[QUOTE=HighandDriving;16796628]Converge are great but they're no Botch and I don't understand why they get more cred here then Botch. Oh wait, I do.



They have one of the guitarist/vocalist from Facing New York join to replace that other guy.[/QUOTE]

Oh good! I prefer them with two vocalists.

[QUOTE=Dimmu Burger;16796665]Oh good! I prefer them with two vocalists.[/QUOTE]

He's dec too and imo much better then Fred, I didn't like Fred's voice one bit.

Yeah I didn't like Fred as much as John or Adam.

ok someone needs to seriously tell me why March by Knut is so good and yet the same ****ing chords over and over the entire song, which is 20 mins long basically

why

[QUOTE=bunit9488;16796615]see i like them
(which is more than i can say about them when i first joined)

[b]but they're not anything special, tbh[/b]
IMO of course, i know a lot of people have a big soft spot for them
and i love listening to them from time to time[/QUOTE]
heathen
[QUOTE=HighandDriving;16796628]Converge are great but they're no Botch and I don't understand why they get more cred here then Botch. Oh wait, I do.[/QUOTE]
Botch aren't nearly as good thats why

i like both Botch and Converge but Converge are my fav of the two by a large margin

i honestly like botch more than converge these days. botch is that ****ing intense.
[QUOTE=McP3000;16798312]ok someone needs to seriously tell me why March by Knut is so good and yet the same ****ing chords over and over the entire song, which is 20 mins long basically

why[/QUOTE]

because knut is jawesome

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iJE1muDyQM[/url]

i miss tj :(

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16798769]i honestly like botch more than converge these days. botch is that ****ing intense.


because knut is jawesome[/QUOTE]
i need to give We Are The Romans another chance

and knut are awesome

listen to fookin american nervoso, album is so different from most metalcore

anthology of dead ends or w/e is botch's best

no.

yes

naaahh

fine

that went no where

its pointless arguing with mappy, especially when its about metalcore.

I prefer Converge over Botch, but both are good.

I love both as well but Botch is hands down better then Converge.

Also Dave runs circles around Kurt.

Dave holds it down like no other sole metalcore guitarist, while Converge had a second guitarist up until after (maybe before) Jane Doe.

Converge are better (imo...)

You're opinion is wrong.

pretty sure that's impossible.

Who told you that?

you are opinion is wrong

Don't bullshit me.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;16799971]Who told you that?[/QUOTE]

Jebus.

[QUOTE=DBlitz;16799210]its pointless arguing with mappy, especially when its about metalcore.[/QUOTE]

haha i was totally ****ing around. imo american nervoso is better, but anthology is really ****ing good too. <3

[QUOTE=masscows;16799989]you are opinion is wrong[/QUOTE]

lol i caught that!

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16800102]haha i was totally ****ing around. imo american nervoso is better, but anthology is really ****ing good too. <3[/QUOTE]

Ya neither of their albums blow the other out of the water.

John Woo's my fav from AN and Japam is my favourite from Anthology.

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16800102]haha i was totally ****ing around. imo american nervoso is better, but anthology is really ****ing good too. <3[/QUOTE]
<3

and on the topic of Converge vs Botch, both are awesome, but I like Converge more

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;16800294]Ya neither of their albums blow the other out of the water.

John Woo's my fav from AN and Japam is my favourite from Anthology.[/QUOTE]

nervoso is so much better imo

dalis praying mantis <3

Nervoso is more raw and Anthology has that slick production, both which are good.

But saying it's so much better is a little far fetched.

I'm starting to think I'm the only person on this site that would take Botch over Converge.

huttons great heat engine live > anything ever

[QUOTE]I'm starting to think I'm the only person on this site that would take Botch over Converge.[/QUOTE]
probably

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;16802987]I'm starting to think I'm the only person on this site that would take Botch over Converge.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I think so.

Poor me.

Rockin the new Unearth again. So effin good!

rockin mirrors by misery signals for the first time in a long while
great album

that's actually my favorite Mis Sigs album. idk why, i think it's just more melodic and the production is great. Of Malice... is great too but doesn't have that production quality and isn't as melodic and Controller is just heavy and over-produced but still awesome.

i still haven't heard of malice...
need to do that, i just have this album and controller, i love controller as well