behavior.[/QUOTE]

Didn't you put him on your ignore list ?

Blood Venom 02-28-2005 03:21 PM

[QUOTE=atreyu_breakingbenjamin]My statement was not in your favor, my friend. Look up the word nominal in the dictionary.[/QUOTE]

I never thought it was. I was speaking to everyone else while responding to your comment. Thank you very much

RiceMonster 02-28-2005 03:26 PM

[QUOTE=Blood Venom]Didn't you put him on your ignore list ?[/QUOTE]
He only put Drone Master's main acount on his ignore list most likely.

Steerpike 02-28-2005 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]He only put Drone Master's main acount on his ignore list most likely.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. This guy's making new accounts every ten minutes. I figure out it's him when he posts here to make some dip**** remark about me or whoever else told him he's an idiot.

I'd like nothing more than to put this **** behind me, but this is starting to go a little too far.

Blood Venom 03-01-2005 08:03 AM

[QUOTE=Steerpike].... but this is starting to go a little too far.[/QUOTE]


Are you referring to his comment about torturing your mother ?

Steerpike 03-01-2005 08:41 AM

[QUOTE=Blood Venom]Are you referring to his comment about torturing your mother ?[/QUOTE]

No, it's just his obsessive behavior. I've heard people trash talking far worse than that in public. Drone's wit is mediocre at best, but the fact that he so doggedly refuses to shut his mouth and leave people alone is starting to get annoying.

Dekoy DM 03-01-2005 09:39 AM

This Is Drone Master !!!
 
[QUOTE=Steerpike]Does this guy ever quit? [/QUOTE]

Geee... hmmm, let's see here. Let me explain it to you as if you was 2 month old (your mentality level IS literally, though): [B]For me to quit - you must quit ![/B] Is that clear enough ? If not, I'm sorry - I dont speak any other languages

[QUOTE=Steerpike]I mean, three accounts banned in less than two hours.[/QUOTE]

Well this proves something on my behalf doesnt it ? Knowing that you are too retarded to figure out what it is.. its that you [B]can't get rid of me as easy as you might have thought[/B] ...Too bad you started something that you can't finish. Learn your lesson yet ??

[QUOTE=Steerpike]And his fixation on me in particular is getting kind of creepy.[/QUOTE]

Don't even pull that "homo" card on me, loser..Clearly from the reading your posts the only one who's sexual orientation should be questioned is [B]yours[/B]

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Bartender, would you hold it against me if I requested to have him perma-banned if he tries **** like this again? [/QUOTE]

Nice try ,"quasimodo" ! I got more 'tricks in the bag' than you can imagine. There is a way around [I]anything[/I] when it comes to internet. Too bad you dont know that, since you spend too much time being a jacka$$ that you are

[QUOTE=Steerpike]This is seriously unhealthy behavior.[/QUOTE]

Oh you think ?!?! Hah.. Once again I'll repeat myself - [B]you've got noone to blame for this but yourself[/B]

Dekoy DM 03-01-2005 09:40 AM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]No, it's just his obsessive behavior.[/QUOTE]

NOT!! ..Wrong answer. See, I actually [I]do[/I] have other hobbies


[QUOTE=Steerpike]I've heard people trash talking far worse than that in public.[/QUOTE]

Wrong again ! If me and you actually did meet in public, there wouldn't be [B]any[/B] talking. I would just knock all your teeth out and you'd think about 10 times before you opened your suck again


[QUOTE=Steerpike]Drone's wit is mediocre at best [/QUOTE]

Well, you surely have failed to prove that as well. Let be real, every blast I threw at you compared to your lousy 'cracks' at me, as you call it.. fells like I took a dump on your face !

[QUOTE=Steerpike]but the fact that he so doggedly refuses to shut his mouth and leave people alone is starting to get annoying.[/QUOTE]

I'll even use your own quote to answer this one ([I]mocking in a gay male voice[/I])"..I wish I could tell you that I care, but I don't " You should have been careful what you wished for. So much for 'free entertainment'

[B]This has been a presentation courtesy of Drone Master. Have a nice day, a$$hole !! [/B] :wave:

Invicta_Veritas 03-01-2005 09:58 AM

Is this guy actually serious?

Invicta_Veritas 03-01-2005 10:08 AM

Only someone with a serious mental disability would find that amusing.

Blood Venom 03-01-2005 10:12 AM

Its retarded, but retarded - funny. Kinda like a bad comedy or something

Invicta_Veritas 03-01-2005 10:22 AM

Yea, but it gets annoying.

Dekoy DM 03-01-2005 10:55 AM

[QUOTE=atreyu_breakingbenjamin]Only someone with a serious mental disability would find that amusing.[/QUOTE]


Dont even start with me....Mr. "look up the word in the dictionary". If you feel annoyed in here there are millions of other forums to bless with your totally unimportant presence. Bon Voyage!

Steerpike 03-01-2005 12:01 PM

[QUOTE=Dekoy DM](rambling bull****)[/QUOTE]

Your done. It's over. You fail.

You got banned, now quit acting like a dip**** and take your lumps. Bartender told the both of us to quit the flame war. And around here, what the mods say goes. It's over. Deal with it.

conciousuniverse 03-01-2005 12:13 PM

deflated egos describes all this nonsense...

anyways, what about the topic of this forum???

Steerpike 03-01-2005 12:17 PM

[QUOTE=conciousuniverse]anyways, what about the topic of this forum???[/QUOTE]

Anything in particular you want to talk about genre-related?

conciousuniverse 03-01-2005 12:19 PM

Okay :)

What is nu-metal?

Steerpike 03-01-2005 12:23 PM

It's a relatively commerical movement, not really much of a genre. Basically, it doesn't require a very high degree of musicianship and the songwriting is generally angsty or angry.

There are exceptions, yeah. But finding the really good acts in the glut of MTV crap is a lot of work.

conciousuniverse 03-01-2005 12:32 PM

Thanks for the interpretation. Sounds like I wouldnt be interested. So its a good thing I canceled my cable. I dont miss the existence of MTv what so ever.

What about progressive? I am a big fan of Tool and I hear people clasify them as progressive. But does it have to do with style, sound or ideas of the music?


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