Lately I've been listening to AMLOR a bunch, it really isn't that bad of an album.

NP: Sorrow

[QUOTE=MidnightRider]Lately I've been listening to AMLOR a bunch, it really isn't that bad of an album.

NP: Sorrow[/QUOTE]
I need to give it a chance now...It has never been called "a bad album" it is just a let down for pink floyd albums if you get what I am saying.

I don't consider it a Pink Floyd album any more than I consider The Final Cut a Pink Floyd album. They're both solo albums with Pink Floyd playing the music.

[QUOTE=MidnightRider]I know what you mean, it really is amazing. It's probably the most hauntingly beautiful song I've ever heard.

And why does everyone seem to hate Vera? I love it.[/QUOTE]
I find Vera is one of the more emotional songs on the album, and it fits perfectly where it's placed among the other tracks. I've never heard anyone really comment on it, due to it's short length. Most people are into long songs or songs with a fast upbeat or percussive effect. Vera lacks both, due to no drums, but I find the power of Water's voice and the instrumental backdrop makes a great addition to the album. I guess you have to really appreciate music to like the song/enjoy any of Pink Floyd's underrated songs.

I don't like Vera cause I think it's boring. It doesn't seem to fit in with the music of Floyd I'm used to.

I love Vera, its the background music that does it for me. Some of Waters best singing as well

Well, I guess I was wrong about nobody liking Vera. :)

Is the Pulse DVD out yet? I kind of gave up on it when it didn't come out at Christmas.

[QUOTE=MidnightRider]Well, I guess I was wrong about nobody liking Vera. :)

Is the Pulse DVD out yet? I kind of gave up on it when it didn't come out at Christmas.[/QUOTE]


Yea dude we love Vera

Vera1 Vera! what has become of you?

I completely forgot about the pulse DVD

I rememver Vera being all right. It's obviously not too great because I can't really recall much about it at all.

[QUOTE=TheDMV]It's obviously not too great because I can't really recall much about it at all.[/QUOTE]

Well, that's probably attributed to it being so short.

NP: A Pillow of Winds

[QUOTE=MidnightRider]Well, that's probably attributed to it being so short.

NP: A Pillow of Winds[/QUOTE]

No, I wouldn't say so. I standout track is a standout track, regardless of the length.

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva] Plus, whatever happened to owning the artwork and lyrics, for the sake of owning them?[/QUOTE]

It's not really a philosophy i subscribe to. I like music for music, not for being able to look at pretty pictures.

I buy CDs when it's convinient. I don't use any p2p, although i sometimes download from regnyouth.com.

[QUOTE=TheDMV]No, I wouldn't say so. I standout track is a standout track, regardless of the length.[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying that a song's quality has anything to do with it's length, but it is sort of easy to overlook a 1:35 track on an album that's an hour and 21 minutes long.

[QUOTE=MidnightRider]I'm not saying that a song's quality has anything to do with it's length, but it is sort of easy to overlook a 1:35 track on an album that's an hour and 21 minutes long.[/QUOTE]


I see what you are saying

I agree atomic rain

[QUOTE=Britton]Yea my favorite form the album.

I also love Vera! nobody else i know likes it...but hey[/QUOTE]

Vera is cool. My favorite from the Wall is In The Flesh? I think its such a great character introduction "If you wanna know whats behind these cold eyes, You'll just have to plow your way through this disguise."

Though my favorite Pink Floyd song is Comfertably Numb off of DSOT tied with SOYCD off of one of my bootlegs. I think Comfertably Numb is my favorite because it hits me so hard as someone who does drugs. All and all we are all searching to become Comferatably Numb in one way or another but that first solo desrcribes perfectly how i feel Comfertably Numb when I'm high.

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First half of Disc 2 > all. Period. Especially if you're emo or something.

Even with all its awesomeness, The Wall isn't my favorite Floyd album, mostly because it's so dark and depressing. I like happy/funny stuff over all, that's the kind of guy I am. I'd much rathe sit a t home witha bowl of popcorn and a Python flick than just about anyhing else on a Saturday night. I know most Floyd isn't funny per se, but it's more upbeat and has less of a downer feeling than The Wall.

Speaking of which, we had an impromptu discussion of Floyd today in World Cultures. Our teacher is a big Floyd fan, and the girl next to told her that she finally saw the movie Wall, and we kind of had a discussion. I did learn one thing, apparently there is actually a movie More, and it has to do with Pink Floyd, they didn't just do the soundtrack. I always thought it was just the soundtrack, I need to see if I can find it.

[QUOTE=BigTrav]First half of Disc 2 > all. Period.[/QUOTE]

Disc 2 in it's entirety owns, though I'll agree that the first half is better. Some of Floyd's darkest work is on there IMO. I just realized the other day how badass the solo in Hey You is.

[QUOTE=MidnightRider]Disc 2 in it's entirety owns, though I'll agree that the first half is better. Some of Floyd's darkest work is on there IMO. I just realized the other day how badass the solo in Hey You is.[/QUOTE]
And my favorite lyric of all time:

But it was only a fantasy
The wall was too high, as you can see
No matter how he tried, he could not break free
And the worms ate into his brain

:eek:

In all truthfulness, I think you're right about all of Disc 2 though. Run Like Hell \m/

Strange, that's my favorite lyric as well. That part always blows me away.

Yeah those lyrics are great, though the whole song is incredible.

[I]Hey You, would you help me to carry the stone...[/I]

Actually, I can't believe I've never brought up my theory before in this thread, but this is the perfect time, so here we go.

The first time I ever heard Hey You, before I knew about the "real" theme behind the album, I thought the song was about Jesus Christ. Point:

[i]Hey you, out there in the cold,
Getting lonely, getting old, can you feel me[/i]

He is asking if those unsaved souls in need can feel his presence. A little iffy, but still.

[i]Hey you, standing in the aisles
With itchy feet and fading smiles, can you feel me?[/i]

A reference to church, and the gradual disillusionment and boredom of church-goers as the focus almost seems to leave Jesus and his proverbs and teachings and get into completely different subjects that have nothing to do with even the Bible sometimes, and he's asking them to remember the true meaning of their faith and not to abandon him because of apathy.

[i]Hey you, don't help them to bury the light,
Don't give in without a fight.[/i]

He's asking his followers not to allow a society disillusioned with religion, especially Christianity, to "destroy" the church.

[i]Hey you, out there on your own,
sitting naked by the phone, would you touch me?[/i]

It seems like a reference to a suicidal person, on the verge of sanity and about to call a suicide hotline, and he's asking them to touch him, as it is mentioned many tims in the Bible that those who touch Christ are healed.

[i]Hey you, with your ear against the wall
Waiting for someone to call out, would you touch me?[/i]

The same idea, a lonely or emotional person just looking for something to grasp onto, and he is asking them to come to him.

[i]Hey you, would you help me to carry the stone?[/i]

This can be interpreted three ways, "the stone" meaning the burden of the world's sins that Jesus carried, "the stone" as a metaphor for the cross, which is the same idea as the first way, and the third way, "the stone" literally meaning the stone closing his tomb that was moved after three days and his body was gone. He could be asking a follower and a friend to help him move the stone so that he might rise to Heaven and cleanse the sins of the world.

[i]Open your heart, I'm coming home[/i]

One of the most powerful and chilling lines in the whole song. In this context, he is literally asking someone to open their heart and let him come in, so that they can be saved.

[i]But it was only a fantasy,
The wall was too high as you can see,
No matter how he tried he could not break free,
And the worms ate into his brain.[/i]

In all honesty, this is the only section of the song that doesn't really apply to this interpretation. You could argue that maybe this was describing a soul too far gone for them to even accept Jesus as his Savior, but it seems out of context with the rest of the song.

[i]Hey you, out there on the road,
Doing what you're told, can you help me?[/i]

This line didn't strike me as much until recently, and I had an epiphany and remembered the Good Samaritan story. For those who don't know, Samaritans were a people in the Bible, and were renowned for their coldness and lack of sympathy. In the story, a man is robbed and beaten by thiefs and left by the side of the road to die, until a "good Samaritan" found him and helped him.

[i]Hey you, out there beyond the wall,
Breaking bottles in the hall, can you help me?[/i]

He is calling out to the apathetic, semi-outcast from society, just on the fringes and doing what he wants, telling him that he as welcome and needed as anyone.

[i]Hey you, don't tell me there's no hope at all!
Together we stand, divided we fall.[/i]

Another powerful line. After deliberation, I think of the Disciples of Christ after his death, telling each other to keep hope up and to continue teaching the gospel of Christ, even against persecution.


Remember, this is just an idea that's been cooking in my head for a while. It's probably not what Waters intended when he wrote it, so don't think anything of it if you don't want to.

Thats pretty cool man, I never thought about it that way. Like you said, I really doubt Rogers meant for it to come off that way, but still. It's amazing how songs intended to mean one thing can be interpreted completely different by different people.

San Tropez is a really cool song, I've always sort of overlooked it before.

Yes! Someone started analysing lyrics again!

Shall we start dibsing songs from the Wall then? If so, I've got The Trial and Goodbye Blue Sky. :D

[QUOTE=BigTrav415]
Speaking of which, we had an impromptu discussion of Floyd today in World Cultures. Our teacher is a big Floyd fan, and the girl next to told her that she finally saw the movie Wall, and we kind of had a discussion. I did learn one thing, apparently there is actually a movie More, and it has to do with Pink Floyd, they didn't just do the soundtrack. I always thought it was just the soundtrack, I need to see if I can find it.[/QUOTE]

That's probably why the tape of More is called More: The Soundtrack to the Motion Picture.

Apparently it is very arthouse.

And for any who are interested, La Vallee is the movie for which OBC was the soundtrack.

I've been trying to find both of those movies, but it's been to no avail.

I'd like to see [I]La Valee[/I].

Amusingly, the film was subtitled "Obscured by Clouds", onmce it became clear that pink floyd would not use the name "La Valee" for the album.

I don't really feel like analysing another Wall song right now. I think I'll do Sheep since no one has done it in all that time. I'll start it now, maybe post it later today.

Ugh. I left my iPod at home for the first time in a long time, and I had such a Floyd craving all day... music is like crack.

I've been analysing some Stones and Beatles songs for my brother, but no Floyd. Although we almost did Echoes.

(This was all for a school project)

[QUOTE=magicbus]Although we almost did Echoes.[/QUOTE]

Good idea! I'll get on that sometime in the next couple of days. It has some of my favorite Floyd lyrics.

If its not already taken could I do Comfertably Numb?