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Ganondorf 06-29-2005 09:54 AM

[QUOTE=Kif]I have it off season 2, I don't have any season 1 on my computer. Why?[/QUOTE]


ah, cool, I've seen basically all of Season Two, apart from like the first episode......could you upload it on YSI if possible?

Kif 06-29-2005 10:01 AM

:eek: I can try, it's like 350MB though

Ganondorf 06-29-2005 10:02 AM

oh, thanks very much :D

IOU

No, but seriously, all the torrents I have tried have failed miserably.

xcbmetalcorex 06-29-2005 10:06 AM

I saw the video for "Holiday."

Angry Balled Fists! 06-29-2005 10:07 AM

What genre are Underoath everyone ?


YES, Roddick just won the 2nd set.

1-1

ChodaBoy 06-29-2005 10:07 AM

If thats the Green Day version, your a few months late

xcbmetalcorex 06-29-2005 10:09 AM

I don't get any music video channels.

Underoath is pop-punk.

Angry Balled Fists! 06-29-2005 10:10 AM

People say that, even though i can't see why

Ganondorf 06-29-2005 10:11 AM

Yeah, just say they are though, to keep everyone happy.

xcbmetalcorex 06-29-2005 10:11 AM

The catchy progressions and such. Just because it doesn't sound like Blink, doesn't mean it ain't pop punk. Look more at the guitar.

Angry Balled Fists! 06-29-2005 10:12 AM

Come on, you know that i don't think that if a band doesn't sound like Blink, they aren't pop-punk.

I can hear the pop-punk guitar parts, but it seems much too heavy for pop-punk...

xcbmetalcorex 06-29-2005 10:14 AM

I know you're smarter than that, I was just pointing out. :p

The screaming may make it sound heavy but the genre they are closest to is pop-punk. I use popcore, short for pop-punk with a small hardcore influence, to account for the screaming and heaviness but whatever.

Angry Balled Fists! 06-29-2005 10:16 AM

Well, ok, but on their myspace they put screamo, which i think could be therm ?

I know, i don't know a lot about hardcore, but to me, if Thrice are melodic hardcore then UnderOAth must definetley be some form of hardcore.

Angry Balled Fists! 06-29-2005 10:18 AM

I'm off for dinner, cya guys

Ganondorf 06-29-2005 10:19 AM

Didn't Underoath used to be like Black Metal or actual Hardcore or something until their latest album?

xcbmetalcorex 06-29-2005 10:23 AM

I disagree with Thrice being melodic hardcore. And Underoath are definitely not screamo.

[url=http://www.purevolume.com/terror]Terror[/url] are a hardcore band. Do you hear much of that in Underoath?

xcbmetalcorex 06-29-2005 10:24 AM

[QUOTE=Ganondorf II]Didn't Underoath used to be like Black Metal or actual Hardcore or something until their latest album?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they're early albums like [i]The Act Of Depression[/i] are black metal.

Ganondorf 06-29-2005 10:24 AM

I didn't say they were hardcore, I've only heard stuff of the newest album which I like, but is obviously very TBS esque.

I just heard around that their odler stuff was hardcore.

EDIT: oh, seen your post, sorted :D

Bad Blood 06-29-2005 10:39 AM

Sup

Dead Star 06-29-2005 10:53 AM

LIVE DAMMIT

/Revives thread...

Ganondorf 06-29-2005 10:53 AM

[QUOTE=Bad Blood]Sup[/QUOTE]
Sup fellow gangster. Get more people to join.

Dead Star 06-29-2005 10:54 AM

I'm confused with this whole Gangester business.

But my revival of the thread seemed to work.

Angry Balled Fists! 06-29-2005 10:58 AM

[QUOTE=xcbmetalcorex]I disagree with Thrice being melodic hardcore. And Underoath are definitely not screamo.

[url=http://www.purevolume.com/terror]Terror[/url] are a hardcore band. Do you hear much of that in Underoath?[/QUOTE]

Do you think there is a big difference between hardcore, like Terror and heavy metal

Angry Balled Fists! 06-29-2005 10:59 AM

I have The Changing of the times, is that one of their earlier pieces of work ?

TAND 06-29-2005 11:00 AM

Hardcore still has vocals that you can understand. Heavy Metal is basically all just screaming.

Hardcore has more breakdowns then Heavy Metal does.

Dead Star 06-29-2005 11:03 AM

Dan, when will the PPOTM finish?

xcbmetalcorex 06-29-2005 11:04 AM

Ohhhhhh, you're listening to [I]The Changing Of Times[/I]. That explains it. TCOT is a metalcore album, which is a combination of metal and hardcore. Converge is metalcore. Their newest album is what I was talking about with the pop-punk.

And to your other post, hardcore is faster, heavier punk. Heavy metal is metal. They're very different

Understanding In a Crash 06-29-2005 11:06 AM

[QUOTE=xcbmetalcorex]I don't get any music video channels.

Underoath is pop-punk.[/QUOTE]
WTF? How can you even compare UO with bands like Blink 182.

Underoath used to be Christian Melodic Hardcore...

Now they are more fitting to the same genres bands like FATA and Alexisonfire fit in.

It's basically a band that fit's the scene to make EMO/Pop-punk kids to look really rough and rugged now.

xcbmetalcorex 06-29-2005 11:08 AM

A) They were never hardcore.
B) Christian is not a genre
C) They went from black metal to metalcore
D) They're pop-punk, get over it.

Understanding In a Crash 06-29-2005 11:11 AM

Please humor me by telling me how they are pop-punk now..

xcbmetalcorex 06-29-2005 11:12 AM

I went over it on the last page.

Ganondorf 06-29-2005 11:14 AM

To the untrained ear they do sound kinda similar though. But yeah, UnderoAth are pretty average.

Bad Blood 06-29-2005 11:14 AM

[QUOTE=Ganondorf II]Sup fellow gangster. Get more people to join.[/QUOTE]
i got banned last time for doing so :p
but...
in the process of

Ganondorf 06-29-2005 11:16 AM

Quality. Who were you last time, Benbenben?

Understanding In a Crash 06-29-2005 11:18 AM

Sure they could have pop-punk influences but to reconcile bands like Greenday, Blink 182, The Offspring, etc. to Underoath in the same catergory is that a bit over the top?

Christian may not be a label but it's definitely an influence over music whether it's lyrically or musically.

Black metal... I don't see how that's even possible seeing how it seems like Venom and Underoath have barely any identicals at all. I don't think that UO is playing 32nd's over 16th's which is what Black metal usually seperates itself from Thrash with.

Bands that I've always known for being Black metal and sometimes the ancestors are bands like Cradle Of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, the Black Legions, Bathory, and Immortal Celius.

Angry Balled Fists! 06-29-2005 11:20 AM

[QUOTE=xcbmetalcorex]Ohhhhhh, you're listening to [I]The Changing Of Times[/I]. That explains it. TCOT is a metalcore album, which is a combination of metal and hardcore. Converge is metalcore. Their newest album is what I was talking about with the pop-punk.

And to your other post, hardcore is faster, heavier punk. Heavy metal is metal. They're very different[/QUOTE]

haha, yeah.

xcbmetalcorex 06-29-2005 11:21 AM

Do you have [I]The Act Of Depression[/I]? It's pretty da[B][I][/I][/B]mn close to black metal.

You want another genre? Popcore, pop-punk with a small hardcore influence. That accounts for the screaming and occasional heavy part.

Angry Balled Fists! 06-29-2005 11:22 AM

[QUOTE=J-Cool]Dan, when will the PPOTM finish?[/QUOTE]

Nominations will finish at the end of the month.

Dead Star 06-29-2005 11:23 AM

so, we have 2 days left.

Angry Balled Fists! 06-29-2005 11:24 AM

[QUOTE=xcbmetalcorex]Do you have [I]The Act Of Depression[/I]? It's pretty da[B][I][/I][/B]mn close to black metal.

You want another genre? Popcore, pop-punk with a small hardcore influence. That accounts for the screaming and occasional heavy part.[/QUOTE]

Me ?

Nah, only TCOT.

I quite like it actualy.

A Subtle Dagger is one of my favourite songs of all time and TIOS is one of my favourite albums ever too.


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