the ghost of tom joad is amazing and who was renegades of funk by originally?

What exactly happened at the MTV awards anyway? Its been awhile.

RATM lost the "best metal performance" award to Limp Bizkit and Zach climbed on this thing and started swinging on it like a madman.

[QUOTE=i_like_metal]What exactly happened at the MTV awards anyway? Its been awhile.[/QUOTE]

This is what I heard (I didn't watch it).

RAGE was up for an award, and didn't win (best rock video? Sleep now in the fire I think). Limp Bizkit (of all the bands...) ended up winning for some dumba$$ video/song.

Sooo... In 'protest?' of the decision Timmy climbed some of the scaffolding and started rockin back and forth and it got way out of hand and possibly dangerous.

Some people say that Zach got fed up with it, and that this is one of the breaking points of the band.

I thought it was Zach....

The Best Of
 

I decided to make a list of "THE BEST OF RATM..."

I'd like to see other people's lists. You can put 1+ if you are undecided/if the two are just superior.

[B]Bassline:[/B] Take The Power Back / Bombtrack
[B]Guitar Riff:[/B] Sleep Now in the Fire
[B]Vocals:[/B] Killing In the Name / Calm Like A Bomb
[B]Drums:[/B] Got me here. I'm not much a drummer.
[B]Songs:[/B]
3. Bulls on Parade
2. Township Rebellion
1. Know Your Enemy
[B]Covers:[/B]
2. Maggie's Farm
1. I'm Housin
[B]Guitar Solo:[/B] Take the Power Back
[B]Best Lyrics:[/B] Why stand on a silent platform? Fight the war, F*** the norm.
[B]Best Album:[/B] Battle of L.A.

Those are some starting categories. If anyone has any he/she could add, that would be awesome.

Good Idea

[B]Bassline:[/B] People Of The Sun
[B]Guitar Riff:[/B] Year Of Tha Boomerang
[B]Vocals:[/B] People Of The Sun
[B]Drums:[/B] Killing in the Name / Freedom (love the cowbells as you can see)
[B]Songs:[/B]
3. Mindset's A Threat (the solo is amazing)
2. Wind Below
1. Township Rebellion
[B]Covers:[/B]
2. Renegades Of Funk
1. Maggies Farm
[B]Guitar Solo:[/B] Township Rebellion
[B]Best Lyrics:[/B] If the vibe was suicide
then you would push the button
but if you're bowin' down
then let me do the cuttin'
[B]Best Album:[/B] Evil Empire

[QUOTE=i_like_metal]Good Idea

[B]Bassline:[/B] People Of The Sun
[B]Guitar Riff:[/B] Year Of Tha Boomerang
[B]Vocals:[/B] People Of The Sun
[B]Drums:[/B] Killing in the Name / Freedom (love the cowbells as you can see)
[B]Songs:[/B]
3. Mindset's A Threat (the solo is amazing)
2. Wind Below
1. Township Rebellion
[B]Covers:[/B]
2. Renegades Of Funk
1. Maggies Farm
[B]Guitar Solo:[/B] Township Rebellion
[B]Best Lyrics:[/B] There's a ditch full of bodies so check for the rent / I walk to the corner to the rubble that used to be a library, line up to the mind cemetary now.
[B]Best Album:[/B] Evil Empire[/QUOTE]

Good stuff. I haven't heard a few of the songs, namely Year of the Boomerang.

It's on Evil Empire.

I saw that happen on MTV, I wasn't sure who did it at the time. That was the highlight of the show. Award shows/MTV suck.

Bassline: Take The Power Back/Calm Like A Bomb.
Guitar Riff: Killing In The Name
Vocals: Killing In the Name/Settle For Nothing
Drums: People Of The Sun
Songs: KiTN, Bulls On Parade, Know Your Enemy, theres actually too many...
Covers:
Maggies Farm, Renegades Of Funk, The Ghost of Tom Joad
Guitar Solo: Settle For Nothing!!!/Take the Power Back/BoP Live!
Best Lyrics: There are lots of great lines, but if u want to hear a great line Live and have the hairs on ur body stand up..."**** You I Won't Do What Ya Tell Me!"
Best Album: Self-Titled!!

shish shish sha

rage rules

[B]Bassline:[/B] No Shelter
[B]Guitar:[/B] Bullet in The Head
[B]Drum:[/B] Vietnow
[B]Songs:[/B] Freedom, No Shelter, Darkness (if you must only pick 3)
[B]Covers:[/B] How I Could Just Kill a Man, Maggie's Farm, I'm Housin'
[B]Guitar Solo:[/B] Freedom
[B]Best Lyrics[/B]:
A mass of nameless at the oasis
That hides the graves beneath the master's hill
Are buried for drinking
The rivers water while
Shackled to the the line at the empty well
[B]Best Album:[/B] Rage Against the Machine

[QUOTE=Moses]I thought it was Zach....[/QUOTE]
:lol: No no, it was Tim Bob. Zack was competly pissed off at Timmy C. about doing this, and some say it was the "last straw" that pushed Zack over the edge.

Zac[U][B][SIZE=7]k[/SIZE][/B][/U], not Zac[B][U][SIZE=7]h[/SIZE][/U][/B]

[B]Bassline:[/B] Take the Power Back
[B]Guitar:[/B] No Shelter
[B]Drum:[/B] Vietnow
[B]Songs:[/B] Vietnow, Snakecharmer, Take the Power Back, Know Your Enemy, Guerilla Radio, Ashes in the Fall, Township Rebellion
[B]Covers:[/B] The Ghost of Tom Joad, Street Fighting Man, Renegades of Funk
[B]Guitar Solo:[/B] Freedom, Bullet in the Head
[B]Best Lyrics: [/B] What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that its your enemy!
[B]Best Album:[/B] Battle of Los Angeles

[b]Bassline:[/b] Killing in the Name
[b]Guitar:[/b] Born Of A Broken Man
[b]Drum:[/b] Killing in the Name
[b]Songs:[/b] Renegades of Funk, Year of the Boomerang, Down Rodeo, Sleep Now In The Fire
[b]Covers:[/b] Maggie's Farm, Kick Out The Jams, How I Could Just Kill A Man
[b]Lyric:[/b] Can't waste a day when the night brings a hearse/So make a move and plead the fifth 'cause ya can't plead the first
[b]Guitar Solo:[/b] Take the Power Back
[b]Best Album:[/b] Battle of Los Angeles.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]:lol: No no, it was Tim Bob. Zack was competly pissed off at Timmy C. about doing this, and some say it was the "last straw" that pushed Zack over the edge.[/QUOTE]
I don't really understand why he would get pissed at that. If I would lose to Limp Bizkit I would also do something like that to.

If Zack ever releases his solo album that would be interesting. It reckons to be unlikely though. He seems to be playing with an Mexican music band at the moment.

[QUOTE=Dread_rocker]If Zack ever releases his solo album that would be interesting. It reckons to be unlikely though. He seems to be playing with an Mexican music band at the moment.[/QUOTE]

I've downloaded some of his solo stuff. One thing was called 'Land of Liberty' which was more of a poem. His other stuff is ok.

I don't get how people can think that Audioslave is better than Rage. And believe me, there are those people. My mom heard a new Audioslave single yesterday and agreed that it sounds like every other band played on the radio.

No one sounded/sounds/will sound like Rage. The anger and rapping, the hardcore basslines, Tom's insane technicalities, and Brad's well, Brad was the drummer.

[QUOTE=ECream]...and Brad's well, Brad was the drummer.[/QUOTE]
Oh man! I could have sworn he was the keyboard player.

Well Brad had great timing live so I guess they all had something.

Bassline: Clam Like a Bomb
Guitar Riff: Bombtrack
Vocals: Bullet in the Head
Drums: Vietnow
Songs:
3. Wake Up
2. Killing in the Name
1. Guriella Radio
Covers:
2. Microphone Feind
1. In My Eyes
Guitar Solo: Know Your Enemy
Best Lyrics: Just victims of the in house drive by. You say jump the say how high.
Best Album: Self Titled

just off the top of my head.

[QUOTE=i_like_metal]Oh man! I could have sworn he was the keyboard player.

Well Brad had great timing live so I guess they all had something.[/QUOTE]

plus he had some good beats, and his style gave it a more rap/funk feel.

[QUOTE=i_like_metal]I don't really understand why he would get pissed at that. If I would lose to Limp Bizkit I would also do something like that to.[/QUOTE]

I think it was because he thought people might view it as some kind of publicity stunt.

This page makes me realise how little anybody cares about drums.

Bassline: killing in the name
Guitar Riff:Testify
Vocals: people of the sun
Drums: darkness
Songs:
3. Bulls on Parade
2. Testify
1. killing in the name
Guitar Solo: testify
Best Lyrics: the riot be the rhyme of the unheard
Best Album: evil empire

[QUOTE]I've downloaded some of his solo stuff. One thing was called 'Land of Liberty' which was more of a poem. His other stuff is ok.[/QUOTE]

That poem was in one of the Rage DVDs...

I think brad is really good at drums. I doubt Rage would sound as good with a regular rock drummer.

[QUOTE=i_like_metal]Oh man! I could have sworn he was the keyboard player.

Well Brad had great timing live so I guess they all had something.[/QUOTE]


I said that to mean that he does nothing special, but does everything just fine. So he is what he is.

[QUOTE=ECream]I said that to mean that he does nothing special, but does everything just fine. So he is what he is.[/QUOTE]

Sorry coming off the way it did. I know NOTHING about drums/drumming, so that is why I am ignorant to the topic. Sorry.

Bassline:Roll Right, Bulls on Parade
Guitar Riff:Born of a Broken Man, Bullet in the Head
Vocals:People of the Sun, Killing in the Name of
Drums:Killing in the Name of, Vietnow
Songs:
3)Calm like a Bomb
2)Wind Below
1)Bulls on Parade
Covers:
2)How I Could Just Kill a Man
1)The Ghost of Tom Joad
Gutiar Solo:Take the Power Back
Best Lyrics:I be walkin' God like dog
Best Album:Evil Empire

[QUOTE=frmautumTOashes]plus he had some good beats, and his style gave it a more rap/funk feel.[/QUOTE]
He definatly made EE what it is. I really love the hip-hop style of that album.
[QUOTE=ECream]Sorry coming off the way it did. I know NOTHING about drums/drumming, so that is why I am ignorant to the topic. Sorry.[/QUOTE]
I'm a guitarist but I know about a good drum sound. I guess thats why I want to be a producer. Maybe. :D

Yeah EE was good for drums. His best is on the new Audioslave though.

Brad Wilk is very underrated in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Bass_ment]Brad Wilk is very underrated in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

+1 man. He's one of my favorite drummers.

My favorite album is hard to pick. I like them all, but Renegades is not awesome, but it's still good.

Timmy C, bring that bass in.


How many people have the CD [I]Live & Rare[/I]? I've got it and it's awesome.

Two years ago I would have killed for [i]Live & Rare[/i]. I don't know whether I would spend that much on it now. If the price was right, then I would certainly buy it.

^^^
I agree. I think I would like to complete the RATM catalouge, including the singles one day, because they're my favorite band but I've got all the big ones so I'm fine with that.

Doesn't live and rare have a bonus disc with Darkness on it? If so than I have almost bought it just for that track which is one of my favorite RATM tracks ever.

Yes, Darkness is part of Live & Rare. I love the solo on that song.

Live & Rare rules, 'specially Clear The Lane.

So, what happened with the cover songs?