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Dr. Jake Destructo 05-01-2007 10:45 AM

To bring good post rock?

Moses 05-01-2007 10:47 AM

Post rock is slowly becoming trendy and almost a cookie cutter genre. Liekk balck medal

Dr. Jake Destructo 05-01-2007 10:49 AM

Agreed.

But it's not like there aren't exceptions to the typical cliche's of the genre.

Moses 05-01-2007 10:49 AM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo;14634952]Agreed.

But it's not like there aren't exceptions to the typical cliche's of the genre.[/QUOTE]

definately

Kage 05-01-2007 12:11 PM

Obviously, but my revolution will uproot the perception of the genre from the ground up and we will rid MX of the generic shi[size=2]t[/size].

Phase 1 of my plan commences very soon.

BurningSky 05-01-2007 12:24 PM

So generic post-rock=all bands that sound like Explosions in the Sky but not Explosions themselves. They shouldn't be labeled generic just because a whole mess of bands copied their style and made it cliche...

Examples of nongeneric post-rock bands:

Godspeed
Sigur Ros
Explosions in the Sky
Mono
Russian Circles

These next bands are bands that I enjoy immensely, but recognize that they aren't doing much to push the genre in new directions:

65daysofstatic
Mogwai
Pelican
Do Make Say Think
Eluvium
Red Sparowes

Dr. Jake Destructo 05-01-2007 12:28 PM

Dude are you kidding me? Sigur Ros and EITS are like the formula for which most post-rock was created on, sure, but DMST and 65dos are definitely not generic.

DMST is just friggen tight.

Kage 05-01-2007 12:30 PM

65dos sucks ****. Do Make Say Think doesn't belong in the generic part. Neither does Pelican.

Like, at this point, I could never hear another of this current brand of post rock band except for Godspeed in my life and I'd be okay with that.

But like I said, things will all change.

Moses 05-01-2007 01:00 PM

I could hear post rock and jazz mixing together. I couldn't really see it being respected by hardcore jazz fans though.

AlienEater 05-01-2007 01:51 PM

Dude Mono and RC are very generic.

Slaapkamers 05-01-2007 01:51 PM

itt burningsky doesn't know what he's talking about

Moses 05-01-2007 01:57 PM

[QUOTE=AlienEater;14635712]Dude Mono and RC are very generic.[/QUOTE]

I like Mono.... They use orchestra string instruments. That's kinda original.

Slaapkamers 05-01-2007 01:57 PM

sigur ros and godspeed have both done that

and plenty of others too i bet

Kage 05-01-2007 02:01 PM

Seascapes of the Interior for example.

Moses 05-01-2007 02:08 PM

[QUOTE=Slaapkamers;14635739]sigur ros and godspeed have both done that

and plenty of others too i bet[/QUOTE]

Yeah but it's not as prominent from what I've heard. However I'm probably just full of **** because I'm not that much into post rock.

I dont think Pelican belongs in the generic side though. They have their own unique sound to me.

Kage 05-01-2007 02:17 PM

Mono is almost better [i]sans[/i] the strings. Their live performance is stripped down to just two guitars, bass, drums and it's crushingly emotional, dynamic, and amazing.

Slaapkamers 05-01-2007 02:18 PM

oh yeah and rachel's

bwnstl 05-01-2007 02:52 PM

[QUOTE=Kage;14635762]Seascapes of the Interior for example.[/QUOTE]

Good lord, their album is f'ing fantastic. I really wish they had made more material. "Moving" is one of the best post-rock songs I've ever heard.

I honestly think that although 65dos may be a little formulaic, they're at least pushing a boundary with their incorporation of electronic/glitchy sounds. I really like that and I can't really think of anything that sounds like them because of it.

I don't know if Mouth of the Architect is considered post-rock/metal, but they're ridiculously amazing. Anyone who likes Rosetta (and to a certain extent Kayo Dot, although I could be mistaken in that comparison) will most likely like them a lot.

We Followed Tigers definitely put their own unique spin on post-rock; easily one of my favorite bands currently.

Again, I don't know if Halifax Pier is post-rock, but they're really good too. They have their own folk/indie rock meshed in with post-rock.

Slaapkamers 05-01-2007 02:54 PM

world's end girlfriend do the electronic stuff and have been around longer

Kage 05-01-2007 02:55 PM

Seascapes of the Interior is indeed very good. I love Moving.

Mouth of the Architect is the band that originally made me discover post rock. It was many a year ago when I listened to The Worm and realized I had stumbled upon a whole new world.

Now I am disillusioned and cynical. :(

TojesDolan 05-01-2007 02:55 PM

Ghosts and Vodka looks good. I think.

New Red Sparowes is good. I think.

Then again, I have bad post rock tastes so.

bwnstl 05-01-2007 03:03 PM

[QUOTE=Slaapkamers;14636092]world's end girlfriend do the electronic stuff and have been around longer[/QUOTE]

Care to upload? Sounds interesting.


Kage: What'd you think of The Ties That Blind?

Nepenthe 05-01-2007 03:22 PM

Laura, Te, Pirate Ship Quintet, Gifts From Enola, If These Trees Could Talk, Blueneck, The Ascent Of Everest, Site Of Future Rome, and These Monsters are all excellent, relatively unknown bands everyone needs to hear. (Large namedrop to hopefully start some discussion)

And Del Rey, Windmills By The Ocean, Giant Squid, and Year Of No Light for the metal side of the spectrum.

Sleepy 05-01-2007 04:01 PM

Ghosts and Vodka is excellent Math stuff.

Ida is amazing slow/sadcore, if that's up for discussion in this thread.

EDIT: The Ascent of Everest, Pirate Ship Quintet and Giant Squid are all incredible, Nephenthe. I don't think I've heard any of the rest.

Kyle 05-01-2007 04:20 PM

Ghosts + Vodka is good, but nothing particuarly grabbing.

Been digging Pele's [I]Elephant[/I] recently, now that's some good math rock.

AlienEater 05-01-2007 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=bwnstl;14636159]Care to upload? Sounds interesting.


Kage: What'd you think of The Ties That Blind?[/QUOTE]

I'm not Kage, as you may have realised, but it's a pretty good album

Nepenthe 05-01-2007 04:44 PM

I love the horns on Pirate Ship Quintet's EP. Delightfully moody.

On a related side note, [url]http://epiccockpunching.ytmnd.com/[/url]

Perfectly displays their beauty.

Concubine 05-01-2007 08:43 PM

i love Windmills By The Ocean

Dr. Jake Destructo 05-01-2007 08:47 PM

[QUOTE=Moses;14635484]I could hear post rock and jazz mixing together. I couldn't really see it being respected by hardcore jazz fans though.[/QUOTE]

It's because jazz fans are narrow mind cockbags, no worries though.

Try Jaga Jazzist out. They're not really jazz or post rock, but they're heralded as both. They have quite a bit of fame in Scandinavia.

Kage 05-01-2007 08:49 PM

Cinematic Orchestra, guys.

Apocalypticon 05-01-2007 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan;14636101]New Red Sparowes is good. I think.[/QUOTE]

At the Soundless Dawn is alot better IMO.

Also listening to Rosetta the Galilean Satelites for the first time and I'm really liking it. Kinda reminds me of Isis at some points, but better overall.

Kage 05-01-2007 08:55 PM

Yeah I think Red Sparowes' first album is much better. When I saw them live, their new songs were a total snooze whereas the old ones were totally rawkin.

Rosetta >>>>> Isis

<3 them

Moses 05-01-2007 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo;14637020]It's because jazz fans are narrow mind cockbags, no worries though.

Try Jaga Jazzist out. They're not really jazz or post rock, but they're heralded as both. They have quite a bit of fame in Scandinavia.[/QUOTE]

They're ok. I've heard them.

Dr. Jake Destructo 05-01-2007 08:56 PM

Rosetta is probably the heaviest band I have ever witnessed.

But yes, much better than Isis either way.

ATM 05-01-2007 08:57 PM

I should check them out.

Kage 05-01-2007 08:58 PM

I have to admit I brought Rosetta to these forums.

No need to thank me, guys!

bucket 05-01-2007 08:58 PM

[QUOTE=Kage;14637035]Cinematic Orchestra, guys.[/QUOTE]

wins.

same label as Jaga Jazzist, and moderately similar to pre- What We Must Jaga Jazzist

Basically, totally awesome.

/doesn't consider them post-rock though

Dr. Jake Destructo 05-01-2007 08:59 PM

Yeah you'd probably like them Chris. They have similar writing styles to that of Giant Squid, where they stick with one idea for a long times, but the music is so good that it doesn't get repetitive.

Actually, GS gets repetitive, but not Rosetta.

ATM 05-01-2007 09:01 PM

GS do get repetitive but I like that one song they do so much. I can't remember the name.

edit: Versus the Siren

Apocalypticon 05-01-2007 09:01 PM

[QUOTE=Kage;14637073]Yeah I think Red Sparowes' first album is much better. When I saw them live, their new songs were a total snooze whereas the old ones were totally rawkin.

Rosetta >>>>> Isis

<3 them[/QUOTE]

Red Sparowes just seem like the kind of band that would be really really good live. Has anyone listened to any of their splits?


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