If you're going to be technical about it, I actually only have one. :p Phase III, I believe. Isn't that actually a studio outtake/jam and not a real tune?

[QUOTE=Kage]Headphones are your friend.[/QUOTE]

I wish I had a good pair of headphones

[QUOTE=Kage]If you're going to be technical about it, I actually only have one. :p Phase III, I believe. Isn't that actually a studio outtake/jam and not a real tune?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's sort of a b-side kind of thing, along with phase IV.. And if you like Phase III, you'love I and II...
want me to upload?

Are there no vocals on all of PT's earlier releases?

There's vocals on The first couple of releases.. I actually think Voyage 34 is the only one without vocals.. .. And.. Metanoia

I wondere what is being discussed :(

Porcupine Tree. Very cool prog band that really noone has heard of on this hemisphere. They're big in Europe though, but in the US, they somehow managed to sneak under the radar of mainstream music despite they're easy-to-listen-to soundscape. (At least on their later releases)

Jake did you hear the Lateralus vox yet?

Porcupine Tree is awesome.

Whats are some of their best songs jake?

I got my first album from them a few days ago, In Absentia. They're really good, and the song .3 kicks ***.

[QUOTE=Mr Herb]Whats are some of their best songs jake?[/QUOTE]

(even though I'm not jake hehe)

Last Chance To Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled
Trains
Shesmovedon
Voyage 34: Phase I
Wedding Nails
Russia on ice

Those should be a good introduction

[QUOTE=Knifeboy](even though I'm not jake hehe)

Last Chance To Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled
Trains
Shesmovedon
Voyage 34: Phase I
Wedding Nails
Russia on ice

Those should be a good introduction[/QUOTE]
I wanted jake! jk.

nice, thx dude.

[QUOTE=Purple Floyd]I got my first album from them a few days ago, In Absentia. They're really good, and the song .3 kicks ***.[/QUOTE]
.3 is incredibly beautiful and was the song that convinced me to buy In Absentia. Along with Blackest Eyes, too. The whole album is just amazing, every second of every song is just perfect.

[QUOTE=Mr Herb]Whats are some of their best songs jake?[/QUOTE]
I think you're actually better off just buying In Absentia. I think it's the perfect introduction to PT's very extensive and very diverse body of work.

I personally bought Deadwing first, which is also great, but for that album it's the individual tracks that really stand out, not the album as a whole. Deadwing, Arriving Somewhere (But Not Here), Halo, and The Start of Something Beautiful are the best on that album.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting].3 is incredibly beautiful and was the song that convinced me to buy In Absentia. Along with Blackest Eyes, too. The whole album is just amazing, every second of every song is just perfect.[/QUOTE]
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They really need to reissue all their CDs so we can get the earlier stuff for sane prices at regular music stores. Has anyone heard Stupid Dream, Lightbulb Sun, the Sky Moves Sideways? Those albums are incredible.

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They really need to reissue all their CDs so we can get the earlier stuff for sane prices at regular music stores. Has anyone heard Stupid Dream, Lightbulb Sun, the Sky Moves Sideways? Those albums are incredible.[/QUOTE]
I have a few songs from each of those albums on my computer, but In Absentia and Deadwing are the only full albums I own. Every member of PT is incredibly talented, and Gavin Harrison, the drummer, is godly.

The drummers dynamics are absolutely mindblowing.. The creator has a mastertape have one of the most interesting beats i've ever heard

I think Gavin's only been in the band since In Absentia, or at least that was the first album he recorded with them. But, I agree. Colin, the bassist, is amazing. His chops are really powerful and, though more subtle in the newer stuff, he really belts out some awesome lines. Richard's keyboards are absouletely mesmerizing and perfect, adding the perfect textures to all the songs. Without him, PT wouldn't be what they are. And, of course, Wilson is a master.

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]The drummers dynamics are absolutely mindblowing.. The creator has a mastertape have one of the most interesting beats i've ever heard[/QUOTE]
The Creator Has Mastertape is great. The lyrics, especially. And yeah, a really crazy beat, with some incredibly challenging fills.
He also uses odd time very well. The Sound of Muzak has a very interesting verse section in 7/4. Also, the heavy part in Blackest Eyes, in the time of 10, was a huge inspiration for a song I wrote with my band.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting].


I think you're actually better off just buying In Absentia. I think it's the perfect introduction to PT's very extensive and very diverse body of work.

I personally bought Deadwing first, which is also great, but for that album it's the individual tracks that really stand out, not the album as a whole. Deadwing, Arriving Somewhere (But Not Here), Halo, and The Start of Something Beautiful are the best on that album.[/QUOTE]
Thatd be easier, to jsut buy a record from em. Does it take a while to really get that album? like it does with lateralus?

The intro to blackest eyes is a pure stroke of genius..

One thing I dislike about Deadwing is that Steven wrote and played most of the basslines on the album.. And it shows, I miss Colin's distinctive fretless laidback sound..

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]The intro to blackest eyes is a pure stroke of genius..

One thing I dislike about Deadwing is that Steven wrote and played most of the basslines on the album.. And it shows, I miss Colin's distinctive fretless laidback sound..[/QUOTE]
I believe Steven writes most of the basslines anyway? I actually really like the bass on that album. It's more subtle than when Colin plays it, but there are still plenty of awesome lines that really enhance the songs.

[QUOTE=Mr Herb]Thatd be easier, to jsut buy a record from em. Does it take a while to really get that album? like it does with lateralus?[/QUOTE]
The first time I heard anything from that album were clips from iTunes, and at first, I wasn't to into it, but once I actually heard the album, I really enjoyed it immediately, but I think by the third listen, it had become a favorite.

Lateralus, I loved immediately. The only Tool that I didn't instantly, fully enjoy was the first album I heard from them, Aenima.

And has anyone watched the interview clips with Steve Wilson on the PT site? Some of them are really, really interesting. He explains his connection to the sound of Trains, the inspiration he takes from Opeth and Meshuggah, why he plays concerts barefoot, etc. Check it out, I'll post a link in a second.

He also said that the next album will be one of two things: really heavy, or much mellower. Time will tell, I guess.

I see. ill check it out!


The patient fu cking owns

Halo has one of the coolest bass lines ever. Right up there with Money. :p

And yes, Wilson writes and performs about half of the basslines. Not live, obviously, but nonetheless, if you look on the credits for [I]Deadwing[/I], it specifies which songs Steven and Colin played bass on.

I'm going to get a powertab for Mellotron Scratch. I've been wanting to learn it for quite some time. :-D

Moses- No.

Here's the link to the interview clips.
[url]http://www.porcupinetree.com/multimedia.music.cfm[/url]

And they're coming to NYC on October 1st. I'd love to see them live.

i loved undertow and lateralus.

Awesome, thanks for the link. I shall make my way over there and watch.

They better come to Houston this time. Hopefully there will be more dates to the tour than what they have confirmed already. I really would love to see them.

Wow, he completely slayed Korn :lol:

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]
And yes, Wilson writes and performs about half of the basslines. Not live, obviously, but nonetheless, if you look on the credits for [I]Deadwing[/I], it specifies which songs Steven and Colin played bass on.
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Yeah, but as I said, I'm pretty sure that's only on Deadwing.

Awesome, Steven Wilson and I share our favorite movie director, David Lynch.

I didn't know he played a fretless bass. :eek:

Man, I saw some jazz bands on vacation, and y'know, most of them play standup fretless basses. Some of those guys are flatout amazing. I mean, they can seriously shred on their bass.

Jazz> most

Also standup basses don't have frets.

I love watching jazz bassists. I saw a trio of piano, upright bass and drums recently, and I just love that kind of thing live.

ah man, Steven Wilsons seems like the coolest guy ever

Speaking of bassist, what do you guys think about mudvaynes bassist, his imprecive id say

[QUOTE=Kage]I love watching jazz bassists. I saw a trio of piano, upright bass and drums recently, and I just love that kind of thing live.[/QUOTE]
Jazz is so interesting to watch. There's a jazz improve group that plays at a club in the city where I live (same club where I saw Team Sleep in early July). By the end of the night, they're all trading off solos. Good stuff.

He's highly Ryknowned.....

pun

Jazz is basically about giving the soloist time to express what he feels in his soul at the time. My highschool is an arts school with tremendous talent and one of our jazz groups is touring around Europe right now.

Moses- I know, I just felt like pointing that out. :p

Kage- Yeah, it was quite the unique expirience for me, because around here, the only bands consist of maracas and sombreros. [size=1]Mariachi++[/size]

Knifeboy- I'd considering one of my favorite, if not my favorite all around genious musicians. :-D

Herb-Ryan Martinie is quite good for a nu metal bassist.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I didn't know he played a fretless bass. :eek:

Man, I saw some jazz bands on vacation, and y'know, most of them play standup fretless basses. Some of those guys are flatout amazing. I mean, they can seriously shred on their bass.[/QUOTE]

yea jazz bassists are amazing, at least the ones ive seen.

Anyone have some of the rare PT albums they'd like to share? I don't exactly have hundred+ dollars just laying around, and I can't find anything really on soulseek either.

Alot of nu-metal bassists are good Jake. Martinie, Sam Rivers, almost any nu-metal group has a hip-hop rhythm section which means the bassist and drummer are usually decent.

Jazz is basically about giving the soloist time to express what he feels in his soul at the time. My highschool is an arts school with tremendous talent and one of our jazz groups is touring around Europe right now.