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TojesDolan 07-05-2007 06:03 PM

I'm just trying to make mr. SilentScream here realize there's no need to go iffy about spam because I don't care about it, otherwise I'd have set the banhammer reign of terror and lols.

EDIT: I laugh at antisemitism because thinking of races is just idiotic. I mean...

I'm mexican and I don't care about all the crap I get!

Invicta_Veritas 07-05-2007 06:07 PM

[quote=TojesDolan;14933012]
EDIT: I laugh at antisemitism because thinking of races is just idiotic. I mean...

I'm mexican and I don't care about all the crap I get![/quote]

But still, some of us don't find it that funny, and are honestly offended when certain people get seriously blatant with it. And that doesn't mean you should let it slide.


I'm Jewish, and I [I]do[/I] care about the sh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t I get.

Kage 07-05-2007 06:09 PM

Yeah well some people may be offended by all our talk of drunkeness and shi[size=2]t[/size]. You put up with the **** you don't like unless you want this place to become some kind of sterile politcally correct boring zone.

Invicta_Veritas 07-05-2007 06:10 PM

There's a certain line though that shouldn't be crossed. It may be fuzzy, but the general area is clear. You just don't demean somebody's faith or ethnicity.

TojesDolan 07-05-2007 06:11 PM

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;14933039]Well, excuse me; I think I was just used to mods actually following what their "rules" suggest.[/QUOTE]
Which rules are those, again?

Maybe, just maybe, I should stick to the "THE MOD IS ALWAYS RIGHT" rule, and fu‪cking practice the good ol' perma-ban for questioning my authority and ban-on-sight routine. That'd be nice. :)

BRA: Yeah well, I understand. I will try to make people not go to that touchy subject for you, but I can only try to be quite honest.

TojesDolan 07-05-2007 06:12 PM

SilentScream, the first thing you need to do here to get modded is sh‪utting the fu‪ck up, and posting normally and it will come to you, don't just like, pop the question to see if you get nominated.

TojesDolan 07-05-2007 06:14 PM

Yeah, me too.

Anyway, I don't even know why we're arguing here. :confused:

3074326 07-05-2007 06:15 PM

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I don't know how there's a debate about the use of forms of racism and prejudice. This place doesn't have to be politically correct, but we don't need racism and prejudice.

Being offended by the discussion of alcohol is much different than a form of racism.

Now to read the last page and see how the debate started. :p

Invicta_Veritas 07-05-2007 06:18 PM

I knew I wasn't completely retarded when I brought it up...

Deathcrush II 07-05-2007 06:19 PM

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14933049]But still, some of us don't find it that funny, and are honestly offended when certain people get seriously blatant with it. And that doesn't mean you should let it slide.


I'm Jewish, and I [I]do[/I] care about the sh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t I get.[/QUOTE]

Maybe not having an inverted pentagram as your previous avatar might have helped your case about "offending people". The "I'm Jewish" card is worthless; throw it away, you f[SIZE="2"]u[/SIZE]cking pr[SIZE="2"]i[/SIZE]ck.

Lunch 07-05-2007 06:20 PM

Austin: Do you want Bartender to start kickin' *** and taking names, and enforce the rules like he used to?

Invicta_Veritas 07-05-2007 06:21 PM

Pentacle, not pentagram. It has a circle around it. And it has nothing to do with anything whatsoever. It symbolizes the 5 elements, and also symbolizes the 5 books of the Torah to Paganic Jews.

BoboTheRagingHobo 07-05-2007 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14933074]There's a certain line though that shouldn't be crossed. It may be fuzzy, but the general area is clear. You just don't demean somebody's faith or ethnicity.[/QUOTE]


Will you cry more please you god da[SIZE="2"]mn liberal pus[/SIZE]sy.

Jesus Christ, this generation of people are all so annoying since they have to bark at any thing that will remotely "offend" anyone.

If you don't like it, then don't be on the internet since there is so much hate and hostility on it and you and your family oriented crusade will fail in this enviroment and will only cause people to rag on your more.

And also if you are not into bashing peoples faiths and such things, then why in the hell are you listening to death/black any form of metal for that matter?

It is very anti-christian and anti-jewish and such.

Also there has been and still is alot of christian bashing, but no one seems to complain about it. You can't have it both ways...

Deathcrush II 07-05-2007 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14933148]Pentacle, not pentagram. It has a circle around it. And it has nothing to do with anything whatsoever. It symbolizes the 5 elements, and also symbolizes the 5 books of the Torah to Paganic Jews.[/QUOTE]

That really, really offends me.

Invicta_Veritas 07-05-2007 06:23 PM

[quote=Deathcrush II;14933155]That really, really offends me.[/quote]

What, that you can't even get the term right? F[SIZE=2]u[/Size]ck you.

TojesDolan 07-05-2007 06:24 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch;14933137]Austin: Do you want Bartender to start kickin' *** and taking names, and enforce the rules like he used to?[/QUOTE]
I can do it too. Chris can do it too.

Damn, any mod mod who spends a minute here could reinforce rules as if they were tattooed in our butts.

But I don't do it because I like the forum the way it is. It keeps everything multi-cultural and of course, takes of the stigma of "METAL HEADS ONLY DISCUSS WHO LIKES THE GRIMEST MOST UNKNOWN METAL EVER GUR GUR".

Deathcrush II 07-05-2007 06:24 PM

[SIZE="7"]Black metal fans using the word "Jew" in a derogatory manner tends to have nothing to do with racism, get it into your f[SIZE="7"]u[/SIZE]cking skulls already![/SIZE]

Invicta_Veritas 07-05-2007 06:26 PM

[quote=BoboTheRagingHobo;14933150]Will you cry more please you god da[SIZE=2]mn liberal pus[/SIZE]sy.

..[/quote]

I'm probably more conservative than you are.

Being anti-racist isn't liberal..there's a [I]HUGE[/I] difference.


Besides, calling anybody a liberal is an insult from hell.

3074326 07-05-2007 06:26 PM

After reading...

This argument is exactly why racism shouldn't be allowed. I find it very odd that some seemed to be defending the use of forms of racism on the forums. Why? This is a forum dedicated to discussing Rock & Metal - there should be no reason for racism. You guys and gals are all far too intelligent for this to even be a concern.

This stuff only causes problems. Just don't do it. If you're doing it to get attention, you'll probably get banned for something else anyways.

Invicta_Veritas 07-05-2007 06:27 PM

[quote=Deathcrush II;14933170][SIZE=7]Black metal fans using the word "Jew" in a derogatory manner tends to have nothing to do with racism, get it into your f[SIZE=7]u[/SIZE]cking skulls already![/SIZE][/quote]

What if the Black metal fan is a Jew? Huh? What then?

Deathcrush II 07-05-2007 06:27 PM

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14933164]What, that you can't even get the term right? F[SIZE=2]u[/Size]ck you.[/QUOTE]

pen·ta·cle (pěn'tə-kəl)
n. A five-pointed star, often held to have magical or mystical significance, formed by five straight lines connecting the vertices of a pentagon and enclosing another pentagon in the completed figure. Also called pentagram.

Seriously stop trying to be correct about anything.

TojesDolan 07-05-2007 06:27 PM

OK then, a real moderator has spoken.

One racist comment and you're perma-banned.

Except with mexican jokes, because I am mexican and I allow them.

Lunch 07-05-2007 06:27 PM

[QUOTE=TojesDolan;14933168]I can do it too. Chris can do it too.

Damn, any mod mod who spends a minute here could reinforce rules as if they were tattooed in our butts.

But I don't do it because I like the forum the way it is. It keeps everything multi-cultural and of course, takes of the stigma of "METAL HEADS ONLY DISCUSS WHO LIKES THE GRIMEST MOST UNKNOWN METAL EVER GUR GUR".[/QUOTE]

I'm not question your mod powers, Toehaze. I'm just saying Tender has modding here forever and has always been there to enforce the rules as he sees fit (and done a great job), where as you are a relatively new addition.

Deathcrush II 07-05-2007 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=3074326;14933182]After reading...

This argument is exactly why racism shouldn't be allowed. I find it very odd that some seemed to be defending the use of forms of racism on the forums. Why? This is a forum dedicated to discussing Rock & Metal - there should be no reason for racism. You guys and gals are all far too intelligent for this to even be a concern.

This stuff only causes problems. Just don't do it. If you're doing it to get attention, you'll probably get banned for something else anyways.[/QUOTE]

I agree that racism should be frowned upon on a forum like this, but I'd also like to point out that I have never been racist since my return.

For reference to my definition on the word "Jew", see a few pages back...

Invicta_Veritas 07-05-2007 06:29 PM

[quote=Deathcrush II;14933189]pen·ta·cle (pěn'tə-kəl)
n. A five-pointed star, often held to have magical or mystical significance, formed by five straight lines connecting the vertices of a pentagon and enclosing another pentagon in the completed figure. Also called pentagram.

Seriously stop trying to be correct about anything.[/quote]

You can find any number of different definitions in any number of dictionaries. I once thought as you and some dolt pointed me to a different definition. It's pointless to argue over it anymore because everyone thinks they know what they're talking about and the definitions vary all across the internet and beyond. I'm done.

The definition I was referred to years ago stated the Pentagram was the star itself, a pentacle was enclosed. But Whatever.

BoboTheRagingHobo 07-05-2007 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14933181]I'm probably more conservative than you are.

Being anti-racist isn't liberal..there's a [I]HUGE[/I] difference.


Besides, calling anybody a liberal is an insult from hell.[/QUOTE]


I am not a conservative you idiot.

I hate the democratic/conservative/liberal/etc etc parties and I only reside my views in what I believe is right, not what a party of old farts think.

And being anti-racist is quite liberal, since liberals and such liberal groups like the ACLU are the ones that complain the most about it.

And also if you are a Jew listening to black metal, then obviously you have no idea what black metal is.

3074326 07-05-2007 06:30 PM

[QUOTE=Deathcrush II;14933170]Black metal fans using the word "Jew" in a derogatory manner tends to have nothing to do with racism, get it into your skulls already![/QUOTE]

How can the word "Jew" be used in a derogatory manner, yet not be involved with racism?

Give me an example so I understand what you're trying to say.

TojesDolan 07-05-2007 06:30 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch;14933197]I'm not question your mod powers, Toehaze. I'm just saying Tender has modding here forever and has always been there to enforce the rules as he sees fit (and done a great job), where as you are a relatively new addition.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I know. I didn't consider it "questioning" my moderating abilities.

I prefer to listen to the users, and do what they feel is better for conversation in general, that's all. If people like to say a joke or two about jews, or chinese, or americans, or belgianese people it's OK, because it's almost like "I accept who you are you filthy minority", and that's what made this forum nicer up to now.

But if you guys think it's mean and wrong, then fine. It's mean and wrong. I don't like to set my standards on things, I prefer users to set their own liners and be mature about things. If you can't be mature at all, go to the Pit. Whatever.

Deathcrush II 07-05-2007 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14933206]You can find any number of different definitions in any number of dictionaries. I once thought as you and some dolt pointed me to a different definition. It's pointless to argue over it anymore because everyone thinks they know what they're talking about and the definitions vary all across the internet and beyond. I'm done.[/QUOTE]

No. Seriously, you're seriously stupid. Seriously.

I called your previous avatar a pentagram, and it was a pentagram. It was also a pentacle. Whatever attatchment to it, whatever meaning that particular symbol had is irrelevent.

Invicta_Veritas 07-05-2007 06:32 PM

Bobo:

Doesn't justify calling me liberal. I'm actually extremely conservative.

Besides the point, it's not whining (or liberal) to say that it's wrong to have blatant disregard for human being based on faith or skin color shoved in your face.

It's not that difficult of a f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking concept.

BoboTheRagingHobo 07-05-2007 06:34 PM

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14933230]Bobo:

Doesn't justify calling me liberal. I'm actually extremely conservative.

Besides the point, it's not whining to say that it's wrong to have blatant disregard for human being based on faith or skin color shoved in your face.

It's not that difficult of a f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]cking concept.[/QUOTE]


God, it is hard to carry on an arguement with a mentally challenged person.

You are such a fu[SIZE="2"]cking hypocrite it is not even funny.[/SIZE]

Kage 07-05-2007 06:35 PM

The fuc[size=2]k[/size]ing point is that you shouldn't let it get to you god damn it.

And consider the fuc[size=2]king[/size] source. The people who are being racist are the biggest idiots on the forum.

Are you that fuc[size=2]king[/size] insecure?

Invicta_Veritas 07-05-2007 06:36 PM

How am I a hypocrite? Please do explain.

Kage: No, I happen to stand up for what I believe is right, and I'm not going to let it go. I have no tolerance for racism. NONE.

Deathcrush II 07-05-2007 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=3074326;14933213]How can the word "Jew" be used in a derogatory manner, yet not be involved with racism?

Give me an example so I understand what you're trying to say.[/QUOTE]

Well, would you call me racist using the word "Christian" in a derogatory manner?

Hint: I'm speaking in terms of relgious belief, not "race" as many American Jews like to cling on to.

Since any religion flies into the face of any other religion, any promotion of religious belief should be frowned upon here, if I am to be frowned upon for showing my opposition towards Jews and Christians.

This said, every statement I make relative to this subject is intended to be taken lightheartedly.

TojesDolan 07-05-2007 06:37 PM

OK guys, I think everything is settled.

BRA doesn't want racism. Check. No more racist comments on R&M, ever. I'm watching, remember. Oh yeah except on mexicans because I allow it.

3074326 07-05-2007 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=Deathcrush II;14933205]I agree that racism should be frowned upon on a forum like this, but I'd also like to point out that I have never been racist since my return.

For reference to my definition on the word "Jew", see a few pages back...[/QUOTE]

I'm not talking to anyone in particular, I hope I didn't sound that way. I'm just saying that racism on a public forum of this size is something that shouldn't be tolerated if we want the forums to develop further and develop harmoniously.

I'll check for the "Jew" reference.

Kage 07-05-2007 06:38 PM

It doesn't matter. It has no effect on you unless you let it.

BoboTheRagingHobo 07-05-2007 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=Kage;14933248]The fuc[size=2]k[/size]ing point is that you shouldn't let it get to you god damn it.

And consider the fuc[size=2]king[/size] source. The people who are being racist are the biggest idiots on the forum.

Are you that fuc[size=2]king[/size] insecure?[/QUOTE]



Holy crap, finally someone besides Deathcrush that isn't a moron on this subject!

BRA : You are a hypocrite in the sense that you preach thoughts of anti-racism/faith yet you listen to music that is heavily based around the hatred of faiths and races.

Deathcrush II 07-05-2007 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=3074326;14933266]I'm not talking to anyone in particular, I hope I didn't sound that way. I'm just saying that racism on a public forum of this size is something that shouldn't be tolerated if we want the forums to develop further and develop harmoniously.

I'll check for the "Jew" reference.[/QUOTE]

No need to check, I pretty much explained it in my previous post.

I really wish "Jews" would stop clinging onto their meaningless label in order to gain the upper hand in any debate regarding "discrimination". It's pathetic.

I'll just simplify; Judeo-Christianity, I do not like you.

TojesDolan 07-05-2007 06:40 PM

Guys, I think everything is settled!

Don't make me mad because then we'll be on something you may not be able to control or respect!

Or like

fu‪ck it, kill each other.


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