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Shadius 05-27-2006 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=Thresher]Beneath the Mire is EASILY the best track on GR , the solo is just so incredible.
For Still life .. i have to go with White Cluster

BWP is the worst album in my opinion :([/QUOTE]

What the...

You have/have heard all their albums and think it's their worst? That's so weird. lol

Seriously, Deliverance is better? Orchid is better? MAYH is better? Usually someone would find one of those albums worse for whatever reason.

Thresher 05-27-2006 03:38 PM

lol MAYH is like .. probably the best album with Still life. BWP just seems to be missing something ... you Get more out of the other albums, i think. Bwp is probably the Most "pop" album .. but MAYH is definately the Most disharmonic Stuff they did , just love it so much . April Ethereral = Rape

**edit** : i own all they're albums

JamJar 05-27-2006 03:40 PM

I agree that SL and MAYH are the best, but BWP closely follows behind. The main problem with the album IMO is The Funeral Portrait. That is my least favourite Opeth song along with Wreath, it really disrupts the album for me.

Thresher 05-27-2006 03:41 PM

BWP is a powerful album nonetheless .. tracks like : the leper affinity and the drapery fall will like .. murder you in the night . but Still , SOMETHING is missing

Shadius 05-27-2006 03:43 PM

I can't believe you like Deliverance more, you weirdo. There's clearly more than just something missing from that album.

Anyway, Damnation is clearly their "pop" album.

:p

Thresher 05-27-2006 03:43 PM

BWP has "pop" guitar riffs. I think that's the main problem ..
They tried to go a lil more "basic" with the BWP album..
Basic is not opeth :P

Thresher 05-27-2006 03:45 PM

lol then damnation is probably the Most Evil POP there is , ahaha
In my time of need and Death Whispers a lullaby are like .. evil sex.

Thresher 05-27-2006 03:47 PM

Btw how can you have green day in your list of favourite bands :(

Shadius 05-27-2006 03:49 PM

I used to love Green Day when I was a kid, and my girlfriend makes me listen to them still. (:

I went to go see them last year, they put on a good show. Fun poppy music.

Anyway, back to the point! There's no pop riffs on BP! But I can see what you mean by some riffs being more basic than on previous releases, having said that, I'd say Deliverance and Ghost Reveries have even more basic riffs.

Thresher 05-27-2006 04:04 PM

:(!

BurningSky 05-27-2006 04:16 PM

[QUOTE=Thresher]BWP has "pop" guitar riffs. I think that's the main problem ..
They tried to go a lil more "basic" with the BWP album..
Basic is not opeth :P[/QUOTE]

The Leper Affinity=basic:confused: :confused: :confused:

Thresher 05-27-2006 04:23 PM

i don't mean all the tracks .. but in whole the album is based on a more steady kinda rythm. Leave TLA out if this .. a kickass track :D

Stoo 05-27-2006 04:32 PM

Uh, what the hell are you talkin about? Pop.

gmoneyguy 05-27-2006 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=Thresher]i don't mean all the tracks .. but in whole the album is based on a more steady kinda rythm. Leave TLA out if this .. a kickass track :D[/QUOTE]
I really question how much you know about theory.

Shattered_Future 05-27-2006 04:49 PM

Yea...dude, with all due respect, the tracks are anything but basic. Granted, they DO tend to follow the same tempo/time signature or whatever, but the riffing patterns change so much it's hard to call this album basic.

Oh, and BWP is my favorite album. So go die. :mad:

:p

As for vocals...I still think Mikael was at his peak on BWP. Now, that's not the fanboy talking, it's based on the progression of his voice. Maybe it was the production, or age, or whatever, but he sounds ungodly evil on it.

Darkness 05-27-2006 04:49 PM

Me to... theres more "pop" on GR. :confused:

Shattered_Future 05-27-2006 04:51 PM

Now, to be fair, nothing Opeth has put out could be considered "pop"...

Simpler, maybe, is a better word.

gmoneyguy 05-27-2006 04:51 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Yea...dude, with all due respect, the tracks are anything but basic. Granted, they DO tend to follow the same tempo/time signature or whatever, but the riffing patterns change so much it's hard to call this album basic.

Oh, and BWP is my favorite album. So go die. :mad:

:p

As for vocals...I still think Mikael was at his peak on BWP. Now, that's not the fanboy talking, it's based on the progression of his voice. Maybe it was the production, or age, or whatever, but he sounds ungodly evil on it.[/QUOTE]
I think his best growl are on Deliverance. Clean vocals I lean a little bit toward Damnation.

Shattered_Future 05-27-2006 04:51 PM

I really dislike his growls on Deliverance...they're still good, but they sound...hollow, almost.

gmoneyguy 05-27-2006 04:52 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I really dislike his growls on Deliverance...they're still good, but they sound...hollow, almost.[/QUOTE]
I like them because of how evil they are. I may be the only one who thinks his growls are really evil on Deliverance.

Darkness 05-27-2006 04:53 PM

Nope. I really like all his growls. Deliverance is no exception.

Shattered_Future 05-27-2006 04:53 PM

I still think they're more evil on BWP, though almost nothing compares to the first chorus of By The Pain I See In Others.

gmoneyguy 05-27-2006 04:54 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I still think they're more evil on BWP, [B]though almost nothing compares to the first chorus of By The Pain I See In Others.[/B][/QUOTE]
You got that right! :thumb: :chug:

Darkness 05-27-2006 04:55 PM

Yeah, with that double bass it sounds sick.

Shattered_Future 05-27-2006 04:56 PM

RIIIIISE TO SUBMISSIONNNNNN!

Goosebumps every time, man...

gmoneyguy 05-27-2006 04:56 PM

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Yeah, with that double bass it sounds sick.[/QUOTE]
I really like how they double tracked his growls too.

Thresher 05-27-2006 04:56 PM

[QUOTE]I really question how much you know about theory.[/QUOTE]

I have been writing music for 6 years .. i know what sounds appropriate :P

gmoneyguy 05-27-2006 04:57 PM

[QUOTE=Thresher]I have been writing music for 6 years .. i know what sounds appropriate :P[/QUOTE]That doesn't mean you know theory.

Thresher 05-27-2006 05:02 PM

well ... either way .. everyone has his opinion on everything. you really can't tell which Opeth is the ""best"" . Cause there is not best, every album has it's pro's and con's , nothing you can do about that . But I can tell you that Mik&Peter gave that Extra effort on MAYH and SL

gmoneyguy 05-27-2006 05:07 PM

[QUOTE=Thresher]well ... either way .. everyone has his opinion on everything. you really can't tell which Opeth is the ""best"" . Cause there is not best, every album has it's pro's and con's , nothing you can do about that . But I can tell you that Mik&Peter gave that Extra effort on MAYH and SL[/QUOTE]
But you can prove what is basic and whats not, and you are wrong.

Thresher 05-27-2006 05:09 PM

but i still think they're third observation is the sh*t :D

Thresher 05-27-2006 05:11 PM

[QUOTE]But you can prove what is basic and whats not, and you are wrong.[/QUOTE]

I'm not wrong .. you can't be 'wrong' when it comes to writing music .
I just tend to go for the more Evil&Dark sounding stuff..

gmoneyguy 05-27-2006 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=Thresher]I'm not wrong .. you can't be 'wrong' when it comes to writing music .
I just tend to go for the more Evil&Dark sounding stuff..[/QUOTE]
I was talking about what how basic the BWP is.

Sleepy 05-27-2006 05:23 PM

[QUOTE=Diabolus in Musica]I was talking about what how basic the BWP is.[/QUOTE]

Basic does not equate to bad. This is coming from a Technical Death Metal whore, too. :rolleyes:

My personal favorite will remain Still Life for all eternity, though, I'm afraid. It's just beyond awesome.

FolkVikingFan 05-27-2006 05:40 PM

Blackwater Park is their best album. Hands down

BurningSky 05-27-2006 05:47 PM

I don't understand why there is so much hate on The Funeral Portrait. Dirge for November, sure, because it's a bit boring, but TFP is kickass. Some of the coolest riffs on the album...

Thresher 05-27-2006 05:48 PM

For accoustics , TFP is teh sh*t

FolkVikingFan 05-27-2006 05:49 PM

[QUOTE=BurningSky]I don't understand why there is so much hate on The Funeral Portrait. Dirge for November, sure, because it's a bit boring, but TFP is kickass. Some of the coolest riffs on the album...[/QUOTE]
cuz it sucks fool

Nazi Bastard 05-27-2006 05:57 PM

MAYH = The best. Orchid is right behind it.

FolkVikingFan 05-27-2006 05:58 PM

[QUOTE=Nazi Bastard]MAYH = The best. Orchid is right behind it.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. It's great.


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