heil

he's pretty good

my favorite is Angerfist tho

attention haz

i think you need some DAS ICH

[IMG]http://www.the-gothic-life.de/Das%20Ich.jpg[/IMG]

hey haz yeah i heard you like 80s industrial

[IMG]http://www.xtrax.de/gallery-of-fame/xtrax-das-ich-gallery/images/das-ich-02.jpg[/IMG]

yeah i've already heard of those dudes lol

a few recent releases i've gotten -

RJF - Greater Success In Apprehension & Convictions
The Neon Judgement - Mafu Cage
Missing Foundation - Missing Foundation
The Young Gods - The Young Gods

needs one more pic

[IMG]http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/5651/Das+Ich.jpg[/IMG]

do you think there's an ounce of irony behind this

eww

I dislike the image of that band enough to actually not want to check them out. I will eventually though.

[QUOTE=1338 h4x0r;17728634]heil

he's pretty good

my favorite is Angerfist tho[/QUOTE]

I like his more bouncy stuff especially Lost Generation and Elysium. His collabs with DMO rock too. Not toooo into his gabba work.

i don't like them specifically

they have at least two good songs, i've always liked this one

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlp59oPFAdc[/url]

BTW Laibach:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5pRLZkJdP8[/url]

Dees saaaaaaaaataaaaaaans neue kleider

I always loved that film clip :D

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17729111]i don't like them specifically

they have at least two good songs, i've always liked this one

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlp59oPFAdc[/url][/QUOTE]

is this Neue Deutsche Härte? I thought they were some EBM business

"Neue Deutsche Todeskunst" according to wiki

wtf is that, i'm learning a new obscure industrial subgenre every day

my current favourite is probably death industrial, all the PE bands i've heard described as this are awesome

a rough translation appears to be New German Death Art.

what does the one you mentioned mean?

atmospheric, dense, metallic, lots of drones and screaming vocals from what I gather, stuff like Genocide Organ, Sutcliffe Jügend and Brighter Death Now seem to get tagged with it.

most of it overlaps with other power electronics subgenres but idk, it sounds cool

its pretty easy to throw the word death in front of something and make a new sub genre

i should make a Pink and Yellow follow up band and call it Death Awkward Pop

deathkraut is a genre I would one day like to see

would be legendary

i vaguely remember there might have been a time when i was thinking about working on some sort of thing called Industrial Death Pop.

I remember you saying that as well

heiling some Monte Cazazza right now. do you also find [i]Tiny Tears[/i] one of the most irritating things ever?

I get it stuck in my head some times so apparently it's catchy

its pretty much just another Throbbing Gristle release

I find all the all the stuff at the end of the disc that are closer to conventional song structures to be annoying

some of the post-punk stuff I heard was pretty cool

I usually don't stick around that long though

yeah i usually just listen to the dumb sound collages that are like little kids crying with gunshots ringing out in the back ground

so [i]deviant[/i]

have you finished the Industrial Culture Handbook yet?

i've only read like two or three pages so far honestly, i have a hard time with books

ill probaby dig in soon tho

I read the whole thing in a week probably.

Not a lot of it really struck me as all that interesting back then (I didn't know any of these artists and didn't really listen to industrial music) but sometimes I pick it up and read it on the toilet :p

haz what the best new wave be?

idk what you've heard but I like the following -

Devo - Freedom of Choice
Talking Heads - Remain In Light
Strawberry Switchblade - Strawberry Switchblade
Orange Juice - Rip It Up
Grauzone - Eisbaer
Blondie - Blondie

i'm more into the post punk side of things, new wave seems to be an interchangeable term with it though. this is some of the happier, more upbeat stuff

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrQRokzaCgY[/url]

[B]the razor blades inside my soul
inside my soul[/B]

lol

[QUOTE=Meatplow;17729311]idk what you've heard but I like the following -

Devo - Freedom of Choice
Talking Heads - Remain In Light
Strawberry Switchblade - Strawberry Switchblade
Orange Juice - Rip It Up
Grauzone - Eisbaer
Blondie - Blondie

i'm more into the post punk side of things, new wave seems to be an interchangeable term with it though. this is some of the happier, more upbeat stuff[/QUOTE]

ive heard next to nothing. im lookin for darker (as much as the word can be applied to the genre) stuff, like the more atmospheric stuff with the air-y vocals. the only cd ive really got from the genre is josef k and its a little more upbeat than im looking for.

Remain in Light is gay, get the self-titled .

Theoretically it almost seems like it ceases to become new wave and becomes no wave or post-punk once there's a dark element, but I'm sure there are exceptions.

Try Suicide's debut, if you haven't.

idk i just want to hear some synthed out **** that isnt too fast paced or upbeat with the airy atmospheric almost monotone vocals. like, depeche mode maybe? dark wave i guess the music is called im looking for.

[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_b82K1cBLDgQ/SNCGQnI0bEI/AAAAAAAABGI/fQR0ynih8hE/s320/Suicide1977.jpg[/IMG]

there's enough monotony on this for two albums , if i recall correctly

ill check it out. but yeah i guess 'dark wave' is what im looking for.

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;17729589]idk i just want to hear some synthed out **** that isnt too fast paced or upbeat with the airy atmospheric almost monotone vocals. like, depeche mode maybe? dark wave i guess the music is called im looking for.[/QUOTE]

Chris & Cosey - Heartbeat

gloomy synthpop, can't remember any vocals though

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17729573]Remain in Light is gay[/QUOTE]

die in a house fire

i have more talking heads and david byrne material than you

you do

but [i]Remain In Light[/i] is ****ing awesome

it's a great record, i just don't see why every one thinks it's their crowning acheivement